Card Mensches E31 "Cards that make us emotional"

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SPEAKER 3: Hi, I'm Danny Boy.

SPEAKER 4: And I'm John Newman. Welcome to Card Manches.

SPEAKER 4: What is up? Episode 31 of Card Mens? It's the alternate Friday of the month. You didn't see us last Friday. So we showed up this Friday.

SPEAKER 4: We'll do this B A man and hopefully we, we will tonight.

SPEAKER 4: We're gonna talk about sentimental cards tonight. Guys, cards that forget dollar signs. Although some of these probably will have a few dollar signs, attached to them, but throw that out cards that have some sort of sentimental meaning and value, to us. We're gonna share, some of those tonight. I, I wanna start off on a sad sentimental note.

SPEAKER 4: Carl Weathers died today, from, Rocky Fame, and other stuff, as well. And he just, he recently appeared in that commercial with Rob Gronkowski for the, million dollar kick as well. So, sad news on the, Hollywood fro front. But like of people don't realize this. Carl Weathers played for the Oakland Raiders for a couple of years back in the seventies. I love hearing that music. I don't know. Was that you?

SPEAKER 3: No, John got a new phone today guys and we're gonna make this part of.

SPEAKER 4: The show the other day.

SPEAKER 3: We're gonna take a time out as John learns to use it on tonight's episode.

SPEAKER 4: I just put it on, I just put it on silent but I know what's up, what's up? My phone is haunted. All right.

SPEAKER 3: I'm sorry, I cut you off.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I don't know what that was. I thought that was you. And then I, then you said it wasn't, then the, it will be out of, out of whack.

SPEAKER 3: So we're talking about cards that make us emotional.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, there might be some crying. I'm gonna try to hold back the tears but, you know, I can't promise you, anything. But no, I'm not, I'm not gonna cry tonight. At least I'm gonna try not to. Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: Well, Ruben, I appreciate the. Congratulations. I think I own the ticket I pay for when I go to the game. I think that's my portion of the team.

SPEAKER 4: So, what I mean, you, I don't know if you want to get right into it. Do you want to add anything? It's, it's already, I, I.

SPEAKER 3: Think it's important that we remember why we get cards. You know, why do we buy cards? Why do we collect cards? Why do we share Friday nights every other week? It's because we're attached to them somehow.

SPEAKER 4: So why? No, why, why are you, it says have another crown J Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: Good cop John's emotionally attached there.

SPEAKER 3: So we, I thought it would be fun for us to pull out some cards and show some stuff that for whatever reason we, we find, you know, funny or sentimental or we remember when we got it or whatever reason we like the card other than finances. Even if it's an expensive card. So that was, that was the theory.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I like it. I like it. I think people like seeing cards or hearing the stories, behind them and, you know, I, I So you know, I think I think it'll be enjoyable. This is definitely a visual.

SPEAKER 3: I gotta go home.

SPEAKER 3: He said no.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I got a feeling, I don't know, I don't know. We didn't share any, we really didn't share our cards. So I mean, we could probably guess some of our cards but we didn't, we didn't like beforehand share any. So you got the Coke and I got the crown like we need to like put a cheers.

SPEAKER 3: Oh, that's fantastic. Well, why don't you go first? Cause I know that you made, you picked a couple. And so I think you have like 100 and 75 there or something.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah. How long does everyone have tonight? There's no work tomorrow. So we'll be up to 3 a.m. doing this. All right, I'm gonna, and I actually put these in, in sort of an order. So there's some method to my madness. This first card without this card. I wouldn't probably be in the hobby, for 40 years.

SPEAKER 4: So let, let me just preface, that it's me on a PS A card. No, I'm just kidding. That's, that's not it. That's not it. That's a joke. Obviously. All right, this is the card for me that anyone that's followed me in, in, you know, social media wise knows 1979 tops, Reggie Jackson. Now, unfortunately, this is not the card, but it, it is the card that.

SPEAKER 4: It was the third or fourth card in the first pack I ever opened 1979 tops. On the, in the corner store packs were, the box was on the, the front counter where you check out and I saw my grandfather bought me a couple of packs of Brooklyn New York. 1979. This was the third and I'm not, I'm not a Reggie Jackson fan, but I, at the time I was a young Yankees fan.

SPEAKER 4: I was a Thurman Munson guy. He had already passed away. But but Reggie Jackson was the toaster of New York, Mr October. And so as a little kid, this was the guy, right? The the, you know, the man, the myth, the legend, even though I was a Thermo Munson guy and so pulling this card was what got me hooked and here we are in 2023 and I'm still doing this.

SPEAKER 4: So I bought, I obviously went and bought. This is not this the exact card, but I went and got this and, and, and, and it's, it's over there on the wall to remind me of where it all started, right? Yeah. Yeah, we all have an original.

SPEAKER 4: How did this all happen? And again, this is probably a $20 card, maybe less, but this is, this is what created the monster known as me ni.

SPEAKER 3: Nice subtle drop on the PS A card of you at the beginning. By the way.

SPEAKER 4: You know, I was gonna crack a joke sometime tonight. I just a bad joke out of the way early and then be done with it.

SPEAKER 3: Well, I'm picking one and before everybody freaks out, this is the Black Scribble version so I can show it on camera and we're still family friendly.

SPEAKER 3: The Bill Ripkin card, Bill R and E card growing up in Baltimore. I'm sorry at a if you're a boy of a certain age and it says that on the bottom of the bat, this card has your, your, your heart forever.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, I, I know I'm chalk on this guy. I, I I'm not predictable. I just genuinely love it.

SPEAKER 3: Love what you collect. I'm not gonna waste a lot of time on, on a card that everybody knows so well. But for me, I will always own versions of this card. Always have, always will. So for Bill Ripken and his fa EOR card, that's definitely one that's sentimental and emotional for me because it makes me laugh and, and it makes me sentimental. You're muted.

