April 20, 2026

Card Manufacturer Obligations? Hobby Quick Hits E227

Card Manufacturer Obligations? Hobby Quick Hits E227
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What are card manufacturers obligations to the hobby? What should they do that they aren't? What are they doing that they shouldn't be? Let's discuss!


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Hobby Quick Hits, delivering that breaking hobby news loaders. You

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want to know those Josh card shopshop, You've got your copy,

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your host.

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John new Name, Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of

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hobby Quickts. Today's episode titled what is the responsibility of

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card manufacturers? Right? What do we need them to take

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more ownership of? What do we need them to do better?

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Where are they lacking? And so that you know, I'm

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going to kind of take it from the perspective if

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I was in charge, what I would do different? What

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are they doing wrong? And not everything they're doing is wrong?

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And I know we just had recently Tops Chrome Football

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come out at astronomical prices, and yes, I'm going to

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touch on that, but you know, not everything they're doing

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across the board is wrong and not even so much

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always just wrong. But what can they improve upon? And

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so that's what this episode is going to be about.

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Let me know. But if you listen, let me know

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what I got right, what you agree with, maybe what

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you disagree with. So you know, opinions are welcome and

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so and this isn't just Tops, this is you know,

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and I know Panini doesn't hold the same license see anymore.

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But this is for anyone that produces cards, even your

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if you want to call them small boutique brands like

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Onyx and Sage and press Pass and that sort of thing.

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This discipes to everybody. But obviously, when you hold most

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of the licensing as TOPS, does you know you're you're

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gonna be the standard bearer if you will. All right,

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time for the next few weeks of product releases. Let's

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start with day of release of the show April twentieth,

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twenty twenty five, twenty six TOPS Chrome Bundesliga Soccer Sapphire

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Edition on the twenty first, twenty twenty six Futura Incredible

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Collection Series two. Let's go to the twenty second. These

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are all April twenty second, twenty twenty five, twenty six

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Bowman Basketball Blasters, The Lighthanngers Hobbies and Jumbos twenty twenty six,

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Leaf Metal Baseball, Hobby and Jumbos, twenty five Slash twenty

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six Panini Donors Road to FIFA World Cup twenty six

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Soccer twenty five, twenty six Upperneck Skybox Metal Universe Hockey

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going to the twenty third, twenty twenty six Top's Finest

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Premier League, Soccer to twenty fourth, twenty twenty six, Sage

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Football High Series, Blasters and Hobbies, Pokemon Mega Evolution, Ascended Heroes,

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Booster Bundles and Exbox on the twenty eighth, twenty twenty

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five Historic Autographs, President of the United States the White

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House on the twenty ninth, Frasier Premier Edition Trading Cars

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also on the twenty ninth, twenty twenty six Leaf Magnificence

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Multi Sport, twenty twenty six, Panini Donors Racing twenty five

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Slash twenty six Panini's Select Serie A Soccer going to

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also on the twenty nine, twenty twenty six TOPS Chrome

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Black Baseball, twenty twenty five Tops Definitive Baseball, also on

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the twenty ninth, twenty twenty five twenty six TOPS Cosmic

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Chrome Basketball moving on to April May May first, twenty

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twenty five, Tops Chrome Football Vegas, twenty twenty five Tops

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WWE Royalty. So that is the new release schedule for

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the next couple of weeks, and as we always say,

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you know, choose your product. Happy Rippy.

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Let's go round the hobby verse and catch up on

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this week's hobby news.

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All Right, Tops had their Industry conference in Arizona. Let's

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talk about some of the news coming out of that event.

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Twenty three NBA products will be released this year, including

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high end products, Dynasty, Definitive in Royal, MVP buybacks are

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coming to football now, starting immediately with the NFL releases

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and Matt Stafford being the MVP. We're going to see

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more game used football jerseys and football and the items

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are going to be streamlined and direct from the NFL

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locker rooms. I've given credit where credits do. The Major

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league debut patches have been one of the best things

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TOPS has done in a while. With that, they're going

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to continue now in basketball and football with debut debut

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patches from those boards and no rookies. Speaking of baseball,

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TOP Series two, you know we had the Manno. Fifty

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two TOPS Chase in Series one. That's going to continue

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in Series two with two cards. A Hank Aaron nineteen

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fifty four TOPS Rookie, a card I'm proud to own,

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and in nineteen fifty two, in nineteen fifty three Jackie

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Robinson Tops not a rookie card, but a iconic classic

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card just the same. Also mentioned as fanatics is getting

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into the credit card business. So you can run up

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your credit card buying all that overpriced wax if you

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will so put it on your card. I'm kidding, but

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as someone who years ago ran up ten thousand dollars

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on a credit card opening wax, it's easy to do.

