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Part two with our great guest Joe Hollywood, hailing from
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New York City, like myself, got to know them a
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little bit better after talking to him and really had
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a great conversation with him. Was you know, learned a
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lot about them and likewise and really glad I had
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them on from not really knowing them much of them
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or just hearing about them. You know, we always sort
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of draw conclusions about people without really knowing them, right.
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I'm not saying it's fair or right, but we do
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that as humans. And I got to know him a
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little bit better and really really down the nice guy,
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and uh, you know, really appreciated uh getting to know him.
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And this will be the second half of that conversation.
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So uh, hope you enjoy it, as I always say,
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as much as I enjoy doing them. Uh. So we'll
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try to keep this intro as shorter as we can. Uh.
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And so with that being said, again, listen for that
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contest announcement sometime during the episode, and let's start the
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show part two with Joe Hollywood. Now, you've you worked
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on Wall Street and now obviously you're in the hobby, uh,
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in a in a big way. A lot of people
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like to compare those two Niches, you know, Wall Street
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to the Hobby. As someone who's wore both of those hats,
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I'll ask you, Joe, like, is that fair to draw comparisons?
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Not fair similarities? Differences? Like when when you hear that,
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I'm sure you have you know, how do you, as
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someone who's who who's war again wore both of those hats?
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You know, how do you feel when you hear that?
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I think a lot of people make that comparison because
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you know, value of the cards go up and down, right,
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And the first thing that you associate that with is
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is Wall Street? You associate with, you know, things that
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trade every single day, they go up and down. I
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will tell you though, the card market, the volatility on
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some of these cards is just absolutely But with that said,
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I mean some of these cards that they're coming out
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with are just absolutely And I have to say Tops
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has done a very very good job of making some
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very high quality product and one of them that I think,
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I don't know what you think about it, but I
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think they did a very good job with and I
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will say I'm also very excited about TOPS Chrome update
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that's coming out for basketball. I think that's obvious eventually
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for football, I think those are going to be just
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unbelievable product. But taking a look at what they did,
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the product that really stand out to me is how
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they really transformed that Cosmic product, you know, with that
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unlicensed product. Obviously they got the license for it and
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they came out and the Cosmic product became one of
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my most popular products that people love searching for planets
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searching for some of these super fractors. We actually pulled
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a super fractor from tops Cosmic Basketball and it was
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Coper Flag, So we're really proud about that.
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And so never heard of them.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
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I'm sure.
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I mean how popular it would he become popularly to
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that guy me, I mean, I mean thing about it,
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and you know what the other kid, kan Ka Nipple
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and Charlotte and then I got a good friendship with
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Greg Williams who plays for the Hornets. I got to
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tell you this guy con he really, I mean, he
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set the three point record for a rookie. I think
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this guy really might be the real deal. So I think,
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you know, having a good rookie class. I mean Dylan
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Harper edge Combe, I mean, from what we saw from
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the twenty four class versus the twenty five class. I mean,
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my got I mean it's almost it's almost night and day,
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and I think we needed I think the hobby needs
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those really really good classes. Now we're all hoping that
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this next class is twenty sixth classes. You know it
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is just as good, if not, you know, maybe even
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slightly a little bit less, but more slightly even better.
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the same thing for football, right, I mean, let's say,
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let's see what happens, especially in Las Vegas. Now, I mean,
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they got the number one pick, they got a strong
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quarterback that's coming in there, and you know they also
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sign a veteran quarterback to take over. And you know,
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Kirk Cousins is no slouch. I know he didn't work
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out for him in Atlanta, but you know he brought
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Minnesota to the playoffs. He made the playoffs when he
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was with Washington. I mean, the guy's not I wouldn't
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say the journey in quarterback. I would say the guy's
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a quality quarterback, and we'll see what happens. Obaby becomes
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a good mentor. I would hope to think it's almost
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like a almost like how Kurt Warner came to the
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New York Giants. Do you remember when Kurt Warner came
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to the Giants that he played that one year? It
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was the same the year that Eli Manning was Eli
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Manstrift here four and they had him start, you know,
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six or eight games at him start, and then he
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was kind of menentoring Eli around.
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Along the way.