SPEAKER 4: One comment. Yeah, I get that. I get that card, Danny. You know, for, for, you know, what were you like 1213 when that card came out I was 17. So maybe even younger but you know Baltimore, one comment from Mookie who says Munson was no fan of Reggie. I don't think you are. Exactly right. Mookie, Munson and Reggie did not. I get along mostly from what I remember.

SPEAKER 4: Due to Munson always felt like Reggie was an eye guy rather than a team guy and then the contract hold out. And so, Munson being team captain, was not a huge fan of of Reggie. But as a New York City kid even being a Munson fan, Reggie Jackson, you know, October, right?

SPEAKER 4: That getting that card is what was the catalyst for me kind of staying in the hobby and wanting more cards and, and that sort of thing. And at that point, I didn't have any Thurman Munson cards. He had passed away and so Reggie was the, the guy being a young Yankees kid. So, let's get this next one. I'm not gonna spend a ton of time on it. I think everyone knows where I'm going, with the second one.

SPEAKER 4: You're wearing him on, on your shirt. I'm wearing just the city I'm from, but where he played, right? My grail card, the Jackie, rookie and, you know, e even as a kid, obviously Jackie died a month before, I was born. My dad got to see him play and met him, being a AAA young man, going to Evans Field all the time.

SPEAKER 4: I got all the stories and then I started to learn about the man, he was, and then not just the player but the man off the field as well. And I became, you know, a Jackie kid. And then as I, I got more into the hobby and older, that's when I started, you know, obtaining, a few of his cards.

SPEAKER 4: And, never, you know, until a couple of years ago I'D never had this card. And this is the gray and, and so I, I had to, you know, anytime we do something like this, it's probably gonna be included. I you know, I'll apologize in advance but it just, it just means that much to me. So we're talking about sentimental. And so there you go.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, it's just like a chalk with me on the Ripkin guys. You know, we're being honest, we, we could make up other stories but you know, this is really what we like.

SPEAKER 3: I wanna bring up a card that I have the pole.

SPEAKER 4: It's called not being prepared when you have to like minor, right?

SPEAKER 4: You can never work at Amazon. You took too long to fulfill that order.

SPEAKER 3: John, you know, you know how long I wanted this card and I searched for it.

SPEAKER 4: So we know a story that was sad for you one year and then happy it had a happy ending, but we're not gonna talk about you buying the other one out from under me.

SPEAKER 3: But II I think this one's got, got a fantastic eye appeal. I'm thrilled with it.

SPEAKER 3: I love the card, love the player part of the player run.

SPEAKER 3: It means it means a lot to me on a lot of different levels that, that I'll not get, not get onto, but some of them are close to my heart. A lot of grandparents have quoted quoted Sandy Kofax to me growing up. Like his word was just as good as any rabbi's were.

SPEAKER 3: If, if it was good enough for Sandy, it was good enough for my grandparents. So, he, he's known to be a mention Mensches. The man still, still around at his age and, you know, still, still could probably pitch, pitch an inning out of the bullpen.

SPEAKER 3: Well, certainly for the Mets anyway. Maybe not the Dodgers anymore.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, we need pitchers. I, I would, I think they're gonna be calling him soon unless something else falls in, falls into place. So.

SPEAKER 3: Yep. Absolutely. Right. Mookie. Yeah, Warren.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, that, it's not in the rotation, but if you want to see it, if you look with my fingers, that's the stolen Cofax, right there. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER 3: And that's what the hobby is all about feeling it when you see the cards. Darn. Right. Darn. Right. Darn. Right. All right. Your turn, sir.

SPEAKER 4: All right. We're going off baseball. We, this is not a baseball card. And, so a lot of people know, I'm a Steelers guy. Even growing up in New York City, this.

SPEAKER 3: Show is gonna early tonight.

SPEAKER 4: You know, you know, five years old, I became a Steelers fan. I just did not like the Giants or the Jets. And it was this commercial, it was that Coke commercial and this guy who starred in it with a kid who was my age at the time even had a resemblance to me.

SPEAKER 4: And, you know, the, the, you know, the kid gives, this guy the Jer, the Coke, he throws his jersey to the kid and, you know, thanks mean Joe. And so it's my mean Joe Green, rookie card, right there.

SPEAKER 4: And, again, this is not necessarily about values probably a couple of 100 bucks if, if that, but it's me and Joe was, was my guy still is to this day, you know, and, you know, the Steelers one that had that nasty run of, of four Super Bowls, in the seventies, frankly, without that guy.

SPEAKER 4: And, you know, he'll always be my favorite Pittsburgh Steeler, to the end and don't matter who they get or, you know, what happens. There you go. Good segue.

SPEAKER 4: That's, that's what's, you know, you, you notice your trend, right? What started it all in different things. That was what started my Steeler fandom the you know, the, the Reggie started me in the hobby. And I think we, we need to remember sort of how we got here. I'm a, I'm a history guy and so for me that's a, a part of, of my fabric and my history. So, it's a card. I definitely love.

SPEAKER 3: Do you, do you wanna see if you can pull out? Five P?

SPEAKER 4: Yeah. I mean, Joe, you know, Ben Roethlisberger is gonna be in there probably number five.

SPEAKER 4: You know, I gotta go Rocky Blier.

SPEAKER 4: So there's three and, you know, II I don't go back really. But before that because, you know, I, I just go from when I started to be a fan. So I know it's cliche, but I'll go with, Swan and Stallworth, as well.

SPEAKER 4: Jerome Bett, maybe I knock Roethlisberger out and, and I know he wasn't drafted by the Steelers, but he was just a, a lovable great player. So I'll go, I'll kick Roethlisberger out. I'll go Bettis Bly Star War Swan and, and mean Joe II, I.

SPEAKER 3: Didn't hear anything. He said after, after Pittsburgh Steelers.

SPEAKER 4: Heinz Heinz Heinz Ward is in there too.

SPEAKER 3: So you couldn't find room for and what is it? Randall.

SPEAKER 4: Randall.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I like and Randall he's not gonna, I like Cornell too, but he's not gonna make the tough.