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Don't fall down that prep home if you will. All right,

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game stop. We all know they're a hub for PSA

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cards to get your cards graded. They're getting into the

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digital pack opening game, much like Arena Club. They're called

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power packs. The packs are digital, but the cards are real,

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ranging anywhere from twenty five dollars all the way up

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to twenty five hundred. You rip that digital pack and

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pull aps and get a PSA card, which you have

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a choice to keep in the vault list on eBay

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or sell back to them with an offer price that

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they will give. Not a fan of these, but you know,

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actually for fun. The group I was set up at

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the last card show I did, we each bought a

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twenty five dollars Arena Club pack and I got a

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Joey Bell nineteen ninety leaf PSA eight. Yay me. All right?

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They say, don't knock it to you, try it, So

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I tried it. Now I can knock it all right,

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let's moving on the more news. You know, most every month,

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Michael Jordan usually leads the way in basketball for most

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cards submitted for grading at PSA. Well, March there's a

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new leader atop that board. Now, Jordan did finish second

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with thirty thousand cards submitted, but your new leader for

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March was Cooper Flag, who had thirty two thousand cards.

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So Cooper Flag thirty two thousand, Michael Jordan thirty thousand.

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JSA and Mike Ray have announced a new partnership which

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will allow sort of a combo deal for photo matching

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an item and auto authentication. Uh so, the combo saves

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you a little money, gets the item photo matched authenticated

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and the autograph authenticated as well. And that's again assuming

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it passes their inspection. eBay has announced cancelation cancelations. We've

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all probably been there if you're an eBay seller, right,

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someone wins an auction or even a buy it Now,

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and you know then says, well, my son, my son

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got my phone and bought that, or you know, I

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rolled over in my sleep and bid on it Unknowingly,

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you won't be able to do that no more. You

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cannot cancel cancelations, or you can't cancel your high bid

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or winning bid. You can request that the seller cancel

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your bid, but you your self health I can't do that now.

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I actually like this new rule. I think it puts

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the you know, the onus on bidders like to honor

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your bids and your you're buy it now if you will. UH.

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In the Lawsuit department of the month or or week,

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Michael Rasmussen out of Arizona isssuing Collector's Holdings for supposed

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monopoly now that they own P S A, SGC and

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Beckett Grading. Uh. So he is suing for numerous compensatory

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and other damages. He is requesting a jury trial. This

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is pretty fresh news, so nothing is no date for

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trial or whether it will go to trial. UH is

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uh set yet, but that is at least it's been filed.

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And let's close with a story. I love Nick Barton

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of Mean Daddy Cards, and I'm going to effort to

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get him on Sports Gardination. He has set up and

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all he's calling it the All Stars Card Show. It

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would be taking place June fourth at Villanova University in Philadelphia,

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and it's it's a card show designed with UH collectors

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and kids with disabilities and their families. So it's gonna

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be more spaced out, the roles are gonna be wider,

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free admission. It's gonna be set up where there's not

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going to be a lot of noise for for kids

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that are noise sensitive. And you know, someone who works

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in the special education department in teaching, I understand a

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lot of these things. And so to have a show

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designed for folks with dealing with those disabilities, UH in mind,

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UH is is great. Right, It's a It's a great

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thing to do and not easy to do. And again,

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it's not about the money, right, there's no admission. This

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is just about the experience for these kids, UH and

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their families. And so UH kudos to UH, to Nick

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and Mean Daddy Cards who are behind this event. And now,

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all right, today's episode is going to be pertaining to

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you know, what card manufacturers are sort of should be

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obligated to do or what they should be about in

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my opinion, UH, maybe you'll disagree, maybe you'll read that

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to you obviously. Now I had written down this idea

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for this episode before the Tops Chrome Football release. But

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let's start out by talking a little bit about that

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and the four figure price tag on a hobby box,

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which I think is I'm not going to mince words, right,

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I think that's outrageous. I think that's ridiculous. And you know,

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but again, right, the buyers set the price, but a

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lot of this price is being set by breakers who

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are buying up the product. And so I guess my

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first thing is I'd like to see these companies, you know,

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have these these products be more affordable for for any

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you know, for a lot more people to purchase, rather

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than people playing in the high end space. Only I

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know it's chrome in this case what we're talking about,

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but there's no way to that product should be twelve

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hundred or more dollars for a hobby bock. And again

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that's my opinion. I'm not going to open that now.

