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Oct. 9, 2026

Brian Pirrip "Spreading Hobby Love" E409

Brian Pirrip "Spreading Hobby Love" E409
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There are some great hobby ambassadors and advocates and this week's guest is at the top of that list! Brian Pirrip makes his 1st appearance on the podcast.


TALKING POINTS:

*Hobby Beginnings

*What's in your PC?

*Junk Wax era wax rising and more difficult to procure.


*Idea to travel to stadiums,events and card shops to spread hobby love.


*Thoughts on Modern Wax

*M1nt Grading/Encapsulation

*Grading Discussion

*Celebrities in the hobby thoughts

*Guy who turn all his PSA cards to M1nt ones



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Sports Card Nation, the hobby is the people. Weekly news

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and interviews, it's your number one source. Sports Card Nation.

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The hobby is the people.

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Sports Card Nation. What is up everybody? Welcome to episode

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409 of Sports Card Nation. As always, I'm John Newman.

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Want to thank our great sponsors right off the top here. SGC,

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Card Ladder, and the Certified Trading Card Association. All right.

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You've heard me say it once. You've probably heard me

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say it many times. I always enjoy having people on

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the show who are great ambassadors and advocates of For

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this great hobby. Today's guest, it's his first time on

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the show. He is not new to the hobby. And

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he checks both of those boxes. Ambassador and Advocate. Great guy.

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You've probably seen his content. He goes around to live

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events including baseball stadiums. And gives out free packs for

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people to open. And hopefully catch the itch of the hobby.

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And whether they do or not, it's just a great

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thing and also has a company, Mint. They make great

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cases for graded cards and ungraded cards. I want to

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talk about that as well. So who am I talking about?

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Brian Perip. So glad to have Brian on. Really had

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a blast chopping it up with him. So today is

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part one, and next week will be part two. So

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without further ado, let's get this thing rolling.

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Attention, Sports Card Nation viewers.

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What up, kids?

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It's your boy Scott Hanson from.

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NFL Red Zone.

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Oh, we're back.

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Ball is back. The hobby never ends.

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And before you know it, I'm going to be on

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your screen again, rocking that octobox, knocking the bottom out

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of the witching hour, and announcing seven hours of Red

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Zone football. But as you watch Red Zone, just save

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some time. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, to check

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out John. and Sports Card Nation. Let's have a great season, people.

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All right.

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Real happy to have the next gentleman on the Sports

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Card Nation guest line. You know, on this podcast, we

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talk a lot about, or I talk a lot about

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ambassadors and advocates for the hobby. And this guy checks

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all those boxes. I've seen his content. He's out there

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bringing the hobby to the people, whether it be at

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an event, an LCS, the stadiums themselves. Just really, I

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know I just complimented him before we recorded, but I

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also wanted to do it properly today. on the air.

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He's a great ambassador and advocate for the hobby. So

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without further ado, Brian Perp, welcome.

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Hey, thank you so much, John. I really appreciate you.

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First off, thank you for those kind comments, but thanks

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for letting me on your show today.

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Well, thank you for making some time for us. And yeah,

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you know, I like to fancy myself. I might not

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be doing the same things you're exactly doing, obviously, but

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I like to consider myself an ambassador for Right. Like you.

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You are. I love the hobby. I'm passionate. And when

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I see others that are doing that for the right reasons, obviously.

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Right.

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It's very refreshing. Yeah. You know, you know, anytime someone's

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first appearance and hopefully not your only one, but the

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first time on the show, you know, it's the standard

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kind of start off question is kind of. For you,

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when did the hobby start? How did you get into

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the hobby? Who was it? Maybe that was that influence

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that started it all for you.

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Yeah, I love origin story stuff, right? For me, it

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was Beaverton, Oregon, right outside of Nike. I grew up

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10 minutes from Nike World Headquarters. And this was 1987 that.

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My family moved there.

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And my best friend at the time, a kid named

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Chris Nelson, introduced me to baseball cards on the bus

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one day.

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I think it was fourth grade. I think we were

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both like nine years old.

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And I just remember him telling me that, you know,

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here's some pictures of these, you know, these heroes of

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mine and it's also worth money. And here's this Beckett

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magazine and here's how the prices go up and down.

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And I don't know what it was about all that,

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but it just was like, boom. I, it was like,

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I was hooked the moment that I saw the very

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first baseball cards. And then it was my, my mother who,

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Because the one that sticks out, I remember there was

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like a team leaders card from the 1988 Tops with

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Ozzie Smith on it. And I remember thinking, oh, that's cool.

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And he was like, oh, yeah, it's worth like a

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dollar or something. I was like, whoa, that's so cool.

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And so my mom took me to one day after

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soccer practice, she took me to a Fred Meyer grocery

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store and they had some packs of 88 Tops. And

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I remember getting like one or two packs of And, uh,

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finding a Conseco in there. And I remember taking it

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to school, showing my buddies on the bus and at

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recess and thinking, okay, this is, uh, this is the

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coolest thing ever. I don't want to play, uh, tetherball anymore.

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I don't want to play, uh, you know, uh, knockout

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on the field anymore. I want to trade baseball cards

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and learn everything I can. And so I was, that

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was it from age of nine to age of about 14.

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I was all in on cards. Every chance I got,

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I was making money. I was doing lemonade stands. I

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was painting people's house numbers on curbs, mowing old ladies' yards, babysitting,

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doing everything I could to fund my addiction to cardboard.

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And loved it until my family ended up moving to

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Germany when I was 14. Dad was military. And we

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didn't really have the access to the cards. And I

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didn't know anybody that collected cards. And so I lost

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the hobby of Until my life kind of, my career

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life kind of all collapsed around 2009.

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And I was just this total juncture in life. Hadn't

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thought about.

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Cards in, you know, decades or whatever. And I was

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just turning 30. And I remember I read an article

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about the Bash Brothers. It was Conseco and McGuire. And

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all those, as soon as I even saw the name

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Jose Conseco in the print and the name Mark McGuire,

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it was like, I was just, I was like, oh

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my gosh, that old hobby I used to have. And

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I Googled Don Mattingly and Nolan Ryan and the cards

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started popping up. And it was like, it was like

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I was bathing in pure nostalgia energy. And I was like,

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it just, even though I was pretty sad and depressed

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in my life at that moment, kind of trying to

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figure out what next steps were. I didn't care anymore

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because I had rediscovered this lifetime, you know, now hobby.