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And then but the best part about that is and
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he goes from there and he goes to Arizona, and
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he goes to Arizona and he goes to a super Bowl.
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They almost won that Super Bowl. They probably should have won.
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That Super Bowl against.
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Every every night I say it, thank you to James Harrison.
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Remember ran that touchdown still the longest touchdown returning Super
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Bowl history, over one hundred yards. Caught it like one
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or two yards into the end zone, which had Arizona
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scored there that game probably we're talking about in Arizona
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and Kurt warrener Super Bowl. Harrison picked it off and somehow,
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I mean he's not a small guy, big linebacker, just rumbles,
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bumbles and stumbles the whole way. It looked like he
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was going to be down at like to ten and
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he's sort of like I want to say hurdle because
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he have that big hut. But everyone, if you've seen
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the game, he sort of just like side steps, half jumps,
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stays on his feet, almost falls, Uh you know, teammate
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sort of helps him, pushes him forward and somehow gets
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in the end zone and literally ends the half that way.
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And I just a momentum swing of that, and they
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still almost lost. It took a Roethlisberger to San Antonio
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Holmes point of the end zone touchdown to win the game.
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So the Steelers almost tried to lose that in a
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few different ways and just were saved by by some
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plays made by some great players. But uh yeah, and
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Kurt Wander. You know, some people argue he shouldn't be
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in the Hall or should. I know, me and my
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son have had that debate. My son doesn't think. But
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anytime you win a super Bowl, and I just think
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when you think of the story the guy was bagging
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groceries at a supermarket and then becomes a Super Bowl
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MVP and a run with the Season MVP, I think
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there's something to be set about that. So I know
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his career wasn't as long as some of these other
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quarterback legends and Hall of Fame. But he's got hardware,
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he's got a great backstory. It's a pretty humble guy too,
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kind of a god fearing guy. So I think when
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you put that all together, I get it. My son says, well,
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just look at the stats and take the like, you know,
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and I'm like, well, if you do that, but that's
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really not how it's done, So you can't do it
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like that. We could do a whole show on that.
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You mentioned, you know, some Tops product. Again, we grew
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up around the same time we grew up where there
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was other things besides Tops, right.
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Fleear Score and upper Deck came along in eighty.
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Nine, and I'm not gonna lie, Joe, I sort of
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missed those days where you had multiple licenses, you know,
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as you mentioned Tops, and Fanatics now holds three of
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the four major licenses there.
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Even as a low rumor going around.
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That there maybe you will try to get the NHL
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one two at some point or get it from upper
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Deck somehow, do you I guess two Prome question One?
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Do you miss Do you miss not having like.
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Multiple choices for you know, for products like we used
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to have, And if not, are you worried like my
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fear always is with fanatics and tops, having three to
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four the less competition, right, there's less drive to perform.
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Like if you're in a race with four or five people,
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you're going to motivate yourself to train hard to be
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as fast as you can using a bad analogy, but
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when you're sort of the only one in the race,
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you sort of can rest on your laurels and maybe
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not work as hard as someone who who saw all
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those brands and now we don't really have them. You know,
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how do you weigh in on the current state, you know,
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the hobby.
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With the license?
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Yeah, I remember those brands. Are you a couple that
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you didn't mention them in the genres?
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Yeah?
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Of course I remember sport Flix, remember sports Flex yep.
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And when those came out, you remember that was like
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people were like, wow, that's so cool, like it was
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just a whole they ever really caught on in a
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big way. But people thought they were cool. I thought
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they were cool. I just I probably didn't buy a
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ton of them.
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I bought some.
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But yeah, like you said, obviously don uh even some
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lesser known company try to produce cards.
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What's your take on where.
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We are now with licensing compared to what we sort
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of grew up with.
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Yeah, So I think in regards to competition, I mean, look,
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I don't think competition would hurt the would hurt them. However,
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what I am afraid about is too much competition flooding
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the market and then devaluing the cards. And that's what
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we've seen before, That's what happened. And so I think
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that this is their way of mitigating that. And so
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for me, if it was another company wasn't Tops, then
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I'd probably be a little read. I mean Panini, Look,
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Panini did a great job with a flawless product. The
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National just product, their immaculate product, and PEC couple products.