SPEAKER 3: Look, he says Ravens fans focusing on Orioles ownership this week and Corbett freaking burns, you know what Corbin Burns rookie card makes me. I'D like to make that my next one.

SPEAKER 4: Corbin, we talked before the show. I didn't even hear about that news today and I, I was hoping the Mets still had a chance to get him so much for that theory.

SPEAKER 3: Now, we, gave up a, a shortstop prospect who was a top 100 guy DL Hall who's a lefty, either reliever back end or starter and the number 34 pick in the draft for one year. So it wasn't cheap.

SPEAKER 4: Doctor May said no, no tits, no and, and there'll be no tsitsi in Pittsburgh next year.

SPEAKER 3: Oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER 3: Troy Paul Malo.

SPEAKER 4: Oh, yeah. How can I forget Troy?

SPEAKER 4: I, I'm not, I love Frank. I like I have nothing against Frank O Harris. I just wasn't like he just didn't make my life. Maybe I put Franco ahead of Lynn Swan. It's funny. Now I'm starting to rearrange my Palo Melo is right there.

SPEAKER 4: Like it wouldn't probably been easier to do a top 10 off the cuff rather than top five because you, you try and then you realize like, oh, I missed him. He should be up ahead and you know, so top 10 I could have rattled off a lot easier with less thinking and less. Like, whoops, I missed him type of deal.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, I I'm, I'm just, queuing up my, Orioles Magic theme song over here. So tell me when.

SPEAKER 4: You, is, is it, is it you or me?

SPEAKER 3: I think it's me. Yeah, it's, you can, I make that up. I wanted to throw up Chuck Klein. This is a randomly sentimental card for me. My stepfather has played a huge role in my life and his name happens to be Charles Kline. And, I picked this up at the national randomly. I've known about this card forever. It's been a running joke in our family.

SPEAKER 3: He tells us that he's related to Chuck Klein. And, there's no relation at all. And, it, it's just one of these cards I hold on to and, and it, it makes me think of my stepfather and, and, love him to death and I love the cards to death and it's, you know, it's like, for me it's weird to say this, it's almost like having a family picture because we're not a good looking family.

SPEAKER 3: So I'D rather look at a 33rd death. So, you know, iiiiii, I find it, you know, something that reminds me of him and, he's still alive. That, that, that sounded like he was gone. He's still here with us. But, but, you know, I like having the card and I'm gonna hold on to that one forever.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, that's what it's about. Right. The, the, that's what the title of the show is cards that were, were sentimental about. And then you tell the story right there to, to why? So no one can ar no one can argue, right? No one can, we can argue, you know, top 10 second baseman, we can and debate that, but no one can debate your personal best sentimental cards because they, that's your list, right?

SPEAKER 3: And I'm sorry, I still, I think I in 34 Guardian, I think the 34 G are, are, are cool cards.

SPEAKER 4: So you get a free Lou Gehrig on the card as well. Well, Lou says that you get a picture of me for free, right? That's what he says.

SPEAKER 3: All right, what you got?

SPEAKER 4: All right again where it kind of, you know, started for me, growing up in New York, I'm a big music guy. A lot of people know that about me. You know that, and this guy, fellow New Yorker was my first like guy that, that really got me into music and, to, to where even being a music fan now, I go to a lot of concerts, each year at least five or six, but this is, this will always be my favorite guy.

SPEAKER 4: I recently got this, as you all know, ju just a couple of years ago. And I actually, this is my second one. I have, another one I upgraded I had a five and this is a, this is an eight but this, this is my guy. It's a good timing.

SPEAKER 4: He just came out with a new song yesterday called Turn Turn The Lights Back on. But I'm a, I'm a super fan of this gentleman. Right here. No, that is not Sylvester Stallone as the picture looks like it's, it is Billy Joel and this is his 1980 Panini smash hits. His first real mass produced it's a sticker.

SPEAKER 4: And this is a PS A A, I do have a PS A five that is now in my show, show inventory. This one stays home and anyone that knows me knows I'm a huge Billy Joel guy always will be that will be.

SPEAKER 4: And so I had to, you know, I had to add that sticker. You know, I know I sometimes say card but it's it's actually a sticker to my personal collection. And so again, following the theme of get people or players that got it started for me. That was my music, you know, that was, that's the Jackie Robinson for music for me if you will or Reggie, I guess you could say you're welcome, warn.

SPEAKER 3: No, dude, I love that sticker card, whatever you wanna call it.

SPEAKER 3: We share our love for Billy Joel and it's one of those weird coincidences that, that's come along. So I, I love the new song. Glad you pulled that card out. Glad you went non baseball. I feel like II, I assured myself now.

SPEAKER 4: Well, I said, wait, listen, variety is the spice of life. Somebody said that, I don't know.

SPEAKER 3: So you did have Chinese food tonight, didn't you?

SPEAKER 4: I did have Chinese food. Is that your Fortune Cookie? Now, you know what my fortune cookie said here is. Well, how ironic. I do remember what my fortune cookie said. It said.

SPEAKER 4: Which is weird because of the show we're doing. It said, happiness is non attachment.

SPEAKER 4: Oh, so, so.

SPEAKER 3: Send me your card. That a weird.

SPEAKER 4: That's a weird one. It's a weird one. I didn't really, I'm sure there's some sort of meaning here. II, I didn't really like it but it is what it is.

SPEAKER 3: I think you're supposed to send me all your cards.

SPEAKER 4: Is it sacrilegious? If you don't like the fortune, you just open another cookie to get one you like?

SPEAKER 3: No, I tried it with my kids all the time.

SPEAKER 4: It's like opening packs till you get a hit. Oh, that's called breaking. Yeah. Will you open a fortune cookie till you get the, through the fortune you, you actually like.

SPEAKER 3: All right, I'm moving on to my next one.

SPEAKER 3: This is a quick one. This was my first real non Baltimore related hero.

SPEAKER 3: Just somebody who I just thought the world of I saw him make one of his greatest plays in person when the Royals were in Baltimore.