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That just brings joy. And it's hard to really even understand.

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It wasn't like I was watching these guys play games

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all the time back in the 80s and 90s. I

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learned about them through reading Beckett's or the backs of

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the cards, not by going to games. I learned about

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the sport from the cards, not the other way around.

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And so by the time I was 29, 30 and

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collecting again, I was just rabid.

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And then I discovered, whoa, junk wax, this stuff, I

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can actually afford this stuff still.

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So I'm going to some card shop near my grandmother's

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house And they've got boxes of 89 tops on the wall.

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Man, I'm grabbing that, putting it in the bag.

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Going to my grandmother's home and I'm ripping packs of cards.

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And I'm one of those people where I'm so glad

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junk wax is cheap because I can now, I was

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able to start buying all this stuff. Nostalgia was hitting

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me and that was it. Next thing you know, I'm

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buying Mickey Mantles and such, but like that pure joy

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of this hard to describe nostalgia. That's my kind of

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origin story in cards.

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Yeah. And, you know, it brings us back to where

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it all started.

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Right.

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And, you know, you mentioned living in Germany and at

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that time. But if you were in Germany today, Brian,

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you would have access.

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Yeah.

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As we both know. Right. It's become an international hobby.

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It always has been. But even more so today.

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I did not expect that because when I was 30,

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I ended up finally getting my life put together. I

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applied to business school in England to kind of like

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reset everything. And so I get to England, I'm sitting

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in my dorm room and I'm still Googling everything I can.

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About baseball cards.

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And I've looked all over England at that time in 2009,

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and there were no shops. There was nowhere that I

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could go for cards. And so I'm buying boxes of

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cards on eBay and having.

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Them shipped to my dorm room.

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I remember one of my classmates, the Spanish guy in

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my class caught me one night, I got this big

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cardboard box and I'm like walking back to the dorms.

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And he's like, what do you got in the box? Uh,

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or Brian.

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And I was like, ah, don't worry about it, man.

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He's kept pressing. And I say, ah, I just, I

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got this big shipment of baseball cards. They had 86

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Don Russ in here in 1990 leaf and an 89

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upper deck.

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And he's like, dude, you're nerding out on me. It

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doesn't make sense.

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But I'm in there in my dorm room in England,

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ripping packs of cards. And I was like pig in mud.

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I was happiest I could possibly be.

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And it's, funny you mention it like that way too,

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because I think, you know, even that time period, right,

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there was, it wasn't as cool to collect cards. Like,

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you know, it was only really cool to the fraternity

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that was in it itself. But now times have changed, right?

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We've seen sort of the hobby get embraced by a

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lot of different people, including, you the athletes themselves, celebrities. Shocking. Yeah.

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And so the hobby is in a, a whole new stratosphere, um,

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you know, where you were sort of shy to say

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you collected cards and people didn't get it or didn't understand.

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Yeah.

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I hit it. I didn't tell anybody.

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Now there's probably less people, you know, less people don't

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collect cards than, than many moons ago. Um, For you, like,

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you know, obviously, you know, you're in a better place.

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Like you said, you had a rough period. You're in

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a better place. You're doing well financially. So it's like

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a lot of us, right? We kind of have a

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period where we either stop buying or we, you know,

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move away from having that kind of return. And you

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have maybe hopefully more disposable income. For you, like coming

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back and when you got to that point, You know,

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what do you I know you're very generous with what

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you do in your time. But for you, like, what's

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your PC? What are what is it like? I got

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to have, you know, one of these is staying here.

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I might be nice and give another one away. But

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what is it that you want to keep? What like

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what draws your interest?

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Yeah, thanks.

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I really I collect pretty much all Hall of Fame

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baseball from 1877 to today. That's that's kind of and

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like the base cards. So pretty much every, you know, every,

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you know, from the Goodwin or the Allen and Ginter's

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of 1877 to, you know, Bowman, you know, the most

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last one of the last guys that got in the

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Joe Maurer, his Bowman first auto refractor.

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And so I'm.

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I kind of love it all, but I primarily, in

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order to keep the collection, I didn't want it to

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get insane and take over my entire life and be

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in cards and boxes in every room in the house.

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And so I limited myself to the people I collect.

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And there's more than just the Hall of Famers. I'll

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add like Pete Rose, Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, people that

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I believe should be in the Hall of Fame or

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people that I love.

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And so I collect a kind of a core group

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of people.

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And then it's like from day one, you know, King

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Kelly in 1877 to Joe Maurer, you know, C.C. Sabathia

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or Andrew Jones today. And so whenever somebody gets inducted

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in the Hall of Fame, I go and grab all

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their cards. But I also, like, when I give out

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a lot of product and I'm opening packs for the

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people out on the road, they're usually packs and boxes

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that I love, but I don't really, you know, like,

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Finding another Roger Clemens out of an 85 Donruss box

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doesn't do too much for me anymore. But seeing the

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joy on someone's face when they find the Kirby Puckett

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or the Clemens out of that box, now that makes

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me feel really good. And so it's kind of turned

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into this two-part thing. There's the stuff I do at home,

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and then there's the stuff I do on the road.

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And they're not always connected.

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If people knew how much Bowman Chrome that I ripped

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by myself at my house or F1 product I ripped

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with my fiance, I think they'd be shocked.

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Yeah. And, you know, you mentioned that junk wax era

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was still affordable for a while, even years later, right?

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And it still is. I don't want to, you know,

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misinterpret it. Well, we have saw, you know, I'm sure

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you're well aware of it. We've seen even an increase

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with what those sealed boxes will bring now. What do

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you attribute that to? Obviously, probably demand. People want to

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go back to a time maybe where it all started

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for them. Obviously, the more that gets opened, the less

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that there is closed.

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Yeah.

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That's how that works. You think it's as simple as that?

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Is that why we're seeing recently, especially recently, a series

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jumping with some of those prices on that?

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Chunkwack, Derriwack.

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Junk wax is drying up. Like, uh, I'm partly to

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blame for that. You know, I've had some people actually.

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Get mad at me.

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Yeah.

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I've actually had a lot of people get kind of

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mad at me for that because.

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You know, I'll go and, uh, you know, put some

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posts up about like a specific box. Like, you know, uh,

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I'll do for the last couple of, you know, three,

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four years, I was doing a lot about 89 upper

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deck and, uh, and I ripped a whole case of

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it once on, on camera. And I had all these

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people that were just writing in DM, DM, DMs all saying, Hey, Brian,

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I saw that thing about the Griffey upper deck chase

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you were doing.

