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Sports guard Nations hobby is the people Wheely News and Interviews.
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It's your number one soul.
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Sportscarnations hobby is the people.
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Sports Gardation. What is up? Everybody? Welcome to episode three
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seventy nine Sports Cardination. So the last two weeks you
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heard Tim wermerline on the program. Great, great guy, hopefully
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great conversation in your opinion, in mind it already was.
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But well, next two weeks another Tim, and we'll talking
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about grinders. Right, this guy you look up grinder in
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the dictionary. This guy's picture is gonna be next to
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This guy has worked hard for everything he's earned and gotten,
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and he's doing very well for himself. And he's a
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super nice guy, and so you always root for nice
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guys to win and do well. And he's a new
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dad as well, so congrats to that to him. Who
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am I talking about? Tim mckenary from slab Bumpers. You
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might remember him as slab Strong, but working with BCW
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now as well, we're gonna learn kind of where it
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all started, how he grinded, how he got what he got,
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and love those kind of those stories. Right, people put
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their nose to the grindstone and make it happen, so
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Tim this week and next week, so four weeks in
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a row of Tim's if you're keeping track at home.
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I want to thank our sponsors as always, Iron sports Cards,
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with that being said, let's start the program. Excited to
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talk to my next guest on the Sportscardination guest. He's
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been on my content before and I didn't realize it
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was on the Hobby Quick Hits episode, which is a
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little as most people know, it's a little shorter version.
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But definitely wanted to have him on Sports Cardination and
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talk to him at a little bit longer length. This
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will be as most no, I do the two parts now,
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but at least we'll get to talk to him for
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a longer length of time. But I almost want to say,
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a man that doesn't need an introduction. You might recognize
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him with that hat. He's hard to miss. But Tim McHenry,
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welcome to the Sports Cardination slav Strong BCW you kind
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of uh, you know, man of Man of many hats,
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although you wear one big one.
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Yeah exactly. Yeah. Also, I sort and I'm on you
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know eBay Live, Fanax Live with sportscard consons as well,
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So yeah, definitely many hats.
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Yeah, like I said, you almost don't need an introduction.
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You kind of speak for yourself and and and whatnot.
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But I always love cutting it up with you, whether
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it's in person or this way. Man, You're you're you're,
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you know, an enthusiastic, passionate hobby guy. Right. We need
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more of that or as much of that as we
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can get, uh in in the hobby. Uh, you're a
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busy guy. Kind of before we kind of get where
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it's you know, started for you, I want to congratulate you.
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You're a new dad. Yeah, I'm an old dad, so
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you're a new dad. I mean, congratulations there. I'll let
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you kind of speak, you know, and share only what
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you you kind of want to share here with with
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the public as far as that.
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Goes, Yeah, definitely. I mean, from you know, from the
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pandemic to starting a business to you know, i'll say,
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marrying my wife and having now we have a five
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month old baby, little baby, little girl, two best things
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in my life right behind that has been a part
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of this hobby. So yeah, she's awesome. She's basically sitting
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up at the moment she kind of tips over, but yeah,
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she's doing great at five months, five months yesterday.
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Actually, well, congratulations, listen, I have a Actually I think
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I said twenty five before we started recording. This is
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how old I am, and he is. My son's twenty six.
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So you blink, you blink, dude, and like the thing happens.
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It's funny because my dad, my dad said when my
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wife was pregnant with my son, he said, John, when
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your son is born, time's gonna fly. And I just said,
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pop says, just like a saying on a wood plaque game.
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He goes, oh, you'll see. And here we are, what
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twenty six years later, and my dad's still around, thankfully.
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And you know, I tell them like, yeah, you weren't
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kidding when you when you said that, So time will
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time will fly. But congratulations, man, this, like you said,
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very few things can can if anything can match you know,
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being a dad. I'm sure mom as well, and you
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know it changes your life, usually for the better, and
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and that sort of thing. We'll get into some of
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your your travel schedule as we as we talk here.
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You're obviously not new to the hobby, but for you,
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when did the hobby start, So.
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For sure, I remember vividly opening nineteen ninety so I'm
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forty three, so at eight years old, vividly remember opening
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up Flare basketball. You know, the blue border, the blue
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border on the side one and uh man, that was great.
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That was an ugly year, though at the time we
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didn't we didn't think it, but later on like like
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that was not my favorite year, but I get it.