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I mean, look, I'm a big fan. I'm a I'm
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a huge fan of flawless. We ripped flawless. Nearly every
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night that I go live, we're opening a flawless suitcase.
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It's till till today. It's one of my favorite things
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to open up. I mean, I realize every time we
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open it up, I got a big smile on life,
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and it's awesome. It's great products, right, and so I
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think Tops is going to do a great job. I
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was opening up Dynasty, opening up Baseball Dynasty and just
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you know again, whoever every box we're hoping at show,
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Hey o Tani, but look we you know, we pulled
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an Aaron Judge out of five auto. That's something really special.
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One oh one.
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We're pulling even definitive. I mean, I know, I'm not
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sure how much of definitive E. Definitive is a great product.
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And this is all for baseball, and so it leads
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me to get really excited of Okay, let's see how
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basketball is, Let's see how football is. Let's see how
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royalty becomes. Now that all of these product and that
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license right, and so I do enjoy the breakers to
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light product. I do enjoy the jumbo hobby product. Like
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my goodness, I'm looking forward to those super high end
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boxes because I think that's if we're seeing the good
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value at a product like chrome and other products that
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brought out. I cannot wait to see how those super
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high end products do so well. We'll see how that works.
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But I think if with another company besides Tops, I
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would probably have a little bit more anxiousness. But I
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think Tops is going to do a great job. This
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isn't their first rodeo. You know, they've been around for
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a long time, and I think that they do do
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a great job with his understanding that I think they
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do a very good job of understanding that, hey, this
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is their moment, and if they do a really poor job,
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we're in a society, then people are going to let
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them know they're doing a poor job. And I'm not
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sure that they can afford to do a bad job
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at this point, right especially taking over those licenses from
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Panini when they did, they have to do it bigger
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and better than it, and so for they've done a
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pretty damn good job to do it. So I'm hoping.
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I don't know what's going to happen with hockey. I mean,
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it seems like a Protect's gonna have that hockey contract
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for forever. And I know Michael Jordan just resigned U
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with a Protect, and I'm wondering to get your thoughts
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on that.
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You find here's, you know, the first thing, and I'll
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get your response in return. The first thing I thought
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Joe when I saw that, which is it's a cool
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it's a cool thing. He's been with him since ninety one,
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so a long term relationship that's basically extended. And then
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the cool thing with them buying those eighty six eighty
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seven packs, right, having them sign twenty three of them
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and one of them as a one to one and
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getting them you know, authenticated in in case and then
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put redemption ins. Right, imagine pulling one of those or
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if you're breaking that product that you know the good one.
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And yeah, for someone that, I mean, that's just cool.
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That's a cool He's not a big signer people who
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are in autographs. No, he doesn't do a ton of
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I don't think. I don't even know if he does
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any sign of it. If you catch him at a
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golf course, I know he's not necessarily rude, but he
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have he will refuse to sign sometime in person. He
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picks his spots and so you know, he's not a
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guy that's what we would call a prevalent UH signer
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in general. So the opportunity and that's why the signatures
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bring what they do. I mean, he's not super old,
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he's still alive, but he's just not a prevalent sign
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So the opportunity to to pull something like that and
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the other thing. But I got off on a little ramp.
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The one of the first things I thought, whether it's
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true or not, Joe, And I'll get your your take
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on this. I thought, well, man, if upper Deck ever
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wants to sell to tops, right, how do you how
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do you raise your price? Right?
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You make enhancements. It's like when you're selling.
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Your house, right, you and you put on an addition
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and you put a new de thank god, you redo
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the kitchen with all new appliances and granted, and you
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make your house. Now the price tag goes up because
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you put some That's one of the first things I
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thought of, is like, I don't know if upper Deck
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wants to sell to fanatics, but man, even whether they
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do or they don't, I think the price tag just
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went up because not only would would fanatics be buying
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upper Deck, and I don't mean this as the way
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it sounds, but they're sort of buying Michael Jordan too,
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because that would be come with any kind of acquisition
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of upper Deck. So I'll get your your thoughts the agreed, disagree,
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or or how do you see that?