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And I went out and bought, you know, X amount

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of boxes.

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And as we were like kind of looking on the

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dates and tracking the prices, we're like, Whoa, we just

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moved the needle because, you know, even two years ago,

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you could get a box of upper deck low for,

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you know, 400, $ 500.

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And now it's like a thousand dollars. And, uh, so, uh, Frankly,

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I think a lot of the social media is to blame.

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I think a lot of people also the.

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Time period, a lot of, you know, millennials and Gen

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Xers are like, hey, that's, you know, I watched, you know,

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all these guys posting about, you know, junk wax.

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You know, there's some really good guys, you know, junk wax, Sal.

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And there's a few, you know, I can't remember all

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the names, but there's like these guys that are all

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hitting junk wax.

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And so people are saying, well, I can go and

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afford that.

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And then people that also, I know a few guys

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that are hoarding it right now because they think junk wax,

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the same thing that's happening to junk that happened to like,

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you know, boxes from the 70s, 80s or 70s, 60s

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and 50s. And also like current product, like Bowman Chrome 2018.

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I think people are hoarding it saying there's going to

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be a day where a box of 89 tops is

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going for hundreds of dollars. There's going to be a

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day where 1990 hoops or 1990 score finding that Bo

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Jackson card is going to be really hard to find.

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So let me scroll it away.

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I know of two guys that are trying to buy

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as much junk wax boxes as possible, and they're hoarding

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it with the kind of idea that they're going to, um,

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they're going to be the beers. They're going to restrict

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the supply and be able to leak it out over time.

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So I've already seen it happen. I I've, I used,

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I've gone to probably five, 600 card shops over the

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last four or five years. And you used to always

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see junk wax, big piles of it at most card

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shops on tables that have little signs, $ 10, $ 20, you

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pick whatever. And now I walk into most card shops

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and I go, where's the, you know, do you have

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any junk wax? And they're like, well, we actually don't

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carry it.

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We don't have it anymore. Or here it is.

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But that's that box of 87 tops is $ 150 now

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wrapped by BBC.

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And so you're just like, wow, it's definitely changing.

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Like over the last five years, I've seen a huge, uh,

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decreasing the amount of junk wax out there and the

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prices have started, you know.

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To go up.

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I bought a box of 79 tops about seven years

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ago for like $ 700. And now it's, you know, that's

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a $ 5, 000 box, that sort of thing.

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So it's crazy. And that's not junk box, but you

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know what I mean?

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Yeah. You know, people will speculate, like you mentioned a

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couple of people that, you know, personally are buying it

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when they can and just kind of sitting on it.

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And that happens in a lot of different hobbies. So,

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you know, I get it. But I think, too, that nostalgia,

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you know, I think people and, you know, as you know, right,

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most products are rookie driven. And we're seeing a lot

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of people kind of go back to these, you know,

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nostalgic years and say, man, I remember pulling that 89

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upper deck. I want to I want to relive that

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again now. It's just going to cost you a little

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bit more probably to do it. But, you know, when

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you think about it, too, the dollar was, you know,

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worth less than so or, you know, but it still

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cost you in the time to know upper deck packs

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weren't cheap in 89. Yeah. You know, either they were

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one of the most expensive products. So like a lot

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of change and still stuff remains the same. And, you know,

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when did you get the idea like to like, hey,

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I'm going to go. And like you said, you visited

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500 or 600. I don't know where you get the energy,

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but you visited, you know, 500 or 600 LCS. When

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did it feel like, hey, I'm going to bring the

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hobby to people directly, whether it be at an LCS

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or an event or the stadium, you're handing out packs.

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You know, is that just in your genes? Like, I'm

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a generous guy. This is what I want to do. Like, where?

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Where did that come from? That's just who I am.

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Anybody who's ever really knows me knows that who I

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am on camera is 100% exactly who I am when

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nobody's watching or when I'm just with my friends. That's

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why it's been, I think, so successful is I don't

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have to act. I don't have to put on any show.

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It is exactly who I am. And it kind of

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like with the card shops, it's actually funny. In fact,

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I'm going to switch hats for this one, okay? This

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one we're going to go... Now we're matching.

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Yeah, now we're matching.

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We're bringing back the Brooklyn Dodgers team.

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There we go.

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But it was actually that same time when I was

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living in England in 2009 and 10 and I had

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a problem with my visa and I had to fly

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back to the States to go and update my visa.

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And I was in Brooklyn for just for one day.

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But I was so curious about baseball cards and I

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took I trained to a card shop back then. There

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was a place called, I think it was the dugout.

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And it was this, I love that shop.

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I walked in, I can't remember the name of the

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guy that was running it, but he had a bunch

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of junk wax there and I had no money. And

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I went there and I took my camera and I

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kind of filmed myself.

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I was like the OG vlogger. I have like 10,000 videos.

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Clips over the, since I, from, since 2003, I've always

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been a journaler. I like filming video clips as I go,

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you know, wherever. And so I go into the dugout

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and I filmed myself kind of talking about cards there

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and ripping some packs with the guys in the shop. And,

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you know, and I was, I was genuinely searching for

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like an 88 McGuire tops, like the, the all-star rookie cup.

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And that was what I was like, so excited to

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find that I found it. The guys actually, uh, we

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ended up, you know, going and watching a Rangers game

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together down the street. And, uh, and so that kind

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of got me hooked because I, I, what I did

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at that card shop is I would, even though I

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had the box, I handed out some packs to the

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other people that were in there to kind of pull

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them into it.

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And so.

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My career throughout my 30s was all involved where I

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had to travel around the country a lot. And anywhere

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I traveled, I would always duck into card shops as

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a way to get to know the local people.

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You know, if I'm in Oklahoma, I'm going into a

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card shop. If I'm in New Orleans, I'm going to

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a card shop. And whenever I would go to these.

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Card shops, I would usually, you know, slink and slink

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out to go to my hotel or rip a box.

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But sometimes I'd open the box there and I'd pull

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people in and start doing so. So what I do

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on camera, It has been something I've done since 2009.

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You know, and then the whole thing with like the

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baseball games, that was actually totally by accident. It was

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I was walking in with a box of 89 tops

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one day to it was a Dodgers game in L.A.

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And I'm walking down with two of my buddies.

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We got a 89 tops. We're just going to rip

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some pack. We watch the game. No big deal.

