I am Danny black and I'm John Newman welcome to card menes well welcome to card Menches I'm Danny black and John Newman had a uh work event tonight not a party but it's probably a party uh he had some uh so some Union business so know he's got to do what he's got to do um hello everybody uh celebrating uh a long weekend for my kids off of school uh on Monday I don't know about you guys who's working uh but we got some cool stuff tonight uh we are on episode 56 or 57 uh it might be 58 actually got to double check that I usually rely on John to tell us uh hello to everybody who's in early hey Larry very early stooks Reuben Maddie what's going on maroy hello um couple things uh first of all Bob yuker sadly sadly passed away so uh what's going on Dylan uh thank you hajes and you know as a a bob Yer fan and somebody who you know he was a part of the Brewers my entire life uh but the stories and U if you've ever seen his Hall of Fame induction speech it is fantastic um probably the funniest Hall of Fame induction speech in any sport I've ever seen um if anybody's seen it definitely share in the chat tonight's going to be an interactive night guys uh without John um it's going to be me and you guys um the Miller Light commercials were great you know what did he say uh I must be in the front row you know he was safe I could see it or he missed the tag that's what it was um so he was fantastic um I also like some of his lines he had a great uh equipment sponsor they paid him uh never to use their equipment uh Mr Bel here absolutely uh what what else did he say he uh figured out the secret to uh catching a knuckle ball just wait for it to stop rolling and pick it up and throw it back um he was a uh what did he say he was a a 200 his whole career uh along with another Legend uh great bowler so uh he was a great bench player for the uh 64 Cardinals World Series uh so he did get his ring so um I don't know if you guys have ever seen his Hall of Fame induction video I was thinking about playing it tonight but I'm not going to um absolutely just a bit outside he uh he had lived most of those lines actually um that was part of I mean he really was just a funny guy um do you guys have any interest in seeing uh part of his Hall of Fame induction is hysterical but if not just Google it on or look it up on you Youtube yes tickets in the front row he has a a statue um great players like light beer because it's less filling I know I asked one um he has a statue outside the stadium and inside the stadium um so I I learned that uh in some of the retrospectives they did this week I thought that was pretty cool um and let's we got a we got our card show here so let's see I got his rookie card um which is a five player card if anybody's seen it before there you go 62 tops the 63 is his he's by himself um I don't love the way they made him look in this card this picture was actually from the episode we did on uh I think worst looking player pictures so I apologize to to Bob uker that that's the picture we're using but that is his rookie card um it is a tough card to find centered without a doubt now this one's not terrible for a seven I guess um if Becket sevens will ever mean anything again we could make that a whole separate topic will Becki rating ever mean anything again um it is a tough card to find centered um you know I was going to talk about something else but I how much you guys put and Dylan I know if you're still listening this might be obvious but uh how much do you guys put on centering over other aspects on cards I'm buying a couple lower grade Hall of Fame rookies um a YZ rookie a bench rookie a Brett rookie and I tend to go for centering more than other things um and it drives up the price a little and I don't know if the NB ba sticker means anything to anybody um for the centering there but a couple cards that I was Warren cing sucks I knew of Dylan The King The King he's gonna start his own Grading Company uh and big let me rephrase it he's going to take over grading um I should Mike Petty thank you centering is the first thing not the end all will you guys put up with a small crease that that's not on the player first centering um where did I get I put my I recently for showing some cards that was this week um the centering is better than it's looking on the screen Ruben says personally I'd accept a 64 centered card for rookie cards in vintage yeah I mean sometimes you just have to um maybe it's OCD which is very ironic Maddie uh so centering is primary everybody look how awesome everybody is I'm not alone there we go um all right big uh Jewish card news are you guys ready for this it's not often I I can actually share Jewish carders because there's almost never any Jewish carders um but in the world of auctions sou bees is auctioning off and let me uh is auctioning off the most complete Jewish baseball card collection ever um it is from Seymour sto uh I believe was a doctor um I could be wrong um but the collection is going to be you know half a million to 3/4 of a million kofax obviously Greenberg um but going back to some 1867 tin types which uh are a little bit controversial um on whether or not the players were Jewish ironically there you go tops wi kosher in 52 so we're good good there you go I wonder if that was the bubble gum kosher who knows um 200 player 200 different players um or 177 players um have confirmed Jewish Heritage 14 do not so um there you go see more Buzz The manova Collection newly discovered fresh to the Hobby breaking news I told you guys it's not often it's making me tear up I got something in my eye um but three4 of a million dollars half a million dollars uh I have never seen one of the tin types in person I don't know if anybody else has um says the gum must have been as his Orthodox Grandmother always had some for us is it gum in