Sept. 21, 2026
"SGC Decision and Fairgrounds Show Review" Hobby Quick Hits E237
On this episode of "Hobby Quick Hits" I discuss the recent SGC Submission price raising, how it affects me and the recent show I did at the New York State Fairgrounds.
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Hey everybody, welcome to episode 237. of hobby quicks copy
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quick hits podcast i am one week late getting this
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out there my apologies for that a little bit busier
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my schedule sort of ramped up school has started again
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so i am back to working at school i'm also
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taking uh doing some college coursework as part of my
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employment so that's taking a few more chunks out of
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my daily pie if you will but uh Wanted to
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definitely get, I got some traveling coming up as well.
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So I didn't want to get two weeks behind. So
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here we are. So what does this episode entail? Well,
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I just did my first show after a couple month
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summer hiatus from the show circuit. And it was my
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first show in, I believe, about three years where I
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did not have an SGC bulk submission table. So I'm
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going to talk about, you know, how the show went.
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kind of the thoughts and processes behind not having the
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SGC table and why, as you might have heard, they
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raised their rates up almost 300%. I'll talk about that
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as well, right? How I found out that news, my thoughts,
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as you probably can guess, not happy ones, and how
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this all kind of comes together as one with the show.
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So that's what I'm going to dive into on this episode.
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We're going to skip kind of the news segment, folks,
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and we'll do the product release schedule, and then we'll
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dive into, you know, the SGC decision, my first show
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in three years without having a table for them, and
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my first show in a couple months after a summer hiatus. So,
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We'll kind of put all those into one basket and
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tackle it and dive into it. So there you go.
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Let's start the show. All right. It's me doing the
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product release schedule. Let's talk about the next few weeks
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and products coming out to the market. So let's start
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with the 23rd of September. We have 2026 Bowman Chrome
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Baseball Megas. All these are actually the 23rd, so I
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won't keep saying the 23rd. 2026 Leaf Autograph Collection Football
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Hobby and Jumbos. 2026 Topps Marvel Vault. 2526 Upper Deck
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Ice Hockey. 2026 Upper Deck Team USA Juniors Hockey. Now
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let's move to the 24th. 2025-26 Topps Pristine Basketball as
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basketball continues. To roll out with the licensing changing over.
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Also on the 24, 25, 26. Topps Royalty Premier League Soccer.
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Going to September 25th. We have 2026 Leaf Metal Melange.
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2026 Panini Score Retreat Halloween Bundle. That tradition continues. 2026
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Wild Card Haunted Hits Breakers Brick. On the 30th, 2026,
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Bowman Football, Blasters, Delight, Hobby, Jumbo, and Megas. Also on
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the 30th, 2026, Panini Prism, WNBA Basketball. 2026, Pulse, X,
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Big League Chew, Baseball, Blaster, Hobbies, Megas, and Value Packs.
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On the 30th as well, 2026, Top Star Wars, Chrome Blasters, Delight,
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and Hobby. On the 30th as well, 2026, Tops, Chrome, Tennis, Blasters, Delights,
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and Hobby. Also on the 30th, up 25, 26, Upper Deck, Splendor, Hockey.
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And let's go to the first week in October. We
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have the 2nd, October 2nd, 2026, Leaf Football, Pokemon, 30th Celebration,
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Booster Bundles, and Mini Tins. Going to the 6th. 2026.
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Topps Mars Attacks Xmas. 2026. Topps Allen and Jinter Baseball
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Blasters and Hobby. That's on October 7th. Also on October 7th. 2026.
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Topps Museum Collection Baseball. 2026. Slash 27. Upper Deck Series
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1 Hockey. So that's your next two or three weeks.
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Lots of products coming out. As I always say, choose
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your product, and happy ripping. Good luck. And now, our
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feature presentation. So let's start with the SGC decision. And really,
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I say SGC decision, but most know that that came
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from above. So they decided this on September, well, before that.
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They announced it on September 2nd. On the 1st of September,
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and I'm not going to name this person, I got
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a message from somebody in the hobby who said, hey, John,
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heads up, SGC is about to raise their submission prices.