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And as I'm walking down the upper deck to get

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to our seats, some guy shouts out, hey, is that

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a box of tops?

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And I said, yeah. He goes, can I have one?

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And I said, yeah, sure. There's 36 packs.

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Here you go.

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Here's a pack.

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And it was like there was just an explosion of

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people instantly. Everyone's up on their feet asking for packs.

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And I start, you know, my very first time, I

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just start chucking them into people and like identifying people,

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throwing it to them, looking for the person, throwing it

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to them.

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And we, before you know it, I've completely, you know,

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the whole box is gone.

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I felt like a guy who had gone to the

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beach with a whole loaf of bread and there are

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all these seagulls, right? I'm just, you know, seagulls are

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flying in everywhere. And that's how it was with the packs.

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So I get down to my seat and I got

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this broken, empty box. And I looked at my, my

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buddy who luckily my buddy, Sam, he ended up filming

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most of that exchange. We get down to our seats

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and we're like, what just happened? And we're like, we

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got to do that again. And so the next game

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we went to, we brought in a couple, this time

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we brought in like two boxes and we realized that

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people just, you know, obviously people always love free stuff.

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That's why, you know, you know, they're shooting the shirt

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cannon into the crowd and people are going nuts for it.

472
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But what I discovered is when I would give out

473
00:23:40.299 --> 00:23:42.640
packs of games for the rest of the game, you

474
00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:44.930
would see like the kids down in the, in the

475
00:23:44.970 --> 00:23:47.130
stands and they'd be like trading cards with each other

476
00:23:47.569 --> 00:23:50.190
and like reading the backs of the cards. And, And

477
00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:52.410
people would always come up afterwards and be like, thanks

478
00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:54.660
for doing that. You made today a lot more fun.

479
00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.099
And so it just became kind of a thing I

480
00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:00.660
do now. And I can't imagine going to a game

481
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.180
and not throwing out packs now. It's just kind of

482
00:24:03.299 --> 00:24:04.279
second nature now.

483
00:24:04.339 --> 00:24:05.099
And it's a lot of fun.

484
00:24:05.500 --> 00:24:07.380
And I've had people write me later and said, hey,

485
00:24:07.420 --> 00:24:09.980
I saw you at a game. And the pack you

486
00:24:10.029 --> 00:24:12.309
gave me brought me back to my childhood. And now

487
00:24:12.509 --> 00:24:14.490
I'm collecting cards. In fact, I just bought my first

488
00:24:14.529 --> 00:24:17.869
Mickey Mantle. That's kind of a comment I get pretty regularly,

489
00:24:17.930 --> 00:24:20.039
like a DM or whatever. It's been a fun experience.

490
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.160
Yeah, that's awesome, man. And that stuff's contagious, as you

491
00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:27.680
very well know, right? And, you know, it brings back

492
00:24:27.740 --> 00:24:31.369
that itch. Like you just told the one person, hey,

493
00:24:31.390 --> 00:24:38.009
I grabbed the Mickey Mantle. I'm in now. And teams

494
00:24:38.029 --> 00:24:40.890
do do it. Teams and stadiums do do it. But

495
00:24:40.930 --> 00:24:42.670
I think they could do more. They could take a

496
00:24:42.730 --> 00:24:46.119
page from your book, Brian, and do more of that, like,

497
00:24:46.539 --> 00:24:48.940
You know, I know they do that a lot with bobbleheads,

498
00:24:49.299 --> 00:24:52.519
but even the card companies themselves, I like to see

499
00:24:52.619 --> 00:24:55.920
them do more, like whether it be, you know, the

500
00:24:55.980 --> 00:25:00.430
first 5,000 people through the turnstiles get a pack or whatever,

501
00:25:00.849 --> 00:25:04.589
or a promo pack or whatever, you know, the promotion is.

502
00:25:04.670 --> 00:25:06.730
And I know some, I don't want to say that

503
00:25:06.789 --> 00:25:09.029
it doesn't happen at all, but I think I'd like

504
00:25:09.069 --> 00:25:10.170
to see more of that.

505
00:25:11.250 --> 00:25:13.579
Yeah, I totally think that needs to happen.

506
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.559
You know, I remember Topps sent me out, like, five

507
00:25:16.619 --> 00:25:18.859
boxes one time and they said, we love what you're doing.

508
00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:21.920
Here's five more boxes of kind of modern product. And

509
00:25:21.980 --> 00:25:24.119
so I went to a couple of games and handed

510
00:25:24.180 --> 00:25:27.640
out modern, you know, tops product and people loved it.

511
00:25:27.910 --> 00:25:29.470
And so I told tops, I'm like, Hey, that was

512
00:25:29.509 --> 00:25:32.269
a winner. Like, and we, one of the posts had,

513
00:25:32.289 --> 00:25:34.349
you know, a couple million views on it. And so

514
00:25:34.369 --> 00:25:36.460
I was, I told tops, I'm like, whenever you're ready, man,

515
00:25:36.740 --> 00:25:40.519
I'm happy to kind of, you know, uh, send some

516
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:45.579
stuff out into the crowd for you. I can deputize

517
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.960
people and have people across the country that are doing

518
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:48.619
similar stuff.

519
00:25:50.180 --> 00:25:51.960
People love it and I'm not going to stop doing

520
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.339
it anytime soon. It's fun.

521
00:25:54.299 --> 00:25:59.480
That's awesome to hear. For the card manufacturers, it's a

522
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.480
tax write-off. It's a win-win.

523
00:26:02.539 --> 00:26:03.880
It's a tax write-off for them.

524
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:10.819
It's a great being a great ambassador for the hobby

525
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.359
and no one loses really there. I mean, even if,

526
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:16.920
even if the pack's not great, it was free. So

527
00:26:16.940 --> 00:26:18.500
what do you, you know?

528
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.039
Well, that's the thing is, is everyone loves opening a pack.

529
00:26:22.099 --> 00:26:24.400
I don't care who you are, how rich you are,

530
00:26:24.420 --> 00:26:28.789
how poor you are, what's your socioeconomic level, your race, whatever.

531
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.369
Everyone loves opening a pack. It's a hundred percent of

532
00:26:32.410 --> 00:26:32.730
the time.

533
00:26:33.470 --> 00:26:36.859
It's just, there's something magic about it, especially when, You know,

534
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:38.440
that's why I like kind of the junk wax stuff

535
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:39.960
is that it transports people.

536
00:26:39.980 --> 00:26:41.319
You know, the second they see.