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Well, that's a heck of a piece of granite. Getting
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Michael Jordan's signer you signed with her. I mean, that's
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a heck of a that's a nice piece of granite.
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My friends.
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I mean, look, here's the thing. I love the loyalty
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that Michael is showing with Upper Deck. He's been with
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them for thirty something and that's incredible. How cool would
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it be but Michael Jordan to be next to like
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pulling an actual Michael Jordan card, next to a Steph
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Curry autograph or or somebody else, let's say, or a
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victim m migneff in the same pack. And unfortunately a
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lot of people that will never experience that. On the
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license side, I'm not sure when his last Bulls licensed
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jersey came out.
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I think up card.
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I'm gonna guess it was two thousand and nine when
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Upper Deck lost their basketball contract with ON nine. What
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a lot of people don't know is two thousand and
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nine was such a crazy year Pannini got the NBA
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contract with They have first year making cards and the
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final year for Tops and Upper Deck to have the license,
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so it almost like a transition year. So you have
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upper Deck and O nine Steph Curry rookie year to
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boot right James Harden rookie year. You have a couple
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of really good rookies. With a Stef Curry rook is
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just unbelievable, Tops making a couple of products. Tops not
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making chrome products, including chrome cards in their base product,
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which was super interesting to me. That base product all
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that much more valuable because they didn't take a lot
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of it. And then Upper Deck saying, hey, we're not
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going to make a ton of our products either because
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it's a transition here, but hey we're going to make
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a jumbo product and we're going to build hot cases.
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Nobody even talks about this, that they build hot cases
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around that product, that Upper Deck hobby product where certain boxes,
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every single pack has a hit. So it's very very
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interesting to see the evil and how it go. I
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still get excited ripping open those old boxes and finding
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those treasures that are in there, because my god, there's
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still some really big treasures out there. We pulled a
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Michael Jordan autograph about four weeks ago out of four
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SPX and my god, on card with dual patches, and
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I literally froze the show for like fifteen twenty and
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it's like I just could my first time hitting a
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Michael Jordan autograph online.
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It was just yeah, cool stuff.
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It's gonna be interesting the next few years, right, Joe
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about like transactions in the hobby.
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You know what what happens with Upper Deck.
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If you ask them, they'll tell you like, we're not
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even gonna answer the question because we're not really for
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sale that stuff they have to say, as you know
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in the corporate world. But you you know, uh, you
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never know, uh what could be what could be next?
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And again you know, I'm not gonna lie, like you said,
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it would be nice to see a Jordan card come
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out with a Wemby behind it, right, what you won't
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get now.
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With goodwooden Champion and that sort. So we'll see what
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the future.
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But you can get a numbered Flear pack out of
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twenty three.
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Yeah, that's really cool.
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And I gotta and him signing the actual pack. I
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mean that puts you in a dilemma. And then what
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do you do? Would you would you try opening it?
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I mean it's an expensive back within the autograph.
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Yeah, I only can speak for myself. Jo, I'm probably
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keeping that the way it is. And you know, just
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I guess I said I wouldn't be greedy, right, It's
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lucky I pulled the redemption in the first place. And
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I'm just I'll enjoy the sealed pack and uh, you know,
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the Jordan Auto and if I want a Jordan Rookie
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that bad, I'll just have to you know, buck up
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and save or whatever you have to do to purchase one,
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sell another card I own and get that so and
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keep that sign pack. I just when you think about
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you know, we talk about numbers, and there's only gonna
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be twenty three of them right from that from that product.
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So I'm I'm keeping that clothes now. Eventually, would I
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sell it? Like I you never say never, but you know,
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probably not right away. I'm definitely gonna enjoy that.
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Uh.
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And you know, whether whether I leave it to my
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son or not, I'm obviously talking and hypothetically probably never
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have to worry about. But you know, it'd be a
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nice problem to decide what to do with that should you?
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Should you pull you know, pull that Redemp shit or
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have it pulled for you.
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So it's time for a quick break thoughts. We'll be
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right back.
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Thanks for sticking with us. Let's return to the show.
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Speaking of pulling pulling, you mentioned a couple, Let's talk
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about you and your what Not channel. Just what you do.
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I know you do these twenty four hour live streams.
