Sept. 11, 2026

2nd Annual Basketball Card Hall of Fame Candidates Part 1 w/Ray & Tony E405

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Sports Card Nation, the hobby is the people.

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Sports Card Nation. What is up everybody? Welcome to episode

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405 of the Sports Card Nation podcast. Happy, as always,

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to be back. And we got a great episode this week.

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We're going to talk to two gentlemen. And this was

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done sort of as a neutral setting. And we, you know,

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did it. And we all, you know, posted it on

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our own programming. But it's, you know, it's something they're

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doing every year. This is the second edition. What is

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the basketball card game? Hall of Fame. And this will

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be the second class. Last year was the first edition.

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We're going to be talking to the two gentlemen sort

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of behind it. Not sort of. They are behind it.

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And that's Ray from Philly, Ray Fronio. And TJ is online, Tony.

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And four or five cards are going to get in.

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Your votes are what make it happen. So we're going

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to talk about, you know, part one is this week.

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Part two will be next week. but we're going to

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talk about all the candidate cards. There's a vintage wing,

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if you will, and a modern wing. And so we're

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going to talk about all the candidates in both of them. And,

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you know, voting is open until October. In the show notes,

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it will show where you can go vote and, you know,

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click on that link. You only get to vote once,

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but every vote counts, right? And one vote could be

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the difference whether one card gets in over another. Truth

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be told, that's just how voting works. So, you know,

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we're going to go through all the cards. I'm going

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to share who I voted for. Do not let that

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influence you unnecessarily. Vote where your heart tells you to.

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So with that being said, let's get the episode started.

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Attention Sports Card Nation viewers.

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The hobby never ends.

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your screen again, rocking that octobox, knocking the bottom out

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of the witching hour, and announcing seven hours of Red

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Zone football. But as you watch Red Zone, just save

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some time. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, to check

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out John. and sports car nation. Let's have a great season.

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All right.

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What's the old saying? You are looking live. Hey folks,

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this is Tony. I am presenting from Ray from Philly's

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YouTube channel, a brief takeover of the channel. A special

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guest tonight for Ray and myself is Mr. John Newman.

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Say hi, John. Hi, John. I follow orders.

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So tonight, we're going to go over the 2026 Basketball

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Card Hall of Fame Modern and Vintage Ballots. And John's

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going to be nice enough to share his votes with us.

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Yeah, listen, I'll share them. Again, I have my own

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personal reasons for whatever way I voted. So don't let

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my votes influence you. This is the second. This will

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be the second class. So there's some, you know, not

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just a little preview. There's some big cards on the

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ballot here that to me are almost. in my opinion,

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almost like shoe-ins. But again, the people speak with their votes.

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So we'll see how the, when all is said and done,

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we'll see what the final tally is. But I'd be

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surprised if on the ones, on a couple of the

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few that I voted for, if they weren't, they don't

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make the text.

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Great class to share.

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A couple of quick housekeeping items. So we get one

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vote per person or online account. There's two ballots, just

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like last year, Vintage Error and the Modern Error. You

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get to vote for four cards on each error ballot.

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Only retired player cards are on the ballots, so there

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will be no LeBron James, since he still plays, or

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Joel Embiid.

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One question. One question. Real quick, it says top four

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votes get in, but if there's a tie, both get in.

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So can five cards get in then? Is that what

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you mean? Yeah, there can be six cards if there's

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multiple times. So if there's three cards, they're the top three.

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And then for the fourth card, there's two cards with exacting.

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They both get denied, so there's a five-card induction.

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That's how I do it for the baseball card.

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Okay. That's got to be cool.

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We're ahead.

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That's why right now, instead of 80 cars, there's 81.

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Cause one year I did have it.

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There you go. I like that though.

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Just some important, uh, dates we have here. So voting

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began Monday, August 17th and voting is going to end

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on the first Friday of the NBA season, which is

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October 23rd at 1159 PM. And Ray's going to announce

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when we'll have the announcement, the, uh, inductees ceremony, which

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had a soon to be date. We've got a couple

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other things we have to do first outside of this.