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But I think Jordan had three cards in that I
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want to say for sure he had two at least,
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but that was just at a time when like there's
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no autographs, right. A hobby box I think was probably
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what like forty dollars maybe fifty dollars, and I got
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a ton of packs, and I just remember just every Jordan,
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no matter what, goes right in the top lead. No Pennalsley,
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but at that time, I don't even know if they
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were around then, to be honest with you, but right
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in top loaders, that was a fun time. Now, my
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brother's three years older than me, and my dad collected baseball,
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so for sure there was collecting going on. I just
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don't really remember before eight years old, but yeah, vivid memory,
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and I still have that player set that same one
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from when I was eight years old.
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Wow, that's cool. I love hearing that because you can't
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replace it for me, Tim, And I'll make this story
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a lot short than it is. There was a seventy
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nine Reggie Jackson card opening that first pack of seventy
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nine tops. I'm fifty three, so I got ten years
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on Yeah, and you know that's that first pack, Like
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the fourth or fifth card in was the Reggie. I'm
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a New York City kid. I'm not a huge Reggie
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guy per se, but you know, if you're seventy nine
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in New York, Reggie Jackson could have ran for mayor. Yeah,
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and pulling that card was the start for me. I
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don't Unfortunately I don't have the original card. Well, what
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I did go back and buy like a P. S
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A eight. It's on the wall over there, and it's
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just there to remind me sort of where it all began.
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Right.
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It wasn't about dollar signs or that sort of thing.
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It was about the love of baseball. Uh and and
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then the card started and Reggie and the toast of
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New York especially at that time. And it's just a
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reminder when I when I glanced over there too, you know,
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always remember how you know what it's all about and
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where it all started. So that's cool here and you
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say that you still have that that Fleer set as
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a reminder to you kind to where it all began.
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Obviously you have more income as an adult than maybe
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in ninety two ninety three kind of when you know,
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you travel out with shows and events and different things.
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You know, when you look to add to your PC,
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are you what are you looking at? Or do you
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kind of just whatever kind of moves your met or
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do you have sort of a plan.
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I definitely have a plan. I actually got a grail
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of mine at this past national so don't get me wrong.
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I would love PSA tens SGC ten CGC tens. It
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doesn't matter back at ten's right, or nine fives actually
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because those are cool two, So that part doesn't matter
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to me. It's because my favorite number is five, so
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I collect PSA fives. It just so happens that a
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PSA five and a nineteen sixty one Lenny Wilkins is
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not a bad grade, right because it's a sixty one though,
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But I but I had just got a PSA five
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Lenny Wilkins, so the grade in the card is one
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of the grails that I was searching for for years.
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Finally found a good copy, like a good five at
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the National. But there was a point too, Like you said,
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there's a few cards that I sold years and years
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ago that for example, nineteen eighty six Dominique Wilkins. My
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father gave me eighty six Wilkins and the first Becket
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on my tenth birthday. I ended up selling. I still
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have the Beckett, but I ended up selling the Dominique
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at some point, and it wasn't even that much either,
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but it was during the pandemic and you know, just
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a little extra money, so I got that back. I
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have a nineteen seventy nine SGC five Julius Irving when
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he was playing for the Nets from the ABA, so
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I got that back because I ended up selling that.
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There's one card that I so the biggest card I've
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ever pulled out of a pack. At the time, it
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wasn't worth what it is now. But I pulled a
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legacy collection ninety six ninety seven rookie Steph Mowberry and
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I'm a massive surprise. Even though I'm from New England,
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I'm a Minnesota Timberwolves fan, and so that's the one
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I'm looking to get back as well, but those are
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just more expensive now, especially being from that Flare showcase
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ninety six ninety seven, which that's got to be one
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of my, if not one, number two favorite sets. But
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in general, so you can see right there, you see Providence.
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You would notice all of my room, all these slabs
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you see, they're or Rhode Island related. So I'm a massive,
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just in general Rhode Island fan. And that's everything from
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I have a nineteen thirty six post serial King Philip
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card so Indian chewing gum, everything from even like four
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episodes of X Files were shot in Rhode Island. X
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Files has a set from that year. I mean, anything
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you can think of Rhode Island related I collect. And
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then on top of that, my favorite basketball player of
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all the time is Isaiah Ryder from the Timbles, which
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people always think is random. I'm a massive Braves fan,
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so I collected a ton of Brave stuff.
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So I gotta ask you, I gotta ask you, tim
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and I love that. Do you have that hometown pride, Providence?