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I don't know to what, but it's happening soon. And,
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you know, I just thought I'd give you a heads up.
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And I said, OK, you know, it's weird coming from you.
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I would hope my rep, you know, as a bulk
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subber would have gave me a heads up and that
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sort of thing. you know, and then I hope, you know, well, maybe,
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you know, people talk, right? Rumors start and sometimes they never, uh,
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come to fruition. So I, I hope there was some
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of that, but on the very next day, September 2nd,
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I woke up and, you know, I saw the press
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release and, you know, from $ 15 to $ 50, that's a
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three over 300%, uh, increase. Uh, and, uh, it's crazy
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if you ask me and, um, talked to my rep.
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I even told him about the heads up the day before.
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He said, doesn't understand how that happened. Everyone is pretty
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tight-lipped and that this decision came from, again, above rather quickly.
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So there wasn't a lot of time for stuff to
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get out. That's another bone of contention, right? A lot
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of times when companies raise their rates, if you will,
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They sort of gave you at least a week or
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two to get stuff in. Like, hey, you know, last
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call at the current level. This was sort of immediate. Now,
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in defense, you know, my rep said, hey, John, if
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you're in the middle of a bulk submission, we'll give
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you a couple days to finish that up and get
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it in and honor the, you know, lower previous price,
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which I wasn't because I had just sent one in
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probably like four or five days before, which that got
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in at the lower price. So he also asked me,
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you know, when's your next show? And I said the 13th,
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which was 11 days away from that conversation. And he goes, well,
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I can't help you there. You know, so my phone
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was very busy on September 2nd with some of my
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bulk subbers calling or texting, asking if it would affect
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their existing submissions, asking anything. if I was still going
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to take cards at the $ 50 level, which I'm not.
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I just can't justify that. And frankly, let's be real,
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I'm not going to get nearly as many cards at
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$ 50 a pop than I was at $ 18. So, you know,
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and again, I'm paying the freight, I'm paying insurance, I'm
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paying shipping on these orders. At $ 50 a card, I'm
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going to wind up not getting enough cards to bulk
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sub and lose money. But it's not just that. I
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can't look my clientele in the face and suggest they
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pay $ 50 a card. And I get why these companies
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do this. You know, I get why they raise their
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rates when they get backlogged, right? And we know PSA
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took a good percentage of SGC's graders, making their manpower
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lower and their turnaround times longer. And now, you know,
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Now they're getting backlogged because of that, so they're trying
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to catch up. Now I was told that, you know,
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one of the questions I asked was, how long will
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this rate increase last? And I was told that hopefully
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they will be back down lower in January of 27.
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But back down lower, what's that mean, right? Is it
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going back to the original low price? Is it going
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to be lower than 50, but 40 bucks, 30 bucks,
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25 bucks? And that was another question I got asked
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by a lot of my clientele. When it comes down,
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will it be what it was? I don't know. I
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don't know. It's all speculation. But I would be pleasantly
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surprised if it went back down to the original 15
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a car i don't expect that i hope that but
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i don't expect that so i'm gonna assume you know
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it's going to be you know lower than 50 but
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still you know anywhere from like between 25 and 40
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bucks would be a guess i know that's a fairly
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broad range but that's what i think happens there. I mean,
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in a perfect world, it goes back down to 15
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on January 1st, and all is good and right in
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the world. I'm not predicting that. I wouldn't bet my
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house on it. I wouldn't bet a lot on it,
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for that matter. So, you know, the show was 11
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days away. All this happened on September 2nd. I had
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my show at the New York State Fairgrounds on September 13th.
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My last show was June 7th, so I got almost
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two and a half months off of not doing shows.
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The summer months here in Central New York, we have
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the New York State Fair, which runs for almost two weeks,
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and a lot of outdoor events. So a lot of
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the show promoters and the main big one, which is
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the one I do shows with, sort of let that
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time to take a break. You know, he rents the fairgrounds.