SPEAKER 3: And this card just kind of spoke to me forever. The 90 score Bo Jackson.

SPEAKER 3: I just love this card.

SPEAKER 3: II I the back of it. I I should have shown the picture with the BNEO and the Royals and Raiders colors. He will not sign this card actually, if the autograph versions are, are are pretty rare.

SPEAKER 3: I just, he was, he was so amazing. If you do didn't live through Bo Jackson, it's hard to even put him into words to people.

SPEAKER 3: And, and, and, and he, like I said, he was the first person that I didn't have any connection with. He didn't play locally. He wasn't from Baltimore. You know, there, there was no reason other than, you know, he was just so gifted. And, and I just fell, fell in love with his talents and him as a player. So that card and it just spoke to a certain time in my life and you know, that's, that's why it was on my list.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, that's an iconic card. No, no doubt. I think Ruben said rumor has it, John was the fourth beastie boy. That is a true story. Or at least I like to portray it as a true story contract.

SPEAKER 4: But yeah, yeah, that you know, they needed a DJ and I couldn't do it. So I was out and, I could rap and beat box but they, they wanted, someone to spin the records and, not my forte. So, the pink slip, I got, but, yeah, no, that's a, that's a great card. And, you know, Doctor Mayer asked him, why won't he sign it? What's the story? Do you know it there?

SPEAKER 3: It was a contract dispute.

SPEAKER 3: And he didn't feel my understanding is he didn't feel he was compensated for, for the card. So he, he, he the poster, the picture of the card. I forget though if he signs any of them.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah. All right. All right. Well, you'll go out there and try to buy one.

SPEAKER 3: And I think like when he goes to the National, they usually even have that in parenthesis that he doesn't sign that. That's how, that's how popular it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: We were, we were after making John one of the beastie boys, he was kicked out because he slept before in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER 4: I like it sounds like a T shirt I should have made. Right, Warren.

SPEAKER 3: I agree with you. Bo Jackson is one of the greatest athletes, in my opinion. In fact, I'm gonna start, I think piecing multis, sport athletes. I want to go after Jim Thorpe, babe, Dirickson Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson guys that dominated in multiple sports, not just played. I'm not, I, I don't want to collect Danny Age but any age. Yeah, I don't need to collect him. Chuck Connors. Yeah. The, the, the actor.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah. Well, he was, he played for the Celtics and the Brooklyn Dodgers.

SPEAKER 3: The Hunt, the Hunter.

SPEAKER 4: Oh, Fred.

SPEAKER 4: Well, yeah, Fred. And there's a lot of like actors that obviously, L A Rams.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER 4: All right.

SPEAKER 4: All right. So, so this one, you know, I, I, I said I was a Yankee fan and then I be, you know, about 1982 83 I became a Mets fan switched over. But this guy is a Yankee.

SPEAKER 4: This card is 84. This guy even though I wasn't a Yankee fan anymore. This gentleman was one of my favorite players in baseball, even not being a Yankee fan any longer. You probably many people probably guessing who this is.

SPEAKER 4: And this particular card, it says rookie, but this particular brand I love this design of this year and I opened and spent a lot of money on 1984 Don Rs packs trying to pull one of one of my favorite rookie cards of all time, which is the 84 Don Rs Don Madding.

SPEAKER 4: I love the Don 84 Don R design. One of my all time favorite designs and is Don Manley. Everyone knows I've got, you know, not only a thing for acetate cards, but close up facial rookie cards, I find even more iconic than in action ones.

SPEAKER 4: And this, this one checks all the boxes for me and, and I can't tell you, you know, I I made Don Russ a lot of money in 1984. So, and you know, the I just remember any time I, you know, I remember two feelings, right?

SPEAKER 4: Every time I opened an 84 Donner's pack and it wasn't in there, I remember that feeling and I also remember that euphoric feeling when I saw, you know, and I would, you know, you slowly slide the cards to the left or right in my case to the right and you see, you know, you see the ear and the face and it's a man like there was another guy and he was a pitcher for the Cubs that had sort of the same shot and sometimes I get fooled and it was, it was like him instead of instead of manly.

SPEAKER 4: And then it would be, it would go from euphoria like, oh man. And but this was, this was the one of the early chase cards for me when I had a little bit more money, even as a 12 year old doing some chores and, and, and inside work to, to make some money and.

SPEAKER 3: Back then everybody thought he was gonna be a Hall Of Famer. Yeah.

SPEAKER 4: And he probably should have like me one day. I mean, if we're gonna let guys like, Joe Mauer in, well, well, ma I think was great and he.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, I know. I heard it's funny he played for the Orioles.

SPEAKER 4: Going for his Oreo career though. He's, you know, no, it was.

SPEAKER 3: For his White Sox career.

SPEAKER 3: Although he's from Maryland.

SPEAKER 4: That's so I do have a soft spot for, oh, so it even worked out better than I thought it was originally going to the Chicken Mo Mo Berg.

SPEAKER 3: I don't know if you guys.

SPEAKER 4: You actually have the card showing like pictures on the screen.

SPEAKER 3: So I don't get all the weird glare and awkwardness that I get.

SPEAKER 4: I get whatever tomato, tomato.

SPEAKER 3: Morris Moberg, the guy was a spy. The guy combines my love of history, my love of baseball and my love of cars. Everything about it. It's a hard card to find in good condition. It's an expensive card because he was a backup catcher and nobody kept his cards.

SPEAKER 3: It, it's just everything about it. Resonates with me. I think it's a good looking card. If you can find one in higher condition. The color really does pop.

SPEAKER 3: But I, I just to me it's it can make me speechless. The whole story. If you're not familiar with it, I'll, I'll save you the whole thing.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, I do need this on a t-shirt. Thanks. For that.

SPEAKER 3: But I, I.

SPEAKER 4: Just, what you need on a T shirt is the back of this card.

SPEAKER 4: Make this shirt make this shirt like the front of your shirt is the front of the card and the back is the chicken back. You gotta get, you gotta do, I gotta.