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Why not the Celtics or what was the what was
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the Tamy just mentioned the Braves. Yeah, how how are
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you not a Red Sox and a Celtics.
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It's not that I'm not a fan, and I appreciate
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when New England's jumping, the teams are winning, right, and
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it's a fun atmosphere. We got the praise and everything
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and just in general, right, I am a Patriots fan.
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But that's because in ninety six we went to the
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Super Bowl. Somewhat fourteen years old at that time, right,
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so you're still like in it. But so my grandfather,
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massive Warren spawn fan, and we used to go to
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the card shows in the nineties. I remember one time
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Warren Spawd, Mickey Mantle, and Eddie Matthews were all signing
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autographs at the same table. This is to think about
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having those three together just at one table signing is crazy. Now.
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I played third base, so I'm Masterchip Chipper Jones fan.
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And in nineteen ninety what was it, I forget what year,
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but I won like it was like a little League game, right,
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and they gave me MVP of like one particular game.
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And in that game, I actually, actually I don't have
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it displayed. I was given it was made in nineteen
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ninety one. It was like one of those commemorative plates.
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It was Tom Glavin and it's like beautiful. I still
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I actually got that signed by him like months ago.
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So it just all happened naturally. And then, like I said,
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Chipper Jones joins the team. I'm already playing third base.
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Andrew Jones is my second favorite player. I get to
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meet him in a few weeks. And the Timberwolves thing was,
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it was ninety two or ninety four when Isaiah Ryder
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does the first time I see through the legs in
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the dunk contest, right, So I'm a young, impressionable I've
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always had love for the New Land teams. But so
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it was Isaiah Rider that got me involved with the Timberwolves.
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And now after that, you know, they got Garnett and Marburry,
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so I just stick with that team. But yeah, the
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Braves is like my grandfather loved Warren Spond. My father
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would always talk about it, and then obviously they were
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also amazing in the nineties, so you got to just
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pick up on it. But I'm a Celtics fan. I'm
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a Bulls fan from the nineties, like those teams are amazing.
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I collect Jordan's Robin Pippen, but yeah, like it just
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kind of all happened naturally to.
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You, sort of inherited the love that your grandfather. You
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just sort of continue the tradition. Nothing wrong with that.
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I appreciate. I didn't ask you, like in a negative way.
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I always love when someone's from an area and they're
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they're maybe not that their their first team is not
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what you would think of. So for example, and I'll
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make this story shorter, I'm a New York City kid.
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I'm now in Syracuse, but I was a Steelers fan
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from a very young age at seven in New York
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and all my friends like beat me up about it,
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and how how do you like the Steelers new men?
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Uh?
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This is Jets or Giants country? And it was the
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mean Joe Green Co commercial with the kid in the
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jersey that kid out of resemblance to me at the
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time we were actually the age, and I just said
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I didn't like the Jets or Giants had like, no,
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there's no players that moved the meet for me. And
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I just said, I'm a Steeler fan. And that was
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like nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight, and I never waivered.
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And in the eighties and yes, they were went in
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the Steel Curtain. It was a Super Bowl error for them,
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but they had some really lean years in the eighties
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and I never jumped ship. I stayed with him until
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the whole time.
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I also started like when I got older, right, let
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me talk about you having more money. Plus eBay's around.
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I know eBay was around years ago, but it's different now.
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So I have I try to collect off of how
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I felt as a kid in terms of the nostalgia, right,
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so I collect You should know this name. I think
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my only Pittsburgh collector the collection is Greg Lloyd. I
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love Greg Lloyd, like I just remember there was a
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there was a game and they did an interview with
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him and they were talking about his his tolerance for pain,
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and I remember this. I should look up on YouTube.
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I haven't seen it well. And I just came a
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massive Greg Lloyd fan. But like I also collected guys
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like Jesse Tuggle down in Atlanta, Tim Jwa who was Atlanta.
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I'm trying to think the bigger guys from like the nineties,
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but yeah, there's I always I just think back to
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like when I was watching like these guys are so
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like awesome and yees. So I still have a Greg
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Lloyd collection now from from your Steelers.