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And you can go to it by the sports card,

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hall of fame.com. I think it's this one. Let me

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just share the, I'll just share the entire screen. Let

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me share the entire screen.

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Look at that.

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Yeah.

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So this is the website that Ray put together last year.

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It's you can get to it by going to the

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sports card, hall of fame.com. And yeah, We have the

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Baseball Hall of Fame, the Football Hall of Fame, and

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the Basketball Card Hall of Fame. If you click on that,

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you'll see the links being added in the next day

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or two. And underneath the links, we have the first class,

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which was voted on last year. And you got the

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vintage class and the modern class. So why don't we

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work in backwards order, if that's okay? So modern era first, John,

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if that works for you.

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All right. Well, at least I was alive. Although I

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am old, so I probably was alive for some era guys, too.

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I just don't want to admit it. But at least

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I got to watch some of these guys play. So

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you want to... I'm going to, you know, full disclosure,

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I'm going to tell... Again, I'm going to say whether

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I voted for this card or not. Again, these are

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just my votes. It doesn't mean that they're all not worthy, right?

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They're on the ballot, so there's some worthiness there. But

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when you get to a card... If I voted for it,

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I might chime in either way, but I'll definitely let

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you know, like, hey, this is one of my picks.

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Cool.

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Anxious to see what you're going to pick here, John.

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I bet you I kind of know you.

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All right. Well, tell me if it was chalk. When

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I'm all said and done, it'll be like, yeah, that's

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what I thought. Now, listen, out of the three sports here,

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full disclosure, basketball ranks as, like, my third favorite. with

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baseball and football being ahead of it, but it doesn't

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mean I don't know it. It's going to rank third

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on my list.

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You don't really look like a softball player to me, John.

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You look more like a hoopster.

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Yeah, I got a three-inch vertical.

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All right, so we've got the ballot on the screen

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right now?

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Yep, here we see it.

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Yeah, so who's your first pick?

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None of it. Let me see if I can.

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Make it bigger. Here, I'll make it bigger for you.

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No problem. I got old eyes.

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You got the 83-84 star Clyde Drexler.

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I tell you, that's a good one. That's a good one.

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I didn't vote for I Don't Believe. But man, I

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wanted to. It was tempting.

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83-84 star Dominique Wilkins from the same set.

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No, I didn't vote for it again. Just because I

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didn't vote for it, I'm not saying the card's terrible.

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You only get four picks here. Only four.

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84-85 star Akeem Olajuwon.

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Yeah, I did vote for Akeem. I think he's one

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of the underrated players. You know, I know him and

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Drexler are kind of aligned together because they were teammates

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as well. Mm-hmm. But, you know, Akeem really was that

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next guy that changed kind of the center game, you know,

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in his era. So I did vote for Akeem. Okay.

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So that's your first vote? Next up, we got Sir

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Charles for the same set. Charles Barkley.

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Yeah.

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I voted for this one. I voted for this one

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as well. I think, you know, Barkley's still in the

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media today, right, as an analyst, commercials. Um, I, I,

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maybe that swayed my vote a little bit guys, to

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be honest with you, but he was a hell of

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a basketball player too. So, so I, I did, I

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did vote for this one.

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That kind of helps a player's card is their brand.

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You know, I take, everyone should take that into consideration,

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not just the value or the rarity, but like just

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the overall popularity of a player too.

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It also is a factor.

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Next up.

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Well, I guess we're going to skip the, uh, Patrick Ewing.

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I voted for this call.

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Wow.

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Okay. Wow. So three in a row. So I only

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got one more left after that. Here's my thing. I

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don't love Patrick Ewing. I'm from New York city. I'm

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not a Knicks fan per se. I don't hate him either. Right.

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But I always, I think with the Knicks winning it

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this year and they included him as I know he

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didn't obviously retired, but they sort of included him on the,

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on the tour and the, and all that stuff. That's

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a classic card. Um, again, someone's going to get left out.

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Maybe it's a little Homer in this there. Now, again,

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I'm not a Knicks fan, but I'm in New York

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and I'm a kid. So I did wrote to you

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and it probably, if I have any sort of voters remorse,

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maybe this is the card that makes me, you know,

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have a little bit, but I did vote. All right.