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He can't rent the fairgrounds. They have a sort of two-month,
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you know, moratorium where there's no extra events there between
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the State Fair and other shows that have always, always,
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always done it those couple months. So July and August,
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you know, the Fairgrounds show takes a pause. And so
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September 13th was my first show in two and a
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half months. So I was chomping at the bit to
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get back You know, I love doing shows. I love
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being behind my tables. I love seeing my friends, you know,
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on both sides of the table. And so really look
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forward to September 13th. But I've done this bulk subbing
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now for years for SGC. Oh, and that's the other thing.
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I had to call the promoter. He had some advertising
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out there with me and SGC, you know, being there
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and taking bulk subs. So he had to sort of,
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you know, kind of reel those back as much as possible,
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get those back in. And so it was a busy
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two weeks from the 2nd to the 13th, getting ready
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for the show, repricing stuff, answering a lot of questions
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pertaining to SGC. But I was really looking forward to
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the show, you know, for not doing one for two
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and a half months. But there's a little trepidation as well,
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and here's what I mean by that. is when you
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get used to doing something and you get used to
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if there's income involved and you get used to that income,
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truth be told, right, and that's not going to happen
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any longer, it can be a little scary. You know,
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I always do pretty well on both ends, right, with
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my own cards as a dealer and the SGC bulks up.
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But there are moments, there are shows where, like, you know,
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they're they're kind of close uh you know but combined
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it makes for a very good show one maybe not
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as much so you're always fearful like i'm not gonna
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have that sgc bulk sub income it's gonna be strictly
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you know what i sell at my other two table
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and so that is you know that's can be i
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don't want to say scary but you know you you
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you think about it right like Again, you get used
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to a certain thing, and then when it changes, you know,
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by humans, we don't like change. So I was a
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little concerned about that. Are people not even going to
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come my way because I'm not taking SGC cards, right?
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You know, the SGC table at these shows, you know,
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is great for everybody. For people who want to sub,
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it's great for me for a little side income. I'm
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not getting rich off it, but it is a nice
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little side income. It's good for the promoter because it
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brings people through the doors. And so I was worried
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that people are not even going to come over to
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the area I'm in. You know, sometimes when people sub SGC,
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they might buy some cards off me or vice versa.
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They come over to buy some cards and then they
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see the SGC stuff. So, you know, you're taking one
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of those elements out of that. So I was worried
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or concerned, you know, how is this going to affect
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my show? But there's nothing I can really do about it, right?
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You got to just show up. You got to price
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your stuff accordingly and hope for the best. And there
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was a show the week before, another show by a
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different promoter, smaller show, but about, you know, 15 miles
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away from where this show is. And so you worry,
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did everyone spend their discretionary income last week? or a
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considerable amount of it. So all these thoughts pop through
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your head as a dealer. But you just, you got
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to go in and do the best you can and
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let the chips sort of fall where they may. So,
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you know, set up. And then what it was, and
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then what, you know, I do have, I did have
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some SGC cards that had yet to be picked up
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that were completed orders. So some of those people came out.
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to pick their cards up, which was, you know, good.
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I don't like having other people's cards any longer than
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I have to. But what was a little surprising to
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me was, as big a news as that was, there
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were a few people that had no idea that SGC
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had raised their submission prices. So I had to turn away, unfortunately.
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Three people came up with cards and semi-rigids, all planning
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to you know, sub not knowing that they had raised
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their prices. And they're like, where's your table? And I'm like,
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I'm assuming you didn't hear the news. And they're like, no,
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what news would that be? And I'm like, SGC raised
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their price to $ 50. And, you know, they're like, holy crap,
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how long will that be for? I don't know. You know,
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I told them the same thing I just said on
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this podcast, that I'm being told that maybe in January
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the prices will come back down. So those three people
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did not sub at $ 50, and frankly, I wasn't going
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to take their subs at $ 50. But as soon as
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I told them that, they're like, oh my God, I
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guess I'll hang on to these until the price comes down.
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I did have a fourth gentleman come to the table
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with his cards in hand and send me rigids to sub.
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He did know about the increase. He had about eight cards,
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and he was prepared to pay $ 50 a card. I
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