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Yeah, very underrated player for the Steelers, Like people don't
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talk about him enough, but when he was when he played,
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like you said in the Midnight, he was dominating and
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and you know, as as a lot of NFL careers
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are there, not as long as other sports baseball, basketball,
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So that's the trade off you sort of make. But
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he has nothing to apologize. He Steeler fans are very
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fond of him, Like when he does appearances, there is
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a very long line for Greg Lloyd, who can Stealer
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fans appreciate him because they watched him week in, uh
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and week out. And it's funny here and you say
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that not necessarily being a Steeler fan, but knowing about
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him and appreciating how he played in the motor that
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he had. But yeah, definitely, he's definitely a Steeler Hall
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of Famer, not quite a you know, you have to
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look at the stats. He's probably a borderline even NFL
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Hall of Famer. You could make a case. I think
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his career might be a little too short. But the
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years he played, he was a dominating defensive player who
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kind of wrecked the game, changed the game for the
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opposing offense, so I won't get any argument from me
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on Greg Lloyd. One of my it's funny. I don't
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know if you remember. It's funny here in Saint Greg
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Lloyd because Rebock back then made a reversible jersey, so
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it was the home It was the home Steeler jersey
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and the vis away steel jersey. It's the same jersey,
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just turned it inside out depending on what color you
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wanted to wear. It was really cool. I'm surprised they
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really haven't, like a lot of things kind of come
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back and fashion, they haven't brought that one back yet,
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but in the nine they did. And I left that
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at someone's house and I never saw it again. But
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it was a Greg Mine was mine was a Greg
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Lloyd reversible jerseys. So uh, and I almost until you
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said Greg Lloyd, I almost forgot about it. Brought the
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jersey back up.
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His p s a ten rookies like forty dollars.
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Yeah, he's criminally undervalue and Pittsburgh Steeler fans know about him.
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People who are football fans like die Hard, Uh, die
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in the wool, like like yourself. Yeah, uh, he didn't
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slip by you, but some other people don't realize, you know,
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the greatness of Greg Lloyd and really started that that
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linebacker tradition and ket like you said, Kevin Green and
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and then so on and so forth. So yeah, I
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love those stories right that you don't have to like
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just the people from your hometown. Like I get the
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there there's a you know, a pride in where you're from.
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I'm a big Brooklyn guy, So someone's from Brooklyn, maybe
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you take a little bit extra pride. I get that.
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Even growing up in New York and I know he
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was a Red Sox, but I was a big fan
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of Kargastrabs. He was also from Long Island, so that
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had something to do with it. But you know he's
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still you know, he still played for the rival Red
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Sox and but he was just such a great player.
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You know, I was a big Tony Gwynn fan. He
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was a West Coast guys as most know, but just
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such a great player and hit her. Just went about
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his business, not a trash talker. And you know, so
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you just gravitate too different things.
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And what have you.
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And you know, when I think when you, when I
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think of Providence being I've been in Syracuse a while
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now to Tim and I think back to the old
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Big East days, right with Syracuse and Providence and Saint
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John's Villanova. And it's sad sometimes when I think about that,
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because it'll never be like that again, right. You know,
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ESPN did a great show. I'm assuming you probably saw
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it require him for the Big East, and it was.
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And that's the thing, though, Dave Garrett's Gather is our guy.
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So there's a lot of pride. I have a lot
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of I have a lot of Rhode Island pride, a
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lot of Providence pro I didn't go to Providence College.
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I'm from East Providence, Hode Island. You know, I was
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a big fan of Actually had a my coach for
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baseball and basketball. His name is Steve McDonald, on the radio.
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He goes by Jim Shorts on sports where he was
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the voice of URI and at that time he would
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take us to like the team to the games. And
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I actually that was like the Catino mobile Tyson Wheelers
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years all the way up until Lamar Autumn left. And
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so like I have just a massive college Province college fan.
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But just like like I said, anything Rhode Island, anything
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that can connect me back. And the good thing about
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Rhode Island is obviously it's an old state. You know,
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blah blah blah, some great vintage stuff. You know, we
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used to have a pro baseball team, the Providence Grays.
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We used to have the Providence Steamrollers. That was there
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wasn't NBA but pro basketball. And so I've been able
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to collect the eight guys from Rhoe Island and the
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two six set, the five guys from the forty eight
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bowmen basketball set from Rodine. So it's it's honestly been
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just a ton of fun to try to collect these
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things too. Like it's just and yeah, I was gonna say,
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like I'm missing one Cogan's chip. If you don't know,
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the people out there know the Colgan chips are there
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from like nineteen ten to nineteen twelve.
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But it's like the road out there, you never you
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never know someone might have it listening, and yeah, you
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find the needle in the haystack. Which one is it?
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So it's cold it's actually part of the Cold and
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Chip set, but it was the tin tops, which is
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the rarest of the set. And it's a guy Perry.