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If I go to Walmart and see a blaster for

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thirty bucks, sure, and that's that's that affordability factor, you

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know that, And I like to see, you know, these

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companies want to control a lot of the things. Well,

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control that as best you can, and I get the

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secondary market, you really can't necessarily control that, but they

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can put things in place to make a difference there

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and like to see it all? Right, what else would

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I like, you know, to see? Card manufacturers? Do you

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know parallels are out of control? Right, all these color variations,

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artificial scarcity. Yes, they're one on ones, but then there's

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fifty different one on one, so you know, we just

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have two many uh. And it's just you know, I'm

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a base cards matter guy, uh and always will be.

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Was from day one before you know, I got into

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the hobby before there were parallels or number of cards

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and and and I don't have a problem with parallels

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and number cards. I just think there's way too many

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of them. There's there's too much of them, an influx,

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and what it's done is it's it's put too much

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emphasis on that. And people don't care about the base cards. Right.

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Go to the national looking trash cans that are wide open, right,

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and there's cards just sitting in the trash on top

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or left at a table, just you know, spread over around.

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And people don't care about like the regular cards anymore.

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Or I don't want to say I don't want to

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paint with a broad but a majority of people don't

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care about those base cards anymore. And and it's sad

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for someone who starts in nineteen seventy nine. And again

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I'm not saying I'm, you know, trying to be the

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old man on the porch air. I get the the

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you know, evolution of the hobby and the innovation of

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the hobby with with you know, parallels and colored cards

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and Foio cards, holographic cards, and I like pulling those two.

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I just think we have way way too many of them,

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and there's a there's just an oversaturation of those, and

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you know, I like to see less. I don't want

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to get rid of them. I just like to see

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less to where base cards can can matter. Again and again,

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maybe I'm in the minority talk about case hits, and

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I get, you know, case hits are not a new phenomenon.

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We've we've even had them for many years. But sometimes

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I really question what's going on. Right, So you know,

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we all know about the kabooms and the Downtown was

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in the home field advantages, right, and how they're supposed

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to be really rare. And had a friend of mine

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at the National had a whole case full of like Downtown,

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and I said to him, like, you know, what's the

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deal here. You're supposed to be you know, rare, hard

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to get and you know, I'm not gonna mention them

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by name, but he told me, John, they're not what

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they're advertised to be. They're coming out at more frequently

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than we're told. And you know, while he said he

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pulled some, he bought most of them off other collectors.

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you know, the hype is overhype. They're not. They're coming

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out at a higher rate than they're being advertised. And

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he even questioned whether some are coming out of back

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doors of some of these car companies, car manufacturers. So again,

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you know, i'd like to see transparency in the odds, right.

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I Sometimes I really question how accurate these odds are.

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I'd like to see these card companies, whatever those odds are,

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live by them, be truthful by them, or don't even

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post them. Don't even post them. Let what comes out

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comes out. But if you're gonna post odds, I don't

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think they're always accurate, and I think they always should be.

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And you know, kaboom doesn't have to be a case hit.

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You know what, I mean, it's a great card, but

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if they're coming out at more than one per case,

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don't call them a case hit. That's I guess where

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I'm going with this, stickers versus on card autos. I

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don't hate Stiicerados, and I've said this on the show before.

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Right without Stigerado's there are some athletes that you would

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not be able to obtain an autograph in a pack

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of cards. That that is the tradeoff you have to

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make now, given the choice between the two. Of course,

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I think ninety nine percent of us would, if not

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one hundred, would take an on card auto over a

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sticker auto. But the sticker autos bothered me a little

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bit less than probably the average collector, just because I realized, like,

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without it, we wouldn't be able to get some of these,

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you know, athletes and celebrities autographs in product, in products.

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So I kind of I'm okay with it, But you know,

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the more on card autos we can get in products, obviously,

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it goes without saying the better right relic cards, Right,

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I remember the days when pulling a game use card

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out of a product was a big deal and you

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got excited, and that bloom has come off the rows.

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You know, we got a lot of these event worn

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or you know, I hate to pick up Panini, but

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they're they're famous for this, right is you know they

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have a an athlete show up at at their corporate

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and they throw fifty jerseys on them and they look

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like the Michelin man. And then they have them take

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off the jersey and they say, you know, was worn

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by said player and then they cut these up and

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it's not using the game, it's not used on the

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on the field. I want I want to see us

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get back with game use cards, which I still love

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and I think they have a place in the hobby.