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So now if you have one more vote left, I

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doubt it. It's going to be the Scottie Pippen card.

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No rookie card. Shaquille O'Neal beam team card. And this

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is all his 92, 93 stadium cards. That's a great card.

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That's a great, I, I had, that was these guys.

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And I just remember pulling this card once or twice.

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I remember other people in the stress card was like

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a chase, a huge chase bag. It's still, it's not

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a chase anymore, but it's still a huge card. Like

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if I'm looking in a showcase, whether it be at

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the national or any show for that matter, it always

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draws my attention and brings back all those memories of

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my store days and custom opening plenty of, of stadium club,

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not just because it's also his rookie year too. So

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his rookie base cards were also in, in this release

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as well. This set.

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So you had top stadium club series one, series two

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came in one set and you got the members only set,

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which was, I believe a bill in and a hobby

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store only and, That just sold for almost $ 5, 000, a

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sealed set.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I didn't bid on it.

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I really wanted it.

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But even if I had the cash to bid on it,

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I would just be worried about taking out the cards

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and having them bricked. Because I remember a year after

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I bought these cards, I went to goâ well, actually

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the football cards. I went to go put them in order,

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and they started sticking even then.

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Yeah. I almost voted for the Shaq. I almost voted

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for the Shaq. I did it. but it was on

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the cusp.

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And I just, that card did pretty well last year

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on the ballot. If I'm not mistaken.

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I mean, yeah, I wouldn't be shocked. It wouldn't knock

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my one. It wouldn't shock me if it gets in Ray.

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I think definitely a huge candidate.

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93, 94 flair, ultra scoring Kings, MJ, another car that's

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currently popping like, like crazy, especially in high grade.

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Stuff right now. I, this, this is a classic classic car.

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This is a great card. Um, But, you know, you

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could almost vote every Jordan card in right now. So

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I didn't vote for this. Again, I'm not saying it's

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not worthy, but I just I tried to buck the

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trend just because right now, for whatever reason, Jordan's just

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on fire. All right.

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I believe it's going to be no for the next two?

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No.

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Is that a good guess?

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Yeah, finest Garnett rookie, no. And Allen Iverson, top scrum, no.

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How about the PMB? PMG. I think we got a typo.

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I think people will figure out. I think people will

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figure out.

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The editor's fired.

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Here's the thing. It's the same reason I didn't vote

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for the scoring king. I didn't vote for this. Again,

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it may very well get in. Again, votes are personal preference.

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We could vote for four Michael Jordan cards and call

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it a day. That's too easy. I didn't vote for it,

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but I'm sure we'll get plenty of votes without mine.

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I know this doesn't take into account or it's not

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related to the ballot, but I do have a prediction

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that if a PSA 4, 5, or 6 PMG Green

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Emerald comes up for auction, I think it's going to

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hit the $ 30 million mark. That's my projection.

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What about the Prism Jewel? I had a request from

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my buddy Holmes. He was like, Prism Jewel, Jordan. I'm

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not familiar with that one, but I'm not sure if

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either of you guys are.

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I'm thinking it might be a Pacific release. Pacific did

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a lot of those.

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Yeah.

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Weird card.

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I love Holmesy, but he's got to stick with baseball.

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He knows his stuff, man.

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I know he does. I'm just kidding. Jim's a great guy.

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Jim's a great guy. 97 Tops, Chrome, Tim Duncan, rookie card.

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Man, this was tough. It's funny. Now that I see

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the card, I remember sort of what was going through

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my mind. This card I had sort of with the Ewing.

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And I'm like, man, you could go either way here, John,

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me talking to myself in my head. I think I

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went with the Ewing because he predates Duncan. Like this card,

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I think I'll eventually vote for this card. I think

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I gave Ewing the nod over this Duncan card. just

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on the timeline, the chronological order of being a center

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in the NBA. They're both worthy. They're both Hall of

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Fame players themselves. Duncan's got more rings and that counts too.

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I just gave Ewing, maybe it's as simple as the

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Knicks winning the title for the first time in like

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ultra decades. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going

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to vote for Ewing.