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There's one on eBay. The guy's asking it's like a
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SGC three, which is a good grade for that. The
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guy's asking twenty two hundred out of my budget. I'm
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always trying to find it in the wild, and every
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time I talk to a vintage guy that knows what
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it is, they're like, buddy, that's like the most rare one.
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I'm like, that's part of the fun, right, Like, once
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I have it, what's you know? What am I going
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to do? But yeah, that's so that's part of the fun.
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That and the other reason why I travel so much day.
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Yeah, the chase to chase the journey, right, That's that's
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one that I think the best bet is like to
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find it ungraded and then purchase it at a more
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reasonable price and then you know, if you want to
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get it graded yourself or if you want to keep
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it and then you know the way you bought it.
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I mean, you know, that'll be a choice you have
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to make when when your fake you know, cross that
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bridge when you get there. But uh, you know, listen,
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you get around more than I do as far as
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shows and traveling, so at some point you're gonna you're
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gonna run into it. Maybe if someone's listening, uh today
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and here's that. Uh you know, I'll have you at
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the end. You'll give out where and get a hold
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of it. Maybe there'll be something along those lines too,
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so uh but uh, you know, and then when you
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get it right, you know, for me it was the
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Jackie rookie and just the journey to once you acquire
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it and you think back of how you know, it's
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the stories right behind the cards and behind the items.
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The items are great in their own right, but I
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think sometimes it's the stories of how we got it,
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how the whole thing went down, someone heard you needed it, uh,
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you know, or or even the negotiation itself is fun
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and story uh in itself. So I think sometimes we
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we blue sighted at or don't always think about about that.
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But so let's go, let's get tim his uh his
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last one there on on the Colgans and uh put
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that chapter to to the rest. But I love all joking,
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you know, I love when someone takes pride where they're from, right,
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I think, you know, we just we just got done
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watching the Olympics, right, and we're all, I don't care
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where in the US you're from, West coast, east coast, midwest,
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right for that that almost two weeks, we're most likely
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all cheering on, you know, the USA teams or athletes
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to get go, you know, to perform. Well, we've just
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seen listen, you know, the men and women's hockey team
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taking the gold down both games against Canada, which would
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frank uh, well, the US women were the favorite, but
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the Canadian men were the favorite on that side of
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the thing. And so uh, I don't believe it's ever
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happened before where they've won, uh in the same year,
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and women's hockey sort of a newer entrant into the sports.
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So uh, you know, who knows, if, if it when
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it will happen again. It's not easy to do. And
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uh so you take a lot of pride right in
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your country, the region you're from. I do it with
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New York City as well, and so nothing to apologize
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for it. I always appreciate hearing those uh hearing those stories.
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So you know, going into many know you you you
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invented the slab strongs, the the you know, the rubber
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protectors that protect the slabs that we we love and
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care about kind of talk about. And I know you've
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probably talked about this at Nauledge and Timber for those
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that don't know kind of where that all started and
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the evolution of the product, and and you know where
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it is today, what you're doing sort of today, maybe
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even because of it.
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Yeah, I would say, so, I don't mean this. I
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don't think anyone will take this disrespectfully. You know, during
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the pandemic, I didn't lose anybody, so I don't mean
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to discount it. But I lost my job March fifteenth,
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twenty twenty. And honestly, without that happening, I wouldn't I
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wouldn't be sitting in front of you right now. I
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was managing restaurants for pretty much my entire adult life
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and then so obviously the restaurant business got really hurt,
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and so like so March fifteenth, I lose my job.
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I was actually supposed to go to New York City
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that two days after that because Providence was playing in
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the Big East Tournament and so we didn't we didn't
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get to go visit. So Providence Saint John's was actually
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there were a few games happening Providence Saint John's. They
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ended at halftime. I don't know if many people know
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what games are playing at the time, So Providence Saint
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john was cut at halftime. And that's when it was like, oh,
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this is like getting real type of thing, right. But
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so after that was like, okay, let's make a little
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00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.160
extra money besides what we're getting from the government. And
475
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.079
so I just went to start selling all the stuff
476
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.359
in my collection that didn't mean anything to me, right,
477
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.960
So you know, I sat there for like a week.