SPEAKER 3: Label a rare rare chicken back edition.

SPEAKER 3: What's up Logan? Hey Logan.

SPEAKER 3: So that's why I that's why I put the Moberg on the list, you know, I guess it's 22 gaudy. I didn't do that on purpose but I do like the look and they, they do resonate with me but maybe it was chalk but I had to, I had to put the Moberg in there.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah. Yeah, you do, Mo that's your Jackie in a way. I mean it is.

SPEAKER 3: I mean, there's a book, there's a movie, you know, this, this whole story, you know, is why we love these guys and he's become more famous, you know, recently than he ever has been. And I think that's cool.

SPEAKER 4: So, yeah, his legend is actually bigger than the player itself. It doesn't always, doesn't always happen. All right, this next one for, for me.

SPEAKER 4: Again, we're going in with another sport, right? I'm, I'm gonna go off the grid off of baseball and it's not football this time. But, who, oops. And growing up in Brooklyn, you know, I, I love where I, you know, I love to represent, I love where I come from. I'm very proud of that as I, I all should be of, of where, wherever you're from.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, and this dude I, I knew about him before he ever made it to the NBA. Played at Saint John's gym, rep became an NBA, became a, a basketball Hall Of Famer, but I knew about him before all that. And thanks to you and, and event, I, I eventually got to meet him, what, two, I think, three years ago, which is one of the great hobby, life moments for me.

SPEAKER 4: And when I meet him, I, you know, I talked to him, what, 78, 10 minutes didn't talk any basketball. All we did was talk about Karsi Brooklyn. We're both from the same section in Brooklyn. So we talked about stores and places where we, you know, where we worked and, and that sort of thing. And it's Chris Mullin. Chris Mullin is my basket. Chris Mullin.

SPEAKER 4: I know Michael Jordan is a, you know, the best player to do it, but Chris Mullin is my Michael Jordan as a kid in Brooklyn. And so meeting him, you know, a couple of years ago, just one of my big thrills. No, I didn't get speechless but man, it was a great night and love me some, some molly and you know, he'll, he'll always be that, that guy for, for me.

SPEAKER 4: And, you know, I have a lot of, I actually have a lot of mull and stuff but, this is the rookie card so I figured I'D, and what's nice about this? This is really his real rookie card. Like I know because if they didn't do basketball sets, but this is actually even had they been making basketball sets. This is his actual rookie card.

SPEAKER 3: So Rubin says the story would have been better if John like dated Chris's sister or something. John might not be here to tell the story.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER 4: I'm sure he has siblings but I don't know if he, you know, you know, male, female or who they are. But Chris Mullin was my idol you know, in the basketball realm growing up and.

SPEAKER 3: Luckily him and I go way back. So we're able to take care of that for you.

SPEAKER 3: I do All right, I'm running out of cards here. I know you have one. I am. I'm this one is so chalk. I have nothing to say it's embarrassing. So do you wanna show one more before I go chalk?

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I have two more left.

SPEAKER 3: So yeah, why don't you show one more now?

SPEAKER 4: All right. So I'm gonna, you know, I'm I went Syracuse New York. So I, I had to pay homage tonight to you know, someone tied to Syracuse and one of my favorite car.

SPEAKER 4: You know, one of my favorite football year sets design wise. And tr unfortunately a sad story, he was the number one pick in 1961 out of Syracuse University. He is the first black a or I should say african-American Heisman trophy winner. Although we can argue, Jim Brown probably should have won it prior but didn't. So this gentleman became the first African American Heisman trophy winner.

SPEAKER 4: He got bra he got drafted number one by the Cleveland Browns. They already had Jim Brown and they still drafted this gentleman. Unfortunately, he was diagnosed with leukemia and succumbed to the terrible disease and, never played, a regular season game in the NFL. But, it's, Ernie Davis and it's the, 62 tops, rookie horizontal card.

SPEAKER 4: Love this design. You know, you got the inaction, shot, then you got the name, the name box and then you got the bigger photo right there and this is a card. Anytime this is my best one. I do have a couple of raw ones.

SPEAKER 4: But anytime I can see this card in, it's fairly affordable, even though I have it already, I just, I just add, I just add to it. If you don't know about Ernie Davis, look into him, the movie, the Express was about his life with, with Dennis Quaid and just just a tragic story but a great gentleman. The field, the dome where the Syracuse Orange play, the football game is na named the field itself.

SPEAKER 4: It's AJ M AJ MA Wireless Dome, but the field inside there itself was called Ernie Ernie Davis Legends Field. And Jim Brown on when the day they dedicated the field, Jim Brown was there to christen it and talk about him and someone asked him, you know, the, you know, it's not Jim Brown Field. It's how do you feel about that?

SPEAKER 4: He goes you know, I supported 100% Ernie Davis, you know, is a great human being and that's why I'm here today. So Ernie Davis here in this town, but even more so, you know, people who know the story about him will will, will get that. So I wanted to pay a little, a little homage to, you know, where I am now with with the Ernie Davis car. The Panda Express is good too.

SPEAKER 4: Ok?

SPEAKER 3: I only because we were just talking about it yesterday.

SPEAKER 3: I didn't mean to step on your story. It was I love Panda Express. If I told my kids that we were leaving for Panda Express right now, they would get in the car, they would wake up from a cold sleep.

SPEAKER 3: Now first of all, the Ernie Davis story is incredible if, and if you don't know, Jim Brown helped recruit Ernie Davis to, to Syracuse.

SPEAKER 3: And so there, there was never really a rivalry, you know, talked about both of them in Cleveland and I think that's part of the reason he was so gracious.

SPEAKER 4: Can you imagine, like I, you know, had Ernie Davis not got ill. Imagine that backfield, Ernie Davis and Jim Brown in the same backfield.

SPEAKER 3: I mean, it, it was, it was unheard of and, and that's the thing, am I correct? Ernie Davis never actually played in, right? He was diagnosed right after he was played.