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I get tired just saying that, but just just just
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talk about everything you do there and sort of you
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know where your channels started and where it is.
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Yeah, sure, so right now we stream live on Whatnot.
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And my Friday night show last thirty six hours straight
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with no breaks on the last Friday night and it
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goes into Sunday morning. And it really was, you know,
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just to you know, cut to the chase. More people
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demanded the show go longer. So when this show started,
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it started literally the one man opera, actually a two
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man operation, me and my son, and then a one
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man operation because he couldn't stay up that long with
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me anymore. He used to fall asleep, and you know,
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the show would end where my battery would die in
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and it went to all these crazy locations in my
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house till we finally dedicated a room for it to
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for us to you know, to build a channel up
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and slowly but surely, you know, we saw our viewership
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rise and you know, I mean just is absolutely absolutely blessed.
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I mean God really did bless us just the best
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community and we had the meteoric rise. And now where
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when we first got started, we have a couple of
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people in the room, now we don't have thousands of
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people in the room in the first few seconds, and
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you know there's something wrong. So we've been incredibly blessed
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for that. And now we love searching for the hardest
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and you know, the biggest treasures in the hobby. That's
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what we do. I go live Tuesday nights into Wednesday
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and Friday nights that go all the way into Sunday.
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So no matter where you are where internationally domestically, you're
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working nights, you work mornings, you're working graveyard shifts, you
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always gonna have an opportunity to turn us on and
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to go for some of the you know, the most
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recognizable names, whether it's hunting for Kobe Autos or Michael
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Joranado's or Tom Brady. It'll all be found on my
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what Not show. Simply just to look up download Whatnot
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and simply look up Joe Hollywood. That's it, Joe Hollywood.
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And I have a second channel called Joe Hollywood Show,
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which is my staff and my breakers, and they will
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go on there. They all have their separate shows, but
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when I go live, it's always me. I never have
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anybody else feel for my show. So when you see
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Joe Hollywood, that means I'm going live on And we
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are on the precipice of crossing over half a million followers,
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which is one of the top accounts on Whatnot. There's
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not a single account right now that has a million followers,
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so we are the most followed account in sports and
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we're very proud about that. And there's not another sports
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tell that has more followers than us, and we are
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the most viewed show on Whatnot and when it comes
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to sport, I'm really excited about that. All it certainly
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has been just been an absolute blessing and looking forward
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to how we can continue to build and see where
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it goes from here. But it never gets dull. It
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seems to me, even in my forties, it gets more
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and more exciting each and every single day, and I
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just wake up happy all the time.
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I do what I love.
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Yeah it's and congrats and kudos there. What do you
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attest the success from? Like if someone ask you what
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I am asking you, like, how did that happen?
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Or what is the like?
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I don't think there's one reason, but like you know,
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obviously you're you're you know, like you said, you're blessed,
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But what do you think? What do you think it
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is if you have to point to only one thing
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or a couple things.
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Hard for me to point to the one thing right.
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I had to get my faith right, I had to
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prioritize God. I had to make sure that my family
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was getting the love that they deserve for me as well.
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But you know, the one thing that I can tell
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you that once you get those things down, one of
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the things that I can tell you that we do
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that I think it's a lot of attention, is that
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we just work hard, and you have to work harder
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than everybody else. And I think that that's a lost
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art I think people have. I think I don't think
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it's everybody, but I think that right now and where
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we live and just how it is, I just kind
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of think like that there's this this premonition that people
484
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are expectant of success and that failure is not an
485
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:09.279
option for anything, whether how much you give to something
486
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or you don't give to something. People just expected only
487
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to succeed at anything and not the.
488
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Way it works. You have to work really hard it's successful.
489
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And we put countless amount of hours just the two
490
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.079
shows alone that we I mean, I'm going live, you
491
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.400
know what's sixty hours, sixty five hours, that's just streaming time.