537
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.029
The name Nolan Ryan or Don Mattingly on a card, boom,

538
00:26:45.410 --> 00:26:47.809
they just time traveled to their childhood.

539
00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:48.789
It happens every time.

540
00:26:48.849 --> 00:26:52.069
And I've seen that moment cross so many people's faces.

541
00:26:52.690 --> 00:26:55.089
And every time it's really special. I've gotten to observe

542
00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:57.289
that where people just, boom, they're childlike again. It's like

543
00:26:57.309 --> 00:27:01.000
that scene from Ratatouille. Remember the scene where the guy,

544
00:27:01.019 --> 00:27:04.299
the evil critic guy has a bite of his childhood

545
00:27:04.339 --> 00:27:07.740
favorite food. And it like sucks him back into his,

546
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.680
his childhood. And he sees all these old memories.

547
00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:13.640
That's how it is. Every single time I give someone

548
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.259
a pack to open without question.

549
00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:18.859
Yeah. We've talked about, you know, some of that, that

550
00:27:18.940 --> 00:27:22.720
error of, of product kind of the prices have went up,

551
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.920
you know, how do you, you know, do you have

552
00:27:25.940 --> 00:27:28.759
like a source to give out the secret sauce?

553
00:27:28.900 --> 00:27:29.539
No, no.

554
00:27:30.049 --> 00:27:33.190
You know, to me, like I would, with what you're doing,

555
00:27:33.509 --> 00:27:36.250
I would, I would hope there's some people, Hey, like Brian,

556
00:27:36.269 --> 00:27:39.849
I appreciate you. And like, I can do this at

557
00:27:39.910 --> 00:27:42.490
this level. Cause I know you're doing it for the

558
00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:46.059
right reasons. You're not necessarily buying it from me for

559
00:27:46.059 --> 00:27:49.180
30 bucks and then trying to resell it for a

560
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:50.720
hundred or, or, you.

561
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:52.180
Know, yeah, that sort of thing.

562
00:27:52.420 --> 00:27:54.940
Do you have people like that who are like, Hey,

563
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:58.359
I love what you're doing. let me help out or

564
00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.980
let me contribute here.

565
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.220
It is amazing how many people have been so generous

566
00:28:04.259 --> 00:28:06.849
to me. Like I do get messages from people all

567
00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:08.410
over the world that go, Hey, I want to.

568
00:28:08.349 --> 00:28:09.049
Send you some cards.

569
00:28:09.789 --> 00:28:14.250
And, and frankly, it's just, um, it's just challenging to

570
00:28:14.289 --> 00:28:16.529
make happen. And also I hate seeing people spend so

571
00:28:16.549 --> 00:28:18.990
much money for shipping, you know? And so a lot

572
00:28:19.009 --> 00:28:21.220
of times it's just not worth it. You ship a

573
00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:25.140
$ 20 box for $ 25. It just kind of defeats the point. Um,

574
00:28:25.660 --> 00:28:28.509
And so I, I, most people, most people, whenever they

575
00:28:28.569 --> 00:28:31.349
offer to send me free stuff, I, I thank them, uh,

576
00:28:31.410 --> 00:28:33.569
thank them for their generosity and say, Hey man, I'm

577
00:28:33.609 --> 00:28:36.509
just going to give this stuff away. And, uh, and

578
00:28:36.710 --> 00:28:40.210
you know, sorry, but I don't actually have a wax supplier.

579
00:28:40.349 --> 00:28:44.410
Like I don't like, uh, I, um, I usually will

580
00:28:44.450 --> 00:28:46.549
go and pick it up wherever I can. But part

581
00:28:46.589 --> 00:28:49.789
of the problem, man, is that My company meant like

582
00:28:50.049 --> 00:28:52.599
every like I got into this thing about, you know,

583
00:28:52.630 --> 00:28:55.740
we've sold now like over 50,000 of our hobby cases,

584
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:57.579
which is our entry level product.

585
00:28:57.980 --> 00:29:00.779
And I thought it would be fun about maybe six

586
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:01.380
months ago.

587
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:03.599
I thought it would be fun to put a pack

588
00:29:03.619 --> 00:29:05.799
of junk wax into every single order that we ship.

589
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.960
You know, it's like a little flourish. So if somebody

590
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.380
buys a case and now I stick a pack of

591
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:14.690
junk wax in there. And so my junk wax empire

592
00:29:14.710 --> 00:29:18.549
that I had at my place, man, it's gone. I

593
00:29:18.950 --> 00:29:22.029
gave away like 20,000 or so packs of junk wax.

594
00:29:22.549 --> 00:29:26.049
And so I don't have any anymore. And so I'm

595
00:29:26.130 --> 00:29:27.730
trying to actually find.

596
00:29:29.029 --> 00:29:33.369
Caches of 88 tops, 89 tops, 91 score, whatever I

597
00:29:33.410 --> 00:29:35.849
can get my hands on because I love giving it

598
00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:38.029
away at games. I love giving away it on the road.

599
00:29:38.069 --> 00:29:41.019
And I love adding a pack or two into orders

600
00:29:41.220 --> 00:29:43.500
as I ship them out to people so it's just

601
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:45.660
kind of been a fun flourish so yeah I don't

602
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.900
know where the junk wax is if somebody knows let

603
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.230
me know where the unopened box of wax packs are.

604
00:29:50.849 --> 00:29:54.029
Someone's sitting on a big tall stack somewhere somewhere. You

605
00:29:54.069 --> 00:29:57.410
don't need all of it. Hook Brian up. He's giving

606
00:29:57.430 --> 00:30:02.859
it away. It's done for all the right reasons. You've

607
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.480
been to some events and you've even interacted with the

608
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:12.400
athletes themselves that are on these pieces of cardboard. Is

609
00:30:12.420 --> 00:30:15.059
there any athletes like, oh my God, I'm talking to

610
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:20.339
so-and-so or I'm having... I get asked that too because

611
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:23.460
I've met a lot of celebrities or athletes. You know,

612
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.940
if someone asked me, like, John, who would get you, like,

613
00:30:27.009 --> 00:30:30.549
in awe or tongue-tied? And I'm a pretty outgoing and

614
00:30:30.609 --> 00:30:34.089
social guy, so my answer is usually probably not many.