478
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.920
I got like four or five hundred. This is before
479
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.200
scanners and everything, well not before scanners, but before like
480
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.079
people had all these new apps. And so I had
481
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.160
about five hundred cards up on eBay and I was
482
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:23.680
making good money, right, people were spending money and that
483
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:25.920
was cool. And then I was sitting next to my
484
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.960
wife one day and she had the cricket machine and
485
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.160
I had an old screw down and the old screw
486
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.400
downs are about the same size as a slab, right,
487
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.640
So I just wanted to I thought to myself, how
488
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:40.640
do I make the slabs look cool? It had nothing
489
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.079
to do with protection at that time. I just wanted
490
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:46.920
to like color coordinate and make them look cooler. So
491
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:50.079
I took my wife's cricket sticker things and cut it
492
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.720
up and made which I have it. I still have
493
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.599
that piece somewhere in here. And I was like, oh,
494
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.799
this is a cool idea, right, and I, like my
495
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:00.240
wife was like, yeah, it seems like a cool idea. Yeah.
496
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.359
So then I had a three D printed version made
497
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:05.559
cost me about two hundred dollars and at the time
498
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.079
it actually slid in the top like a top lawyer
499
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:09.960
because a three D printed right the way I have
500
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.519
it now. So after I pay two hundred dollars for
501
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.920
that initial sample, I went to I went down to
502
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.640
about six hundred dollars to my name because my wife
503
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:23.000
also worked in the restaurant business. So like we were
504
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.039
just this is before the check started going out, right,
505
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.880
So yeah, we're kind of just like a little bit
506
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.559
hurting for money, right, But I have a very beautiful,
507
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:35.279
very awesome wife that like when she saw what I
508
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.240
came up with, what it meant to me. She was like,
509
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:38.599
go for it, Like what do we got to lose
510
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.920
type of things. So I then started the patent process,
511
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:45.880
which which is crazy to me. I actually got a patent.51200:27:45.920 --> 00:27:47.359
So you can go to Google patents, type in my51300:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.839
name and I'm it says I'm an inventor. John's insane51400:27:50.079 --> 00:27:50.839
says I'm an inventor.51500:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.880
Well, yeah, well listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you51600:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.559
the credit. You're not giving your yourself here, Tim, You51700:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.200
did invent it, you know what I mean, Like that's51800:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.960
what an inventor does, is in renting. No one did51900:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.359
it before you, you know what I mean. So you52000:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.200
took the initiative, you know, uh, you know, maybe it52100:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.880
wasn't the telephone per se, like you know, Alexander Grebell52200:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.799
or you know, but regardless, right, you you made a product,52300:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.319
You came up with the idea. You put your own52400:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.359
money up right at risk, like nothing nothing in life's52500:28:23.400 --> 00:28:28.039
guaranteed except death in Texas. And uh, you know, so52600:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.200
you you took a risk and and you know, as52700:28:31.279 --> 00:28:34.240
we as we know today, it turned out to be52800:28:34.720 --> 00:28:38.240
a good one. But yeah, give you like you are renter.52900:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.799
Like you know, I rented sports cardation podcasts for the53000:28:42.880 --> 00:28:46.359
two cents. That's where I didn't invent podcasts in general.53100:28:46.599 --> 00:28:50.240
I'm kidding, but no, all joking aside, like that's that's53200:28:50.279 --> 00:28:53.440
your baby, man. Like you you know, give yourself some creditors.53300:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.400
So I know you're being modest, but I wanted to.53400:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.319
I appreciate it, and it's funny you have that product53500:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.319
behind you. So so after not my product, but Corey.53600:29:02.480 --> 00:29:07.039
So after I started putting in the work, right, I53700:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.759
get the patent office, I get all this other stuff right,53800:29:10.119 --> 00:29:13.319
But I didn't know, Like I went to card shows53900:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.960
as a kid all through the nineties, I had to54000:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.680
at some point show people what I made.54100:29:18.759 --> 00:29:18.880
Right.54200:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.000
You can't just have this idea keep it to yourself.54300:29:21.279 --> 00:29:25.119
So I actually reached out over Facebook to Corey from54400:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.200
Show your Slabs and I said, look, I'm seeing an54500:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.200
ad for your product all over Facebook ads or whatever.54600:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.519
I think you have a very cool product. Can I54700:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.359
show you my product? And at the time, I was54800:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.359
still patent pending, and I had this mind frame like,54900:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.119
oh no, everyone's going to try to steal my idea.55000:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.599
So I actually said, hey, do you mind if we55100:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.440
meet up. He was like, come down to Baltimore. So55200:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.720