general or the tops gum I don't know I'm getting awfully uh this is the most religious I think I've ever gotten on this show um but half a million and 3/4 of a million the tin type alone they're quoting at a quarter of a million dollar so have you guys ever seen a tin type um I mean that's just crazy cool mie says any mo Berg in that collection that would be a catcher's Mitzvah uh I'm sure Berg is in that collection and I'm sure it's not a chicken back it's probably a a better sample than I have uh double bubble there you go you can have that when you need some family tint UPS right and this one 1867 so first of all you got to think about how many how big was baseball in 1867 and then who thought to make photos or cards or tin types um just super cool guys Mark if you have a baseball one and want to come on I'd love to see it um just totally curious Greenberg signed matah very fragile though those crack you got to be careful PSA 10 I wonder if they do it like the comics where where it's encased uh in the comic holder you guys are hilarious um but I mean does that surprise anybody else that quarter of a million for a tin type now it's obviously being driven up by the fact that some people believe it's the earliest card representation picture of a Jewish player Litman pike liit pike was considered the first Jewish star um but he played I believe 10 15 years after that um so I wanted to share that story because I thought that was pretty freaking cool so good for sou bees um it is funny how how many people are fighting over uh which cards count and which ones don't who's Jewish enough who cares collect your cards uh get a chicken back Berg it's all the matters um Negro League player Bobby Marsh is Negro League player Bobby Marshall in the collection said to be African-American and Jewish first black to play flirt NFL team fascinating um no idea uh he was not mentioned in the article but I'm going down a rabbit hole tonight play Rod ker not a Jew um when did Bobby play because I know there was a gap I or I thought there was a gap um in football for a while also but maybe I'm wrong on that uh Rod K now married to a Jew went to a synagogue went to Services never actually converted um it's a shame we could have used a good hitter a good good average hitter we got Greenberg for power but good slap hitter uh all right cards I'm buying and I definitely want your opinion y rookie bench rookie Brett rookie looking at those three so I'm just going to put it in the curious yes really another bench I'm I'm curious guys on why you're saying bench it's definitely uh a hard card to find in good good time good centering alltime greatest catcher fair point I mean Yogi be but fair fair point Larry says he's own them all but likes the colorful Brad see that's so funny I don't love 75 um I know it's huge for rookies but um I think that's part of the reason yeah and I'm a Brooks guy maybe that's part of the reason I'm hesitant on Brett but Brett might be the Best Buy for a high grade um Med bench before speaking of which if you don't have a Jim Palmer rookie and I know this is such a hommer conversation but if you don't have a Jim Palmer rookie you could pick one up pretty affordably um in a four five six even a seven um there's uh the coke for the evening guys Excuse me while I crack it open What's Up Orlando Orlando has been killing it by the way over at Hobby hline I met bench before I've heard that bench is a mench so I heard he's a good guy I like the players themselves when the rookie cards no doubt about it um just don't always get to choose um so I wonder if that is that rolling out bench and what do you think of the Yas Allstar card um I'm actually tempted to go with gz first the older card I think I can get a good condition reasonable Orlando I I'm buying a rookie card it's going to be a Yas a bench or a Brett what do you recommend I'm curious buddy hope you're doing well the tax is just a sweet looking card see interesting I assume you meant you prefer the 62 maybe your performance in 62 is better you didn't look that old when we met R um all right so you guys have absolutely split between all three anybody want to come on and discuss it anybody want to take y or take Brett or or take bench I'd love to hear this um I like the 62 y card too you guys are bad influences I don't want to buy more cards uh Y is on the 60 Minneapolis Miller team also we went from Miller live with Bob uker to the Minneapolis Millers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers well there you go great Point here I go yes but if you like Milestones this would be the 50th anniversary of the Brett card sure oh Ruben what did I do I'm sure I screwed up something as I get uh as the anxiety kicks in I readjust in the chair uh that's hilarious I'm sure I did something fantastically uh awesome he says he has a New Year's uh can't lose anything buying those cards all right let me put up the link here Ruben says it was him not me all right well that's much better and if anybody wants to jump on tonight we're just going to go as long as we're having fun that's why I think I'm going yes Larry he says who do I like the most um I think that's why I'm going yes over bre I don't know I'm really torn I am really torn Ruben I need guidance my friend it wasn't you it was me I failed you this week what's up I found the tippy ticket and lost it with two seconds left no way it was actually out there yes I even tried to text you about it so you could get in on it but evidently the number on the business card that you gave me a couple years ago ago either you don't uh use that number anymore or just ignore the text but I found it like I was freaking out I was like holy crap I'm going to be mench of the year for you do do you know for yes I do no I was so stoked whenever I found it like I texted Warren I'm