492
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We're not taking into account you know, our employees and
493
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.200
taking account in and getting products and procuring these products
494
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and then being able to you know, pricing those out
495
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:39.039
and getting the right cards for people and then putting
496
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on a show that's entertaining and exciting. I mean, we
497
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:43.519
don't just put the cards on the table and say hey,
498
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:45.839
they're going to sell themselves like that's a that's a
499
00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.640
really good way to fail. We believe is that it's
500
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:51.440
got to be fun, it's got to be exciting, it's
501
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.279
got to be engaging, and we want to do the
502
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best job that we can. You know, when we make
503
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mistakes all the time. I think if I had a
504
00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:01.000
pinpoint one thing out of everything is that people should
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00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:05.240
expect to fail and be expectant of getting themselves back
506
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.559
up and trying, versus failing and saying that they couldn't
507
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do it, or being afraid to fail and never try.
508
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That's the biggest problem. I think that if you are
509
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.839
somebody that loves something at sports cards, it could be
510
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.759
any go into it knowing that, yes, you're going to
511
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:23.319
fail at at some point or another, something's not going51200:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.559
to go your way, and guess what, that's okay. That51300:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.599
is actually a cornerstone of success. The more times are fail,51400:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.519
the more likely you are to succeed. We've kind of51500:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.839
lost that mentality, and I hate to say that.51600:26:36.839 --> 00:26:37.559
But we really have.51700:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.839
And I really believe that maybe we can start thinking51800:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.960
about that and more people decide that they want to51900:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.039
get into the hobby, that they'd like to be successful52000:26:46.079 --> 00:26:47.759
in the hobby. Just keep that in mind. You know,52100:26:47.799 --> 00:26:49.240
it's going to be a lot of hard work in52200:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.200
the beginning. It's going to be a tremendous amount of52300:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.160
hard work. You just have to outwork everybody and make52400:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.359
sure that you know that you're going to fail more52500:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.000
often than not.52600:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.039
Don't let that get you. Keep your head up.52700:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.039
That's well said, and I agree with that sentiment. Right52800:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.400
there's nobody. I don't care who you are, even the52900:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.319
most successful person in the world. Right, they're not batting53000:27:08.319 --> 00:27:12.640
a thousand. No one bats a thousand. It's never been53100:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.240
that way. It's never really gonna happen. I don't care53200:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.759
who you are, right, And it's a great point if53300:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.480
you kind of go in with that mentality, like there's53400:27:20.519 --> 00:27:24.039
gonna be down points, there's gonna be high points, low points,53500:27:24.279 --> 00:27:24.960
but whatever.53600:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.119
I'm gonna just continue to work hard.53700:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.000
And if I get knocked down, I'm gonna brush myself53800:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.200
off and get back up and it might happen again,53900:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.960
and I'll just keep getting up and be harder to54000:27:36.039 --> 00:27:39.480
knock down. The more time they get up, the knockdowns54100:27:39.519 --> 00:27:43.480
are gonna get fewer as I learned things along the way. So, uh,54200:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.640
it's a it's a great it's a great mindset. I54300:27:46.680 --> 00:27:49.759
think it's very true. And I think sort of if54400:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.240
you can get into that mindset, you'll you'll probably be54500:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.240
I have a better chance at being successful then than not.54600:27:57.559 --> 00:28:01.279
So I concur with that as well.54700:28:01.599 --> 00:28:09.440
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So I got I don't ask this to every guest55600:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.359
on every episode, but you know, if you got your55700:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.759
finger on the post of the hobby, if is there55800:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.880
a hobby pep peeven other words, if you could change55900:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.119
one thing, whether it be add something to the hobby56000:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.559
or take something out of the hobby that you don't like,56100:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.799
or ad bothers you like, what would you change if56200:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.400
if you had the power to change one thing.56300:29:13.759 --> 00:29:16.160
If I have the power to change one thing, it's56400:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.359
not that it's a pet peeve. I would like more56500:29:19.400 --> 00:29:24.880