about a week after I talked to him, I drove55300:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.240
down to Baltimore just with a couple of samples and55400:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.880
I said, look, this is my product. He thought it55500:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.920
was cool. Corey is one of the best people in55600:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.880
the world. So he at that point says, Hey, there's55700:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.240
this thing called the Dallas Card Show coming up, and55800:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.519
now this is the first one that is like when55900:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.839
after the pandemic, this is the first show before the56000:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.640
national I don't know if you remember that the Dallas56100:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.880
Card Show was the first show is May twentieth of56200:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.839
twenty twenty one. So Corey says, hey, you can come56300:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.920
down and set up at my table. At that point,56400:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.160
first I took the initiative and did it with him.56500:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.480
I only had thirteen total pieces, right because I had56600:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.200
some samples made. But what do I do? I go56700:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.680
down there. I met guys like Clint from Zion Cases,56800:30:31.359 --> 00:30:35.400
Dan from Stand Up Displays, Aaron from slab Stocks, and like,56900:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.799
all those guys had cool products and they were all like, oh,57000:30:39.000 --> 00:30:40.720
this is a good idea, this is school. So that57100:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.279
gave me a lot of confidence. Then I walked around57200:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.440
Ryan Johnson put me on one of his YouTube videos.57300:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.720
I walked up to Jeff Wilson, I threw it at57400:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.559
his feet, and a few months after that, I end57500:30:52.680 --> 00:30:57.599
up getting an investment from Jeff Wilson. So now after57600:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.920
having only six hundred dollars to my name taking the57700:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.039
chance to go to Dallas, I now get in an57800:31:02.079 --> 00:31:07.440
investment from Jeff Wilson, and the momentum starts going. You know,57900:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.400
obviously with that investment, we're able to print enough to58000:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.240
actually make it affordable for people, but also all these colors, right,58100:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.519
and that's when things get serious, right, because at that point,58200:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.920
Jeff Wilson I think he has like probably half the58300:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.079
fillowers he did as he does now. But at that58400:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.960
point it's like, oh, like Jeff Wilson's the face, and58500:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.599
I also got buddies at card Ladder, like all these58600:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.160
other people are like just accepting this new product coming in.58700:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.400
This guy that talks with the Providence accent, that just58800:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.480
is having fun, just like I just wanted to have58900:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.599
fun in the hobby, right, And that leads to I'll59000:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.799
say this, just like when you're going to a show59100:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.279
and you're just there to buy cards from vendors there's59200:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.480
nothing like networking in this hobby because obviously, like I59300:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.480
had a business, so I need a network in that sense.59400:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.720
But you got you want to be very reliable and59500:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.920
trustworthy because you might have a grail that you met59600:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.319
a vendor that's gonna call you first before he calls59700:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.000
anyone else. I always tell people it doesn't matter if59800:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.240
you're just buying cars, like just be good to people,59900:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.599
network and keep your words. So and that's what I60000:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.680
started doing. And then I had mentioned this before we60100:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.559
started recording, like you know, I just had a baby.60200:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.880
She's five months old, my wife, So those are like60300:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.000
the two like those are my two top of the60400:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.839
food chain things in my life. But then I get60500:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.240
a call from a guy named Jeff Gordon, just like60600:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.240
the race car driver, but not the race car driver,60700:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.680
who is the CSO fanatics at that time, and he60800:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.200
face times me John and tells me I'm gonna be60900:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.359
on a baseball card and they're gonna put me in61000:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.960
twenty twenty three toughs Big League, right, So it's like61100:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.000
mind blown. They let me wear the hat. Actually MLB,61200:32:43.119 --> 00:32:44.440
if you ever see the car, I have it right there.61300:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.160
But if anyone I see, yeah, I've seen it.61400:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.720
Yeah, major League Baseball made them airbrush my original logo off,61500:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.160
which was kind of devastating.61600:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.920
Yeah, it was kind of I laughed because I get it,61700:32:56.119 --> 00:32:57.799
but you know it's yeah.61800:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.240
But they let me do my own bio. So if61900:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.519
you read the back of my card, there's a couple62000:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.839
of little funny jobs I take up of my friends.62100:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.039
Right on there. I talk about where I'm from, East Providence,62200:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.799
and like, I would have never thought that, man, I62300:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.799
would have never thought that people would take notice enough62400:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.680