615
00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:36.289
But I think Michael, I've never met him, but I

616
00:30:36.329 --> 00:30:40.049
think Michael Jordan would do that to me right off

617
00:30:40.089 --> 00:30:43.299
the top of my head. You know, is there anyone

618
00:30:43.410 --> 00:30:46.299
for you? I know probably, you know, all of them

619
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:49.900
in some sort of way because they're great at athlete

620
00:30:50.109 --> 00:30:52.769
and whatnot, but is there anyone that you either met

621
00:30:52.890 --> 00:30:55.670
or haven't met that, that make you feel like that?

622
00:30:56.150 --> 00:30:57.450
Yeah. Great question.

623
00:30:57.869 --> 00:31:01.710
Um, my, my first kind of, I did, I had my, my,

624
00:31:02.009 --> 00:31:03.490
it was kind of like I had my very first

625
00:31:03.990 --> 00:31:07.099
fan boy moment, uh, which was I met up with, uh,

626
00:31:07.299 --> 00:31:09.559
so my two favorite car, uh, players when I was

627
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:11.619
a kid in the early days of being a kid,

628
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.700
it was Mark Grace. And then when Ken Griffey jr.

629
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.220
Came out, it was, it became Ken Griffey jr. And so, uh,

630
00:31:17.529 --> 00:31:19.509
And then Conseco would be kind of the third in there.

631
00:31:19.789 --> 00:31:21.970
So those were my kind of three players from childhood

632
00:31:22.130 --> 00:31:25.359
that were important to me. And so the very first

633
00:31:25.470 --> 00:31:29.059
athlete I met actually was when I very first started

634
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.579
doing social media five years ago.

635
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:32.839
And I came across Mark Grace.

636
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:38.690
And I definitely, that was a real fanboy moment for me.

637
00:31:38.829 --> 00:31:42.630
Because here's a guy that I literally had his poster

638
00:31:42.789 --> 00:31:46.220
on my wall. As a kid, I had Canseco, Griffey,

639
00:31:46.380 --> 00:31:49.019
you know, and Grace. And I'm like, oh, my gosh,

640
00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:51.640
I am ripping packs. So I brought Mark Grace a

641
00:31:51.779 --> 00:31:53.559
box of 88 Dawn Rust for the two of us

642
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.680
to open. And I ended up spending like an hour

643
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.519
with him because he just went.

644
00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:00.099
So slowly through the cards.

645
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.660
Everyone's used to just ripping through cards until you find

646
00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:05.359
the card you're looking for. But Mark Grace, he went

647
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.309
card by card by card. One at a time to

648
00:32:08.349 --> 00:32:10.359
tell me a story about every single guy in the

649
00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:12.000
one pack. We only made it through one pack in

650
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.240
an hour. And so I ended up gifting him the

651
00:32:15.259 --> 00:32:17.660
rest of the box. And I had one of his

652
00:32:17.740 --> 00:32:21.519
rookie cards, like the FLIR update that I had when

653
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.599
I was a kid. And I put it into a

654
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:25.869
nice case and I gave it to him because I

655
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:27.269
asked him, do you have any of your rookie cards?

656
00:32:27.369 --> 00:32:29.789
And I remember getting in and he said he didn't.

657
00:32:30.049 --> 00:32:31.930
And he goes, oh, that's my first rookie card I

658
00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:33.730
have of myself is the one that you had when

659
00:32:33.750 --> 00:32:35.579
you were a kid. And I always think that's kind

660
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.319
of cool that Mark Grace's rookie card at his house

661
00:32:38.460 --> 00:32:40.160
is the one that I gave him. But I get

662
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.140
into the car and I was just like, what just happened?

663
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.690
It was definitely my big fan boy moment. And then

664
00:32:46.710 --> 00:32:48.210
it was about a year and.

665
00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:51.289
A half later. It's funny, the guy that I was

666
00:32:51.410 --> 00:32:53.190
most excited to meet was Ken Griffey Jr.

667
00:32:53.609 --> 00:32:57.829
But it's amazing how within seconds, I didn't feel like

668
00:32:57.869 --> 00:32:59.480
I was hanging out with Ken Griffey Jr. I felt

669
00:32:59.500 --> 00:33:01.039
like I was just hanging out with this really cool dude.

670
00:33:01.420 --> 00:33:03.539
And he invited me to come. You know, we had

671
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:06.319
this three hour dinner. You know, we're hanging out till

672
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.960
one o'clock in the morning talking about cars and race

673
00:33:09.009 --> 00:33:11.190
cars and having a great time. And he's like, hey,

674
00:33:11.230 --> 00:33:12.730
come over to my place for a barbecue in a

675
00:33:12.750 --> 00:33:15.069
couple of weeks. And so I know what it's like

676
00:33:15.089 --> 00:33:18.069
to sit down in Griffey's kind of man cave ripping.

677
00:33:18.730 --> 00:33:22.630
I ripped a box of like 92 Bowman with him. And,

678
00:33:22.970 --> 00:33:25.450
you know, we're sitting there talking cards, talking about who's

679
00:33:25.490 --> 00:33:26.930
in the Hall of Fame, who shouldn't be in the

680
00:33:26.950 --> 00:33:29.470
Hall of Fame. And so Griffey kind of I never

681
00:33:29.990 --> 00:33:32.039
felt a single drop of the, you know, that kind

682
00:33:32.059 --> 00:33:35.680
of fanatic feeling. It was I think the Mark Grace

683
00:33:35.740 --> 00:33:38.539
thing just kind of like, you know, ended that for me.

684
00:33:38.579 --> 00:33:40.240
And so when I met Griffey and now I've met,

685
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.799
you know, a lot of the guys, it just doesn't

686
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.380
really do it anymore. I mean, I recognize this is

687
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.079
a great talent and I'm super excited to meet them.

688
00:33:48.710 --> 00:33:52.670
I think the one person I think could do that

689
00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:55.009
that I haven't met yet, the one guy that I'm

690
00:33:55.190 --> 00:33:57.289
still looking forward to spending a little time with is

691
00:33:57.309 --> 00:33:59.509
Don Mattingly. So I think if I had met up

692
00:33:59.529 --> 00:34:02.509
with Don Mattingly, I'd probably have a bit of that reaction.

693
00:34:02.849 --> 00:34:05.809
But I can honestly say I know what it's like

694
00:34:05.829 --> 00:34:08.110
to rip a box of 89 Upper Deck with Ken

695
00:34:08.130 --> 00:34:08.730
Griffey Jr.

696
00:34:09.110 --> 00:34:13.389
In his house, and that is a pretty special feeling.