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Right.

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Next year I'll vote for Duncan.

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Ewing's a great player. Yeah, I mean, and he was

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hobby popular there for a couple years in the 1980s,

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especially coming out of Georgetown. So I believe that leaves

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three cards left. We got the 98 chrome Vince Carter.

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This is a new card.

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Actually, four cards. Yeah, this is a new card. The

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97 upper deck game jersey Michael Jordan, which is the

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very first time MJ had a jersey patch on a card.

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And this comes in two versions, signed and unsigned. Any

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of these two get your votes?

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I did. That's my last pick. I did vote for

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one Jordan card. And I just think.

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It's hard to stay away from him.

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Yeah.

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It really is.

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It's just a great card. One I'll never actually own.

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But maybe the unautographed one. Maybe the unautographed one.

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But....

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This is the early days. Today, jersey cards aren't even

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a big deal anymore. Back in 97, this was a

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big deal. It's actually obviously worth more today than in 97,

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but it was still a big deal. Jersey cards in

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themselves were a big deal. This was the early provenance

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of game-used jersey cards in packs. I almost gave it

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the nod guys for the, for that, rather than it

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being a Jordan, obviously being a Jordan, put it over

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the top, but just when you combine all the elements,

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the early stages of, of game use cards and packs

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and Jordan and the potential to have a full one,

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that's actually autographed on top of that as well. I

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voted for this. I almost felt like if I didn't

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vote for Jordan card, I'd almost be doing a disservice

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then skipping on all of them. So this was the

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one I, the fourth one.

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Okay.

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And John, do you remember where this patch came from?

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Which one of Jordan's jerseys?

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I don't, but you're going to tell me. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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When I had to do research for the card, cause

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this was a, recommendation to be included in on the

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ballot last year it's from the 92 nba all-star game

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and do you remember what makes that game.

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A little bit popular i do i do yeah i

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know you do i do i do call me up on.

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The solid i'm gonna guess was it the magic johnson game.

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That's it Bingo.

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Bingo. Yeah. I thought so, but I wasn't 100%. After

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the HIV diagnosis. He's still going. And, Liz, I don't

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want to make this a medical show, but they don't

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even talk about that.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I guess he's all right.

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What happened? Good. I'm glad. I'm not rooting for his demise.

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I mean, it's almost 40 years ago. Well, listen.

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I'll ask you, I'll open this question to you guys.

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When that whole thing came to light, and the announcement,

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and the press conference, and I'm glad it didn't happen,

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but did you think at the time, like, he's probably

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going to pass away?

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Absolutely. This was still a relatively new thing, you know?

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It was only a few years into the world.

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People, you saw pictures of skinny people sick in beds,

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and then they pass away. And so you thought, man, oh,

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it's like a bad diagnosis. Like, this is the end.

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And here we are in 2026. Yeah.

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This was a shocking story.

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This wasn't sports news. This was on regular news affiliate. Yeah.

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So here we are in 2026.

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And thank God the radio was all over. Yeah. Thank God.

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It was all over the radio driving home. It was

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24-7 magic. It was huge.

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And the announcement was only less than two years than that. Thanks,

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Denzel Washington film, Philadelphia, too.

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Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, that's a great movie.

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Yeah, so if folks want to take a turn down

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memory lane to see how society was towards HIV and

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AIDS back then, check out that film.

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Tom Hanks.

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And that film, we all know Tom Hanks now. He's

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an icon, a Hollywood legend. I think that was the

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film that pushed him into that sphere. It wasn't his

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first movie by any means.

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It was a serious movie.

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It showed he was capable of playing that kind of character.

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He always kind of played some comedic roles.

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Prior to that. Going from big and.

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Splash.

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And then he starred on Most of the Buddies. I

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think Philadelphia showed his true acting.

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It launched him.

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Without a doubt.

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Just to recap, Mr. Newman voted for the Akeem Olajuwon

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rookie card, the Barkley from the same set, Chuck, the

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86 flair, Patrick Ewing.

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And right here, I'm like, you better slow down. There's

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more cards. Yeah, right.

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