SPEAKER 4: If my, if my memory serves me right. He, he suited up like briefly for one preseason game and I'm not even sure he actually carry, got any carries, but I think he was in uniform, but he definitely never played. He, he passed away before the season even started.

SPEAKER 4: And so, sad story of what could have been and, and, you know, still a legend for never playing on the professional legend, still on a professional level, still a legend and, and that's not always very common that that happens.

SPEAKER 3: So, staying on the important stuff, Panda Express rocks. If you're really going off on the flight to Baltimore tonight, you know what everybody's watching tonight, I'll go to Panda Express.

SPEAKER 4: What time are they open to?

SPEAKER 3: I'll find one don't worry that that's a fair. There's probably one in the airport.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER 3: That's hilarious. All right. So let me share my last one. Everybody can laugh at the chalk. Ha ha. Danny likes how Ripkin. Well, you know, what, what else would I pick for the card that speaks? This is it, it's not the 82 tops traded.

SPEAKER 3: It's not the minor league on orange. It's nothing Fancy. It is. This $40 tops common, brilliant, beautiful card that it happens to be an error on the back. Jeff Schneider's birthday is wrong. Poor Jeff Schneider. It's an uncorrected error.

SPEAKER 3: And it has Cal Ripken as the third baseman and Bob, it is pronounced Bonner as the shortstop. And, you know, the, this was, this was the, the rookie card of rookie cards, in Baltimore. I mean, this is, you know, every kid in Baltimore had had one of this card, if not 10 of this card.

SPEAKER 3: To this day, I, I get calls, people trying to sell this card and you know, it, it, it's, it's, it's a card. I'll, I'll never forget, never will leave my mind. I know front and back.

SPEAKER 3: And got one on the wall always. And, I love that car.

SPEAKER 4: And he's now the owner of the team. So at least he is a minority owner. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I got one more and, I'm going again off the grid. Here. This is not a, a card per se. I love, you know, I like to lead up to it like, you know, Robert Stack and unsolved mysteries here. But, this is from my store here.

SPEAKER 4: So I own a store from 19 92 to 97. We were, I had a partner named Angelo. We work direct with all the card companies at the time. So we would buy cases for the store. And, you know, we each usually get a box ourselves to open and then the rest of the, the case was for the shop and whether to sell, you know, sealed wax or open for packs.

SPEAKER 4: So in my box of this product, I opened my box and I just happened to look at the top of the pack and seeing the best player in the product on the top of the pack. And I just said, you know what, I'm not gonna open this pack. And so this pack is actually 30 years old this year from 1992 1993 stadium club basketball.

SPEAKER 4: And I got, I wound up getting a graded by PS A and so this is a 1992 93 Stadium club basketball pack with Shaquille o's rookie on the top. The flip does the note Shaq Shaquille O'Neal on top on the flip.

SPEAKER 4: And what, you know what this means to me is just, it brings me back to my store days and, you know, six years that I loved owning the store have now owned the store. You know, I do shows and, and do that sort of thing, but that was the last time I owned the store, you know, I left and I believe late 1996. And so, you know, and, and we talked about this when we were kind of coming up with the concept or the topic for the show.

SPEAKER 4: Something that means more to you is, right? Something you pull yourself and then whether you grade it, you grade yourself and then you have it for the whole time. Right?

SPEAKER 4: And so this, this particular item, I don't wanna, it's not a car, there's cards inside the back, but this item is like from start to finish has been with me and it brings me back to my, my store days and, it's a, it sits on my desk in front of me and it's just a constant reminder of that error. Right. That was like my wheelhouse of having my store traveling doing shows.

SPEAKER 4: You know, I was a little bit older than a hobby in, in 93. I was 21. So I was a young guy in the hobby trying to, to make it. I was full time at that point with, with the store too. So it brings me back, to those days. And so that's, that's, you know, we talk about sentimental, this definitely was going to make, the sentimentalist.

SPEAKER 3: So I'm not, yeah, I don't, I can't even make fun of that. That, that was really, that was genuinely, very nice.

SPEAKER 4: And, you know, there is something to be said, right. And, and I, I'D be interested that even if the, to hear the chat room starts on this, right. There's something to be said when you pull something, obviously that's a whole pack. So it was in the box that I was already open and, and just when I saw it through the wrap, I just decided to keep it closed.

SPEAKER 4: But in cases where we're opening packs, right? And we pull that card ourselves and then if we grade it or even, we don't grade it and we keep it all those years right. There's something to be said about that. Like I showed the Reggie 79 it's not the original 79.

SPEAKER 4: If that would have been the original 79 that would have been even more special to think that was like the car and it would have graded probably a two because I was carrying that thing around bouncing and put rubber bands around it. But the son to be a said about something you've owned from start to finish. There's, it means a little bit more than just going to a show and buying that.

SPEAKER 4: There's nothing wrong with that either. But when, when it, when it, I think it's almost pure when you, you have it from the starting point to the ending. And I think most people feel that way. And so that's sort of what that represents. And again, it's an homage to my, my store owning date, my LC si I think.

SPEAKER 3: That's the the sentiment that I was talking about, you know, when we were talking about why to do the show.

SPEAKER 3: I, I think we talked about a lot of cards. I will say you, you've made me extremely sad that my collection got stolen all over again because now I wish I had all my card.

SPEAKER 3: But no, there's the, you know, I, I know that Logan has a PC of, of funny funny name, athletes and players and, you know, and he talked about chasing down the Bill Ripken face card. I, this is what it's about, you know, if, if we can't have fun with this and if we can't have moments and we can't have connections, then, you know, what are we doing here? You know, then, then.

SPEAKER 4: And again, like throw out the vows. Yes. The Jackie Rookie is a good chunk of change, right? With the Reggie, you know, it's probably under 20 bucks. The Mullens probably a 40 $50 card. Right to me. It's not just the dollar, it's actually not in, in for today's show, it's not the dollar signs. And, like we talked about that. Right. That Jackie could be 500 bucks and it's still, would have the same meaning, to me.