697
00:34:13.750 --> 00:34:15.329
But I have to tell you this as a side

698
00:34:15.369 --> 00:34:18.650
note to that is– So one of the coolest things

699
00:34:18.849 --> 00:34:22.409
ever I've done with cards was actually about four, five

700
00:34:22.429 --> 00:34:25.969
days ago, I went to Atlanta and sat down with

701
00:34:26.489 --> 00:34:30.590
Dale Murphy at my favorite barbecue spot in Atlanta. And

702
00:34:30.610 --> 00:34:34.539
so I'm sitting there with Dale and his wife and my,

703
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.800
one of my favorite people in the industry, Nate Burns

704
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:42.820
from Grand Slam collectibles had donated a box of 1977 tops.

705
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:44.800
So I sit.

706
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.579
Down with Dale Murphy, his wife, a box of 1977

707
00:34:48.579 --> 00:34:52.429
tops and Dale and his wife open every single pack

708
00:34:52.489 --> 00:34:54.969
out of that box over the next three hours after

709
00:34:55.010 --> 00:34:58.909
we finished our barbecue. And they've got stories for days

710
00:34:59.090 --> 00:35:02.150
about every person in there. And, uh, you know, we

711
00:35:02.190 --> 00:35:05.070
filmed absolutely everything. And so I'm going to be releasing

712
00:35:05.090 --> 00:35:08.590
that in the next few weeks, but ripping a box

713
00:35:08.650 --> 00:35:12.070
of 77 tops with Dale Murphy at my favorite barbecue

714
00:35:12.090 --> 00:35:15.380
place in Atlanta is ranks pretty, pretty high on the

715
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.179
cool stuff that I've had an opportunity to do. That was,

716
00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:20.469
that was beyond special. And I can't wait to share

717
00:35:20.510 --> 00:35:22.409
that with everyone. You're going to lose your mind when

718
00:35:22.449 --> 00:35:25.510
you see Dale ripping into packs and telling.

719
00:35:25.289 --> 00:35:27.170
Stories about each of the guys he comes across.

720
00:35:27.650 --> 00:35:30.510
Yeah. And you mentioned, you know, I mean, Griffey Jr.

721
00:35:30.570 --> 00:35:32.889
is actually one of my favorite guys, even though I'm

722
00:35:32.929 --> 00:35:35.909
not necessarily a Mariners or Reds fan. He was just,

723
00:35:36.250 --> 00:35:38.670
just the things he did and just the joy he

724
00:35:38.730 --> 00:35:42.219
had playing as a baseball player for Yeah. Myself. Just

725
00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:45.480
you could see he loved what he was doing. Like

726
00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:48.320
he I've heard him say, you know, he likes the

727
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.159
money he made, but he probably would have played for

728
00:35:50.219 --> 00:35:56.510
free anyways. And, you know, and Mark Grace, you know,

729
00:35:56.550 --> 00:35:59.630
I don't think that's a guy or stretch of time.

730
00:35:59.670 --> 00:36:02.829
He was probably based, you know, MLB is one of

731
00:36:02.869 --> 00:36:04.110
their best pure hitters.

732
00:36:04.710 --> 00:36:04.889
Yeah.

733
00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:05.309
I know.

734
00:36:05.429 --> 00:36:06.510
Biggest hitter in the 90s.

735
00:36:07.030 --> 00:36:07.329
Yeah.

736
00:36:07.489 --> 00:36:11.639
Some injuries can derail you. And Murphy, I think, I

737
00:36:11.659 --> 00:36:13.389
think he's a Hall of Famer. When you look at

738
00:36:13.469 --> 00:36:13.989
the numbers.

739
00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:16.429
He needs to be in the hall. I'm going to

740
00:36:16.449 --> 00:36:18.829
be petitioning to get him into the hall. Absolutely. He

741
00:36:18.849 --> 00:36:19.449
belongs there.

742
00:36:19.570 --> 00:36:23.829
One of the nicest guys too. You know, I've never

743
00:36:23.849 --> 00:36:27.039
heard anyone say anything bad about him. Not, not a peep.

744
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.579
So he's a good guy and he's got the stats

745
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.519
to be in there with certain players. Like, you know,

746
00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:34.960
I love a lot of the guys, Harold Baines, you know,

747
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.269
Jeff Kent, uh, You know, Lee Simmons, all really good players.

748
00:36:39.329 --> 00:36:42.989
But if all these guys are in, Dale Murphy should

749
00:36:43.010 --> 00:36:43.769
be in, no question.

750
00:36:43.809 --> 00:36:46.530
No, I agree. And that's, again, not like you say,

751
00:36:46.570 --> 00:36:48.769
not a slight to them. But when those guys get

752
00:36:48.869 --> 00:36:52.429
in and then you look at Murphy's resume, it's like,

753
00:36:52.469 --> 00:36:53.449
how does that happen?

754
00:36:53.849 --> 00:36:54.889
How does that happen?

755
00:36:55.070 --> 00:36:55.309
Yeah.

756
00:36:55.349 --> 00:36:56.849
You know, I plan on advocating for that.

757
00:36:56.869 --> 00:36:59.659
A lot of it's position-based, Brian. A lot of it's position-based.

758
00:36:59.699 --> 00:37:03.559
You know, Kent and Kent's case, second base. And there's

759
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:05.280
not a lot of big-time stuff.

760
00:37:05.380 --> 00:37:05.559
Yeah.

761
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.760
Compared to other positions, you will.

762
00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:12.860
Well, I'm fairly certain that Murphy's the only guy that's

763
00:37:12.889 --> 00:37:16.090
had two MVPs that isn't in the hall, that doesn't

764
00:37:16.130 --> 00:37:17.409
have an asterisk next to his name.

765
00:37:18.289 --> 00:37:20.530
You know, I would ask a voter, like, what is it?

766
00:37:21.250 --> 00:37:22.989
Why are you not voting for this guy? Like, if

767
00:37:23.010 --> 00:37:26.250
you can explain. The same reason you have to explain, like,

768
00:37:26.329 --> 00:37:29.309
why I voted. I almost feel like the people, you know,

769
00:37:29.349 --> 00:37:31.849
the voters who don't, I almost feel like they should

770
00:37:31.909 --> 00:37:35.179
explain what is it that they can't. Yeah. Check that box.