like dude have you been able to get a hold of Danny cuz I just found something and then I sent that text to you because it was going to be a few more days before like the auction ended and I sat there and I watched it and I watched it and I was like okay so I waited till like less than 10 seconds left and made this gigantic bid figuring that I was just going to get it and somebody came in with 2 seconds left and speechless and you're a good you're a good person this is on me I got I'll give you my correct information off screen um but oh I'm I'm like sick to my stomach you were after seeing that like I was going to get it and 2 seconds left and then it went away I was gut punched for like 3 days I was like man you never see this I saw it I was like yes I'm gonna get it for him okay now there's there was another Tippy ticket for a different game recently you're sure it was the a24 game correct because it's it's on the ticket August 24th 1983 there's a blue jay's logo on the left hand inside it's light blue in color it's the the description even said Tippy Martinez three pickoffs one game ticket and I know why you can never find it because it's also Cal ripken's birthday oh I'm very aware and people that are Cal Fanatics you know went and snagged it what's up Jaye uh I am sick no Orlando I have never seen another never I mean shy about this after talking to you about this and saying and hearing you say that the only time you've ever seen it was in the B Museum and I was like dude it's right there I got it two seconds Danny oh $150 yep and then I was like I shouldn't I shouldn't tell you what I would have oh yeah I think I think we we we'll take a moment of silence at the end of the show um I think would only be appropriate I mean I was going to like maybe secretly get it for you and then the next time I see you like have this presentation just see your jaw hit the floor but I had to tell you the story cuz I thought maybe maybe you saw it and like you were the winning bidder and like you were going to have the story on on card mes tonight you finally got it but oh well I am there you go Mye Petty says why didn't you double Mega bid see well considering the the initial bid I put in on was A1 $100 and I was the only bidder and then some and then somebody went to $102 up until 10 seconds left and I went 150 then you know 2 seconds left Somebody went 150 that's so I did I did I did do like a crazy bid so okay can I ask all the the geeky questions was it yes was it slabbed was it a full ticket was it a stub it was stub yeah it wasn't slabbed man now I get a bunch notifications like hey would you be interested in the tippy Martinez free pickoff bobblehead no I just want the freaking ticket dude oh I want to know why my filter uh didn't catch that I gotta check my keyword filter now yeah it was one of those weird I'm I'm literally speechless it was one of those weird things that I just happen to get on eBay and I'm like let's see if I can find it because wasted so many hours looking for it and then it was and I was like in shock I was like holy crap yeah well you're the man for even looking I gotta tell you you are such a such a good dude for even checking and even putting in a bid like I like words can't express how much that means to me I just I just wish that I was able to get a hold of you so you could have got in on it too cuz I just I threw the bid in as like a placeholder so I would get notifications and I was like maybe I'll get a hold of and I'll make his day yes Orlando without a doubt if I'm not going to get the 1867 tin type for a quarter million definitely my Grail oh wow all right well you you uh you brought it tonight I'll keep on searching uh you're the dude you're the man everything else good everything uh with your New Year well yeah just waiting on a PSA return like everybody else yeah that's crazy um Mike Petty says I was going to buy Danny a Ruth card when he when he was a kid in Baltimore but I lost but I lost I was fifth in the [Laughter] bding uh awesome attempt Ruben yep appreciate you buddy all right I'll let somebody else hop on here all right I'll talk to you thank you all right wow that's literally the closest I've ever come to getting that ticket and I wasn't close because I don't use that number anymore so um all right oh I'm can you guys believe that that's that's the okay first of all yes Ruben can we just say that's what this Hobby and that's what collecting should be about I mean amazing amazing amazing for anybody to even think of me much less put a a bid in to hold it to try to get a hold of me I am I'm speechless in a good way I'm speechless uh because I'm sick that I lost out on it I really really really H is this a family show am I allowed to cuss uh Mike Petty says a for effort you yeah very very cool move uh on rubin's part I like who would ever think it would go for 150 because there you go send a message to the seller and see if he would reach out to the buyer the ticket yeah it's probably not a bad idea um it's all about this awesome Community without a doubt like I even going to share that story the story alone Rivals the ticket right now I mean that's good stuff good people you stuff well that caught me off guard not often you uh find find out that you missed a phone call for your gril but uh appreciate it and uh I appreciate uh whoever said that you guys are going to all keep looking um I appreciate that guys Warren thank you um yes it is uh I got to get the correct number that's that's the problem I I'll get the correct number to ran um yeah but that's freaking awesome so what's everybody's Grail now I want to know I feel like we should all share so we can look for each other I mean you know this isn't about me We're All in This Together uh Reuben definitely Ruben you know put in what your gril uh we're not buying it