SPEAKER 4: And that's one of the beauties of collecting is, it doesn't always have to be. I know I wrote an article somewhere, whether it's for Hobby News Daily or S CD, where I talk about that very concept that throw out like, what a card is always worth. Sure. It's, it's nice when your collection is, is very valuable. But it's gotta be more, to me, it's gotta be more than that.

SPEAKER 4: To me again, you know, whatever floats your hobby boat. But for me, it, it's, it's gotta be more than that when I started as a seven year old kid.

SPEAKER 4: You know, there was no real price, Sky Jet. It wasn't about value. For me in 1979 it was about, I love that guy. I love that team. He did that. He's an awesome player. That's really, that's was really the bare bones of it.

SPEAKER 4: And, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in a, not in a way, I'm actually glad that I started collecting in the error I did before kind of where we are now. And, you know, so because I think, I think people from that era and before, and a little bit after that, they're, you know, traditionally it's more the stories than, than the values.

SPEAKER 3: Let me ask you, let me ask you a question if I, is there any car out there that would still have sentimental value to you that you don't have?

SPEAKER 4: That's a good question. I mean, I don't own every Jackie. I mean, I got one is equally special, you know.

SPEAKER 4: You know, not really. I think I've acquired, I'm probably forgetting something.

SPEAKER 4: You know, I wi it's not a regret. I wish I had that original Reggie you beat up as it probably was in the end. I don't know. You know, I don't even know really what happened to it. I just know, I don't have it anymore. Whether it's, I, you know, got thrown out by my grandparents by accident. Maybe I, you know, traded to, to some, maybe when I became a Mets fan, I just said I, who cares?

SPEAKER 4: Quite frankly, I might have did that. You have it, you know, to one of my Yankee friends, you want this Reggie Jackson Ger Disco maniac guy, you know, so I don't really know how that ended, but the, but I still have to pay homage to that card for what it means. You know, I'm doing math and I had 44 years after the fact and, I, so I wish I had the original and not, never got rid of it.

SPEAKER 4: But, you know, well, probably that would be it. I, I don't, you know, I don't, again, I don't have every Jackie. So, you know, but I got the one that, you know, I really wanted. So, not, not really, you know, not nuts.

SPEAKER 4: They blame, always blame Canada.

SPEAKER 3: Take the guy named Mookie and listen to him.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah. No. And, and, you know, maybe that's what happened to that Reggie. I, when I became a Mets fan, I'm like, I don't want the Reggie anymore. Not real, not realizing, you know, in 8382 that I might have. Well, yeah, I did not, I think it was too early. I might have traded it for Tom sever, you know, or something like that. But, it's gone.

SPEAKER 4: But, you know, I, I went and re reacquired. The card is to remember where it all began. Right. And that, I think that's important regardless of the value of the car. How did we get here? You know, how do we get into this crazy hobby? And, you know, while I may not be a Yankees fan anymore, I was then, and that card was really what, you know, got me going. All right.

SPEAKER 3: I think it's very cool. Now, we did not do a lot of funny cards. I don't, I don't buy a lot of them even though there's cards that make me laugh.

SPEAKER 3: The Brooks Robinson, where he looks like he's, leaving the outhouse, instead of, playing baseball.

SPEAKER 3: You know, that's a funny card. That, that's one that, that, that I, I always get a chuckle out of Brooks was quoted as saying it's his least favorite card ever. So he was aware of it.

SPEAKER 3: And I, but there's no emotional attachment. That's, that's a funny story. There's no emotional attachment. You know, I think a lot of this has to happen organically, like you said, a time and place your life a pack you open, you know, or had, you know, originally on your own. And you all those years, you know, it's hard to manufacture.

SPEAKER 4: That type of. Yeah, I mean, even, you know, again with this pack, man, it just, you know, this was 21 year old. Me had this and I still have it, you know, 30 years, 30 years later.

SPEAKER 4: It's just, it's funny because I don't have a lot of stuff, the original stuff from 1993 anymore, just being a show deal and setting up a show my store days and selling a lot of that stuff at the time. And so the fact that has lasted 30 years for me, you know, it is, doesn't mean that more that all the more, you know what I mean? So I just.

SPEAKER 3: Want to, clarify for Ruben here.

SPEAKER 4: You putting it up.

SPEAKER 3: Yep. Here's the, 58 Brooks. I mean, that's one of the most unfortunate faces they've ever put on a baseball card.

SPEAKER 4: Dude. I've seen worse though. I've seen worse but, yeah, I, I get it. Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, he, he doesn't look like he's playing baseball.

SPEAKER 3: So, he was quoted as saying that was his least favorite ever. So, anytime athletes are aware of their least favorite card. Yeah, I appreciate that.

SPEAKER 3: What, what else, over the years, any other cards that were not price wise that caught your attention?

SPEAKER 4: No, I mean, I, you know, collect, I'm a rookie.

SPEAKER 3: You're a minor league guy. So you collect a lot of that too.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I mean, I, I listen, I, I didn't put it on the list today. I mean, I own the car but I didn't put it in it. No, the, the 89 Brooks was from Arkansas, you know, the 89 upper deck, Ken Griffey, right? Is, is sentimental. That was, that was 17 year old me, ripping again just like 84 genres ripping packs and, and, you know, trying to pull as many of those.

SPEAKER 4: So that, that could have, that could have made my list. I mean, I guess in this sense it did because I'm talking about it now. I mean, it's behind me, o on the wall here but, I really tried to focus on the deep, the deeper, the deeper the deep cuts, on the record if, if you will, you know, and, I think, you know, you know, the, the, the Griffy is on is, it's on the album, but it's not the deep cut.

SPEAKER 4: And so I didn't, I didn't necessarily pull it off out of the case and, and to talk about it. But that, that's another one that brings me back to a time of, of mine and a hobby and, and that sort of thing.

SPEAKER 3: I'm gonna share one non card and I don't know if I've shown this before, but this is the 93 All Star game in Baltimore. And what I really want to show is the background here makes one picture, these four tickets together form a one picture background. Did you see that?