771
00:37:36.099 --> 00:37:40.010
Well, my my one belief about Murphy that about that

772
00:37:40.050 --> 00:37:43.309
topic is that he's such a humble guy, such a

773
00:37:43.369 --> 00:37:46.010
nice guy. And if I think anybody were to ask him, like,

774
00:37:46.030 --> 00:37:47.289
do you want to be in the Hall of Fame?

775
00:37:47.510 --> 00:37:49.769
You know, well, you know, if it happens, it happens.

776
00:37:49.809 --> 00:37:52.639
Whereas I think the hall really wants people that are like,

777
00:37:52.860 --> 00:37:54.320
I really believe I should be in the hall.

778
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.380
I want to be in the hall. I should be there.

779
00:37:56.780 --> 00:37:59.219
And I don't think that Dale's ever done that. And so,

780
00:38:00.139 --> 00:38:01.960
you know, he's just he's that kind of guy. He's

781
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.260
a really humble, nice guy. And so I think it's

782
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.989
going to, you know, I think Dale should be a

783
00:38:07.010 --> 00:38:09.389
bit more vocal about, you know, sharing that, hey, I

784
00:38:09.409 --> 00:38:11.309
should be in there. And then I think, you know,

785
00:38:11.329 --> 00:38:15.309
he's got until December of 2028 for the next vote.

786
00:38:15.849 --> 00:38:18.570
And I think him, his family, you know, and some

787
00:38:18.590 --> 00:38:22.909
other people, including myself, should advocate for that. Because I

788
00:38:22.929 --> 00:38:25.110
think every, I mean, he's the one guy, like when

789
00:38:25.130 --> 00:38:27.139
I go through a pack of cards with people and

790
00:38:27.179 --> 00:38:29.400
I go over a lot of those players and people

791
00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:30.679
just don't, they don't notice.

792
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:31.260
They're like, oh yeah.

793
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.380
Most people don't even know Ted Simmons is in the

794
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.340
Hall of Fame. But whenever I come across a Dale

795
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.219
Murphy card and people see him on there, everyone's like,

796
00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:40.880
he should be in the Hall.

797
00:38:40.900 --> 00:38:41.480
He should be in the Hall.

798
00:38:41.699 --> 00:38:43.849
Every comment is, he should be in the Hall. And

799
00:38:43.889 --> 00:38:46.769
so I think it's pretty unanimous. It needs to happen.

800
00:38:47.269 --> 00:38:49.130
I think it's going to happen. Sorry, I got way

801
00:38:49.230 --> 00:38:50.329
off topic.

802
00:38:50.949 --> 00:38:53.369
I think it eventually does. I think same thing with

803
00:38:53.409 --> 00:38:56.550
Pete Rose. I think, unfortunately, they were waiting for him

804
00:38:56.610 --> 00:38:57.550
to pass away.

805
00:38:57.809 --> 00:39:01.110
He'll be in soon. Matter of time. Matter of time.

806
00:39:01.389 --> 00:39:03.469
You know, and I look at it now too, Brian,

807
00:39:03.849 --> 00:39:07.969
baseball's aligned themselves with, with, you know, betting services and

808
00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:12.300
draft Kings and fan do. So, and, and I believe

809
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.690
P when he said, you know, I never bet against him.

810
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.500
I bet for him. And I get it. I think

811
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.539
he served his penance. I know he's no longer with us. Yeah.

812
00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:24.530
You know, the guy has more hits than anyone in

813
00:39:24.550 --> 00:39:25.090
the history.

814
00:39:25.130 --> 00:39:26.550
He should be in the hall.

815
00:39:26.969 --> 00:39:29.130
Everyone knows he should be in the hall, especially like

816
00:39:29.170 --> 00:39:30.940
what you said, the current, when you think of the

817
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.199
current events of today and also there's a new movie

818
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.780
coming out with him uh you know i think that's

819
00:39:36.820 --> 00:39:39.949
coming out this next year so my guess is i've

820
00:39:39.989 --> 00:39:42.090
always thought that the hall wasn't really sure what to

821
00:39:42.150 --> 00:39:43.570
do they were kind of a damned if they do

822
00:39:43.610 --> 00:39:45.289
damned if they don't i think they were caught in

823
00:39:45.329 --> 00:39:47.590
kind of a pickle didn't know entirely what to do

824
00:39:48.010 --> 00:39:48.710
But they all know.

825
00:39:48.849 --> 00:39:51.030
They all know. Well, I think.

826
00:39:50.949 --> 00:39:53.699
It came down to, I think some of the commissioners

827
00:39:53.739 --> 00:39:57.860
that came after Jumaadi, they didn't want to be the

828
00:39:57.940 --> 00:40:02.460
guy that sort of reversed his call. Instead of being

829
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.159
brave and say, listen, I understand why Bart made that

830
00:40:06.219 --> 00:40:10.699
call when he did. The rules, the game is different. And,

831
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.519
you know, he served his time, so to speak. And

832
00:40:14.539 --> 00:40:19.469
it's time to sort of let it be what it

833
00:40:19.650 --> 00:40:24.349
is and someone get the honor they deserve. So hopefully

834
00:40:24.389 --> 00:40:30.119
that happens. Shoeless Joe, Dale Murphy, Pete Rose, you know,

835
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.320
I'm sure I'm leaving someone out.

836
00:40:32.619 --> 00:40:34.519
I think that's a great list right there. I would

837
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.800
love to see that list get in. Matter of time.

838
00:40:37.539 --> 00:40:40.059
Like I said in the intro, really had a blast

839
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:44.159
chopping it up with Brian, man. Like I knew he

840
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.510
was a good dude coming in and then you meet

841
00:40:46.590 --> 00:40:52.599
somebody who And they're even they exceed expectations, if you will.

842
00:40:53.179 --> 00:40:57.500
So really, we'll have them back, but we will have

843
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.969
them back next week. This part two of our conversation

844
00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:04.949
with Brian and the great things he's doing and his

845
00:41:05.030 --> 00:41:09.869
company as well. And so don't miss it. Come back

846
00:41:09.949 --> 00:41:14.570
next week and catch the conclusion of our conversation with

847
00:41:14.630 --> 00:41:18.480
Brian Pura. Now, a word from our Hobby is the

848
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:23.460
People announcer of the week and some closing thoughts, and

849
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.059
we'll wrap up this week's episode.

850
00:41:26.780 --> 00:41:30.670
Time for our Hobby is the People announcer of the week.

851
00:41:30.690 --> 00:41:35.070
This is your pal Val from NASCAR Radio.

852
00:41:35.619 --> 00:41:38.099
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853
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