for you so you know doesn't matter what the what the price is you know if you're having trouble finding something throw it in the chat right now it's time for some good vibes good hobby Vibes right now Orlando making it sound like I'm a people I think we need to do a card mches uh meet up at the national is there anybody here who uh I guess that's not fair I don't want to single anybody out most people going to the National I assum should we do a meet up somewhere for menes I definitely think we uh we had the impromptu one at uh the dick Perez movie last year I think I think we definitely need one no National this year Strongsville hotel room is a big part although I don't know if you guys ever watch Gabriel glacius fluffy the stand-up comedian you're not homeless you're unhoused uh I do need to get my hotel room I have not done anything to prepare for that I'll be honest I have a 17-year-old daughter who will be leaving for college she's a high school senior so my world's been H Hotel my world's been College shopping um but I will definitely definitely be at the national definitely be at the next chanelli WoW L are you too Strongville but no National are more people going to Strongville than the national that's interesting or is it just you two guys I won't pick on you you're you've been too nice gonna miss you at the national ribbon Larry Larry were you there last hajes says I'm going to Strongville not able to make the national this year I wonder if this is a small sample size or if uh the national uh is not getting the attention this year uh St says the Twin City sports collectors club show tomorrow you've talked about this I've heard about this 50th consecutive Year good on you guys I mean that's that's the mid 70s starting a card show that's fantastic keep in it going through all through all economies up and down through junk wax that's awesome Larry says it's just a six-h hour drive to Strongville roughly for me I should know that better um Chicago I don't know rooms are hard to find at the national yeah my plans changed I don't know if my wife is coming with me or not I'll be honest so we'll see and that might that might change if I'm flying or driving the drive isn't bad you know no it's a good drive from Baltimore to Chicago for those of you who going to the National are you going to go are you going to the National do you think for all three years in Chicago so I think I'm gonna end up Nationals yeah hope hes make all three I don't know if if the venue balky right it's been a minute on that show didn't he ride in on the rickety truck with with his legs dangling off the back nice call and perfect strangers that's hilarious um all right guys I might be wrapping it up early tonight he did I know uh I love all of you but uh I think uh I think we're going to call it call it an early one Danny was one of the Knights of the Round Table in Chicago 2023 I I don't know about nights at the round table but um I was in Chicago in 2023 that's that's true I will be at the national this year like I said I'll be at chanelli um in April I don't know if anybody here makes it to Chantilly um if you are I will be a Chris SS booth just helping him out um which is also tied in with house cards oh yeah that was the year uh I was having a lot of fun that year yes that was uh uh those are not all stories that uh I will tell on camera always Larry and I appreciate you do um and I wonder you know like I said if you're coming come by and say hi I'll be with Chris and uh if we're not too busy always good to say hi and meet people in person but for tonight guys I think I'm gonna I'll go as long as you guys are going to go fingers cross I just found the gril ticket uh for me uh September 30th 95 Indians Royals Alber Bell's 50th home run 5050 season and Dave Winfield's last hit game Warren how much time's left or is Now have a good weekend guys long weekend yes it is holiday weekend Reuben says Warren I found that also and have it on my watch list just waiting to buy it for you I think Ruben's going to just start taking credit for everybody's grills now waren that's awesome seriously if you're getting that have a chance to get Master sometimes you you got to do what you got to do to get the ticket though um I do want a a couple housekeeping things and I should have done this at the beginning shout out to SGC and to Penny uh slever um they have both reigned and uh will be supporting our show moving forward for uh the first part of this year so thank you to them uh helping us uh continue this silliness every other week um and supporting certainly sports card nation and uh everything John does and uh we do here so uh shout out to to them and to Isaac and uh really appreciate that and that's why we play the commercials at the beginning because we do believe in uh both companies uh a lot of you know that John does sub for SGC uh and certainly uh use SGC grading um and the Penny Saver if you haven't seen it Penny Saver excuse me is fantastic um they've really put out good stuff isa's doing a great job so just a shout out and a thank you to them uh Orlando thank you um I will be on hobby hotline tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. eastern and you can find that on the uh bench clear media uh YouTube channel so I will be on with uh Chris Carlin and ER America uh collect what you love uh excuse me love what you collect and so definitely uh definitely tune in and Warren before we leave it's you made an offer to buy it now keep us posted and definitely in the next episode let us know if you got it uh to everybody else hopefully I will get the uh the outro done correctly here but thank you very much for uh help me fly solo um for almost 45 minutes and uh best chat room in in the hobby we say it every time so like I always say say good night John good night John [Music]