people to have accessibility to bigger shows across not only56600:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.319
the United States, but across collective. You know, if you're56700:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.200
not available for the national that one week, or you56800:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.119
don't have the means of getting to I mean, I56900:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.000
know it's not always in Chicago, but it feels like57000:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.200
it's always in Chicago, Right, it was last year, is57100:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.759
this year next year? Right, it's perennially in Chicago.57200:29:41.920 --> 00:29:42.039
Right.57300:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.000
But and they do a great job, and they do57400:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.960
it great, But I almill say, like a kid that57500:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.960
grew up that had very meaner mean, I could never57600:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.839
afford to the to the National. Right, I was regulated57700:29:53.920 --> 00:29:57.720
to sports shows that were held in a and you57800:29:57.720 --> 00:30:01.079
know the church basement basis the hell of those shows, right.57900:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.079
And so.58000:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.839
Yeah, yeah, there's Sunday morning sports card shows right after church. Right,58100:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.000
there was eleven to three, twelve to four sports cards,58200:30:13.720 --> 00:30:15.519
And so I guess what I was trying. What I58300:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.400
would try to say is I would love for there58400:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.960
to be And I love what Fanatics Fest is doing.58500:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.519
I think that's great, and I love that they put58600:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.519
they put one up in New York they're doing, but58700:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.960
I'd love to see one every quarter in a different sector.58800:30:29.680 --> 00:30:31.400
Like let the National be the but you know what,58900:30:31.559 --> 00:30:32.200
let's get.59000:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.680
A traveling roadshow for sports cards to go and to59100:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.599
be in certain places that people are going.59200:30:38.680 --> 00:30:38.799
Right.59300:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.440
I don't think it's going to take anything away from59400:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.119
the National. I don't think it's going to take anything59500:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.680
away from tex Fest. But I think it's about time59600:30:44.759 --> 00:30:46.720
that the hobby is big enough that we need more59700:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.480
than one big show a year or two big shows59800:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.759
to satisfy the hobby. I think we're up to one.59900:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.079
And you know what, and rightfully so, I mean, this60000:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.559
is a hobby that's growing exponentially. People always complain that,60100:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.359
you know, they don't get a chance to meet the60200:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.640
other people thoughts, And one of the more people that60300:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.079
you meet in the hobby, the more you're going to60400:31:03.519 --> 00:31:04.960
a lot of great people. And soid I'm not telling60500:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.640
you everybody's great. Not everyone is great, but most of60600:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.519
the people. And I think that that's a good thing.60700:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.079
More that you make it in mainstream, I think the60800:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.000
more that people are going to be attracted to it,60900:31:14.039 --> 00:31:15.559
and more people we are going to attract.61000:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.640
Yeah, well said, I agree, And I want you know,61100:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.759
you mentioned about bringing more people in the hobby, and61200:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.039
I'm sure you'll agree what I'm about to say too, Joe.61300:31:23.400 --> 00:31:24.680
I want them to stay right.61400:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.400
I'm not looking It's not up to me anyway, But61500:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.519
I'm not looking for someone that you know, stays a61600:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.319
couple of years, makes a few bucks and then says61700:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.319
I'm out. I want the people like us who've been61800:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.559
in for the long haul haul. I think that ultimately61900:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.720
shows the strength of the hobby. I think we're seeing62000:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.839
more of that as the hobby does get stronger. So62100:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.160
I echo that I'd like to see the hobby grow,62200:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.240
but with with people who are who want to be62300:31:52.359 --> 00:31:53.759
here for the long haul.62400:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.519
And it's nothing wrong with making money, but it can't62500:31:56.599 --> 00:31:57.640
just be that. Right.62600:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.279
If that's all it is, then as as are someone62700:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.160
who will leave sooner than than later. But if it's62800:32:05.200 --> 00:32:09.480
more than that, whether it's the nostalgia or just the62900:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.359
enjoyment or just being a sports fan and connect and63000:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.440
bridging those two worlds, and and they're in it for63100:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.000
the long haul, that's that's kind of where, you know63200:32:18.039 --> 00:32:19.519
what I want to I agree.63300:32:19.279 --> 00:32:20.480
With that you got to be in it for the63400:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.960