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Let's let's quit with these event worn you know, let's

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get back to game us. And I know TOPS at

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the the recent and you know, if you heard the

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new segment, you heard me talk about tops is is

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going that direction. And so kudo's there for getting back

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to the real game used uh you know uh cards

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uh in in products and not event worn or the

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player touched it for two seconds and now you know,

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or the Christmas sweaters or you know, the list goes

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on and on. Let's bring back the significance of a

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relic or game use card, and I think Tops is

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laying the groundwork for that. Redemptions right again, sort of

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like sticker utos for me. I understand redemptions will always

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be part of products. Sometimes they don't have the items yet,

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or maybe you know, in a case like the fifty

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two Tops Mantle Chase, that card won't fit into a

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regular pack of standard sized cards, so you have to

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use redemption. I'm not opposed to redemption. What I'd like

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to see better with redemption is the turnaround times. I

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think years and years waiting for a redemption card to

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be redeemed and honored. There's just way too long. That's

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what we need to these companies need to get better with.

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Is like the time that it takes to get what

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you got a redemption card for. You know, we talk

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about waiting for our graded cards to come back. It

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takes months and months, if not not a year, right, Well,

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redemption cards are even worse in most cases, right, the

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turnaround times on redemption cards. Let's let's streamline that process.

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Let's get that process quicker. The watering down of rookie cards, right,

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I don't know how you fix this, and I'm going

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to complain about it. But full disclosure, I don't think

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it's fixable at this point. So what do I mean

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by the watering down of rookie cards. Well, if you

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started in the seventies like I did or earlier, you know,

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most guys had you know, most athletes had one rookie card,

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maybe three, four five at the most, depending on on licensing. Right.

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But what's happened now is it's just such a plethora

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of products and then different versions right of the card

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that you know where you know Cal Ripkin has, you know,

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I use him for example, you know three rookie cards.

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You know too, if you're a Cal Ripkin collector to

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obtain If Cal Ripken was a rookie in today's day

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and age, he'd probably have between two to five hundred

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rookie card choices for that collector. And that's just a lot.

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And that's just because there's just so many products, and

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then you got the different parallels and the different versions

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and different tiers. Again, I'm not a fan of that.

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I'm sort of old school, but I don't think this

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is a problem that can be really fixed. I think

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sort of the the the horses out of the barn.

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The only way you fix it right, is you don't

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have as many products, and for what these companies are

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paying for the licensing, that's not gonna happen. We're gonna

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get thirty forty products of each sport a year, if

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not more. And that's one company in tops's case, with

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the three major sports now with football, basketball, and baseball.

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And so you know when you look at let's let's

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take hockey for example, right with upper deck whole net license,

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and you know that young gun of a rookie has

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sort of become sort of the standard bearer for less

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rookie cards to chase, right, And I sort of like that.

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I like that, But again, I don't think this is

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a problem that can be fixed. I think what it

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really boils down to is if you're collecting rookie cards

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that you really have to decide which is the few

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or the one or which ones are you going to

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try to get. To try to get them all would

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be literally almost impossible, if not impossible. So I don't

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think it's fixable. But if you have a suggestion, i'd

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like to hear, and I'm sure there's more things that

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I didn't mention. Let me know what you'd like to

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see from card manufacturers to make the hobby better. I'll

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add another thing on the fly here. I'd like to

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see more card companies at events or you know, you

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go to a baseball game any first, you know, five

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ten thousand people through the gate get maybe a promo

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pack free as part of the experience. And I know

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they do that sometimes at NFL games years ago. I

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know I got some Pannini team packs at Steeler or

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Bills games I went to. I'd like to see that

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become more of a regular occurrence to expose our great

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hobby right to maybe people who don't even know about it,

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or you know, getting that promo pack in hand as

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you walk through that gate, maybe that, you know, creates

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a future collector, and that's a good thing I believe anyway.

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So maybe more, you know, an on site present at

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sporting events. I'm not even saying the company has to

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be there, but maybe doing giveaways or giving away those

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promo packs as people walk through or enter the stadium

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or the arena. If so, that's that's all I got.

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What say you do you agree? Disagree? Did I miss something?

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Did I leave something out? Let me know what you

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think and we'll see you next time, Thanks everybody,