SPEAKER 4: You should have, you should have a frame. Oh, you're saying on the ticket himself? Yeah, that's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: So if it was off one seat to the left or one seat to the right, the picture wouldn't line up. And those were my seats to the 93 All Star game. So those are my original tickets that we kept in condition at the game and had framed. So that's the one non card item that, that I've kept and that's now heading on just over the 30 years.

SPEAKER 3: So I wanna give a shout out to my, to my ticket.

SPEAKER 4: Shout out to the tickets, man.

SPEAKER 3: Shout out to the tickets. All right man. We got Ruben says, according to Cheryl Crow, the first cut is the deepest cut.

SPEAKER 4: And you know what I like, I laugh about that. I'm not a huge Cheryl Crow fan. So the fact that I mentioned with Cheryl Crow, you know, I don't hate her, but I don't hate anyone for that matter. But, not a big Cheryl Crow guy, to be honest.

SPEAKER 4: Now, when I talk Lady Gaga, you know, I, and I used to have a thing for Madonna back in the day until she got arms like she could choke me out and I was off the Madonna. But, you know Pat Benatar, you know Pat Benatar, I was a Pat Benatar kid and you know, so I, I always like no, she croda.

SPEAKER 3: No, she maybe a little Joni Mitchell before my 10th.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, I know who she is.

SPEAKER 3: But anyway, all right. Well, here this, this actually came up recently at the did the ticket guy you had on another show ever get you hooked up with that ticket yet? Not yet. I, I am still working on that ticket and I am blown away that you remember that date?

SPEAKER 3: Age 2483 is the, is the date I'm looking for? Orioles Blue Jays. I'll throw it out there again if anybody has that ticket. All right, John, two more weeks and three more weeks and I've got a big family milestone. So we've got a show in two weeks. Did I lose you?

SPEAKER 4: I think you, you hear me?

SPEAKER 3: Yeah. Now there you are. I was saying that is.

SPEAKER 4: The next show gonna be like the top 10 cards we disliked.

SPEAKER 3: Based upon this reaction. No, I'm not gonna pick the next topic.

SPEAKER 4: We should do like top 10 cards. We really don't like that much and maybe the Brooks makes that list for you.

SPEAKER 3: Well, may I might, that, that I can look into.

SPEAKER 3: But I was saying that, that we're, we're, we're on next week, but I wanted to share that in a couple of weeks. We have a family family blessing. My sons are getting bar mitzvahed and card mentions it is the place to share that news. So we are very excited for that. Sorry, you won't be able to quit your job and come and celebrate with us.

SPEAKER 4: But well, I could and then you could do I work for you.

SPEAKER 3: Right. Well, that wouldn't work.

SPEAKER 3: So, but so I just wanted to share, so look into that. Thank you very much. Doctor Mayer.

SPEAKER 4: Yeah, that's very cool man. I wish we were honestly, I just, you know, no, no joking. I wish we were a little bit closer. I would definitely be there as you well know it you know, congrats to them ahead of time. So, so don't screw anything up fellas or, well, they're twin boys.

SPEAKER 3: So in two weeks, we might have to find a twin theme or something like that. Maybe we'll do the best twins and all the twins we can think of in baseball history or something.

SPEAKER 4: And, I don't know how long that list is.

SPEAKER 3: Just not an hour. It's probably not an hour long. This is why we hashed out, not in real time on air. I guess.

SPEAKER 4: I like whether it's the next show or future one. I like the 10 cards. We're not fans.

SPEAKER 3: Of all right. Next one is 10 cards. John's not fans of ho so they're like the twins on G I, Joe.

SPEAKER 4: How about the Wonder Twins form of whatever? Right?

SPEAKER 3: I have no idea what you're talking about.

SPEAKER 4: You don't know the Wonder Twins. They touch rings and they change into whatever they said. Am I the only one?

SPEAKER 3: Has anybody else ever?

SPEAKER 4: People know who the Wonder Twins are?

SPEAKER 3: I, I've never heard of these Wonder Twins.

SPEAKER 4: You better Google, you better get Google at your house.

SPEAKER 3: I my petty.

SPEAKER 4: We missed the Petty one Niners tonight.

SPEAKER 3: That was definitely, I was cracking the U CDC live for the last hour.

SPEAKER 3: Steven says, do they do bar Mitzvah parties at Panda Express? I got news for you.

SPEAKER 4: My my, I'm just disappointed we got upstage by a CDC.

SPEAKER 3: Well, I, I just want to be clear that my sons would have had their Bar Mitzvah at Panda Express or would have been fine if Panda Express caters their bar Mitzvah, they would be 100% fine with that. But that is Panda Express is very high on their list.

SPEAKER 3: For those about to rock, we salute you Mike Petty and we'll be back in black in two weeks.

SPEAKER 4: All right.

SPEAKER 3: You got anything else before we say good night?

SPEAKER 4: No, man, this was fun. You know, it's always nice sharing some cards that maybe you wouldn't get an opportunity to put them on the air, so to speak. And you know, I, I hope people, you know, I I'll say this, I hope people take from this, right? The the main goal is right.

SPEAKER 4: It's not always about dollar signs of value. It's what the card means to you internally. Who cares what anyone else thinks or someone said, oh that, you know, that's not very expensive. It doesn't matter. It's what the card represents to, to each individual.

SPEAKER 3: This cost me $40 at the national and I, and on, on my list of one of my favorite cards. So I'm gonna, I if I meant to mention that when I showed it earlier, it's not an expensive card. I mean there, there there's cool cards of good players out there have fun, you know. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate it. I was talking earlier. It's actually my stepfather's name is Charles Klein. So sharing that as part of our cards tonight.

SPEAKER 3: All right, John say good night, good night.

SPEAKER 4: Say good night John like yeah, you screwed it up, dandy.

SPEAKER 3: I screwed it up. It's on me. All right. We're gonna, if I, we're gonna see how much more I can screw this up. See everybody.