long haul. You've got to have some kind of passion63500:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.279
for it. It can't just be it can't just be63600:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.039
for the money. You've got to be passionate about what63700:32:27.039 --> 00:32:28.519
you do. But I think I conveyed they think that63800:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.079
the people that are in it just for the money.63900:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.440
I think that people see that. I think that that's64000:32:33.559 --> 00:32:35.920
pretty transparent. I think that the people that are passionate64100:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.759
about this always the people are going to.64200:32:37.960 --> 00:32:41.079
Yep, no doubt. Well, Joe, you're a busy guy.64300:32:41.720 --> 00:32:44.400
I don't know when you sleep doing all those long64400:32:44.480 --> 00:32:48.559
live streams, but I appreciate you making some time for64500:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.519
us here on Sports Carnation. We'll have to do it again.64600:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.359
I look forward to meeting you here at the National.64700:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.359
I always give the guests sort of find a word64800:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.720
give out like your what not stuff anyway, anything you64900:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.079
want to share to direct people where to check out65000:33:05.079 --> 00:33:05.680
what you're doing.65100:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.960
Take your time and let people. Well.65200:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.880
It was great to be here, John, I really had65300:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.759
a blast. I hope that we can do this again.65400:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.279
That was I think we just scratched the surface about65500:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.559
what you and I can talk about and speak about65600:33:17.559 --> 00:33:18.440
when it comes to cards.65700:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.079
But if you like to we I was gonna say65800:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.359
we could do a sports show too at that point,65900:33:23.440 --> 00:33:24.640
but yeah.66000:33:24.440 --> 00:33:25.359
We probably could.66100:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.799
Absolutely we could, and just just the New York stories66200:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.519
alone could probably could probably fill the years worth the time.66300:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.759
But if you'd like to find me and find my community,66400:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.720
which happens to me the most generous communities engaging community66500:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.279
in all sports, come find me on Whatnot. Come look66600:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.839
up just down of a whatnot app and type in66700:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.160
Joe Hollywood and I'll come right up. And if you66800:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.039
want to find me on Instagram, which we are on Instagram,66900:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.200
type in the real Joe Hollywood. Pretty simple, the real67000:33:52.279 --> 00:33:53.640
Joe Hollywood on Instagram.67100:33:53.920 --> 00:33:54.200
We are.67200:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.039
Do you have a page on Facebook from the Joe67300:33:56.079 --> 00:34:00.880
Hollywood but real Joe Hollywood on Instagram, Joe Hollywood on whatnot.67400:34:00.920 --> 00:34:02.599
And look forward to seeing all of you there and67500:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.599
being a part of the community and getting involved with67600:34:04.640 --> 00:34:09.119
some of the biggest iconic chases there. It's baseball, basketball, football, hockey,67700:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.119
even soccer. You know, we're making it accessible for every67800:34:12.280 --> 00:34:16.480
passionate sports fan, even WWE, and that's something really exciting.67900:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.280
We'll be we'll be at Finacs Fest, we will be68000:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.880
at the National and then the weekend of the National,68100:34:22.920 --> 00:34:26.039
the last weekend on the National Summer Slam is happening,68200:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.039
and believe it or not, we'll be up there as well.68300:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.679
So we're going to be multitasking. We'll be doing a68400:34:30.719 --> 00:34:33.519
lot of things, and we're excited about it and we're68500:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.119
looking to, you know, bridge that gap between people that68600:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.119
are looking for accessibility to their favorite stars and athletes68700:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.840
and connecting them withoutccess well Joe.68800:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.199
You're busy guy. I don't have to you know that.68900:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.760
I know that most people probably know that. I appreciate69000:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.519
you squeezing us in making some time and really, like69100:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.800
you said, really enjoyed chopping up some some New York69200:34:53.800 --> 00:34:54.480
City stuff.69300:34:54.880 --> 00:34:56.039
The hobby sports.69400:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.599
We probably could have we could have go a lot longer,69500:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.760
but uh, you know, and again you're busy, so I69600:35:03.039 --> 00:35:04.039
we appreciate it.69700:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.559
Uh, see you here very shortly.69800:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.880
I'll see you, assume god blast, I'll talk with you, sir.69900:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.639
All right, thank you, good.70000:35:11.679 --> 00:35:15.119
Time for our hobby is the people announcer.70100:35:14.800 --> 00:35:15.519
Of the week.70200:35:19.119 --> 00:35:23.239
Hello, this is Mark Oyle, and remember the hobby is70300:35:23.400 --> 00:35:24.000
the people.70400:35:24.719 --> 00:35:26.920
If you'd like to be the hobby is the people70500:35:26.960 --> 00:35:30.159
announcer of the week, do a one or MP three70600:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.360
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