to like say, hey, like you deserve to be on62500:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.160
and there's a ton of other people that would have62600:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.759
deserved to be on in the first initial twenty twiny things.62700:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.920
Well here you know how this goes. And this isn't62800:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.240
even just a sports card hobby or any time you62900:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.319
accomplished something, right, there's gonna be someone out there that,63000:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.559
like we'll say, and I remember when these cards came63100:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.799
out and people were like, this person should have been63200:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.400
on it before this. You know, it's like lists, right,63300:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.240
the top ten lists. Anytime someone oh, the top ten63400:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.440
best quarterbacks, Right, you're gonna have some oh man, this63500:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.440
guy should have been on it, not this guy. Right,63600:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.720
it's the same thing when this card set came out63700:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.000
with Big League, like everyone was you know, I get63800:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.039
if you want to like nominate someone, but I thought63900:33:59.079 --> 00:34:01.680
it got a little bit a little personal with some64000:34:01.799 --> 00:34:05.279
of the attacks, and like, listen, if someone asked you64100:34:05.359 --> 00:34:06.519
to be like, hey, do you want to be on64200:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.039
a baseball card, everyone's saying yes, Like don't go after64300:34:11.280 --> 00:34:15.639
a guy or a lady for accepting such an honor,64400:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.519
Like that's you know, that's my that was my issue,64500:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.719
and I remember this at the time. It's him like64600:34:22.079 --> 00:34:23.800
if you want to say, hey, man, I would have64700:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.079
really liked to see so and so in that set.64800:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.199
I get that, But to like kind of put someone64900:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.079
else down in the process, that's where like, don't make65000:34:34.119 --> 00:34:36.599
it personal. If you want to you want to politic65100:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.880
for someone you were fond of or you know, being worthy,65200:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.000
that's that's fine. But you know, don't take a shot65300:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.920
at someone else who's grinding and their grind is paid65400:34:47.320 --> 00:34:51.119
at least this dividend, right, Like who you anyone would65500:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.239
have said yes most likely or ninety nine percent right65600:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.840
would would say yes. So, uh nothing, you know, but yeah,65700:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.239
I remember that. Finally, some of those the stuff that65800:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.559
surrounded them so I.65900:35:03.599 --> 00:35:05.559
Don't think many people. Well I don't know why people66000:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.639
would know this, but we were supposed to have autographs66100:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.280
in that as well, and so they were supposed to66200:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.599
be like I was literally like, you know how Top66300:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.559
says it, right, they send you the box, and so66400:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.239
Top sent me a hundred cards for friends and family,66500:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.159
but they were supposed to send another fifty for autographs,66600:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.360
and I had I had the best plan. Now people66700:35:24.400 --> 00:35:25.800
do it. Now. I'm not the first person to think this,66800:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.320
but I was gonna shout out all my friends, like,66900:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.000
you know, everyone's gonna have one of them. Yeah, everyon's67000:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.679
gonna have like a one of one. But from what67100:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.519
I understand, I haven't confirmed this with my buddy that67200:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.079
now works at Tops, but from what I understand, they67300:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.079
were nervous that if, like someone pulled my autograph that67400:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.119
they were like, oh, this is in place of the hit, right,67500:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.480
So I don't think they wanted to mess with having67600:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.239
real baseball players autographs and I was, but I ended67700:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.639
up signing all hundred cards, made them all one of one's.67800:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.159
They're all completely different, and there's actually one on eBay67900:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.320
right now someone's trying to sell my because here's another68000:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.360
cool part PSA and Beckett. I don't know if JSA does,68100:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.360
but PSA and Beckett will often authenticate my auto. And68200:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.199
I had to sign ten times for Beckett and it's68300:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.239
just it's crazy. And then so uh so.68400:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.760
They never took they never took the sign cards from you.68500:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.559
No, no, they never said so the hundred they sent68600:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.239
them friends and family, and then I got word like, hey,68700:36:24.400 --> 00:36:25.519
we're gonna do autographs.68800:36:25.840 --> 00:36:29.119
And then they were supposed to send you more. They68900:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.880
was supposed to be distributed in the product, but it69000:36:32.039 --> 00:36:32.519
just never.69100:36:32.800 --> 00:36:33.800
Yeah, it just never happened.69200:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.519
Happened. I was good, I thought you sent them back,69300:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.400
and then they just decided not to do it. And69400:36:40.559 --> 00:36:43.440
I'm like, well, just put him in another like can69500:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.599
still relate, you know, put him in another product, distribute69600:36:46.639 --> 00:36:49.119
him that way and and make him in addition, I69700:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.960
know you mentioned like maybe p oh I got you know,69800:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.960
uh you know Tim big Hair, Tim Auto, but I69900:36:56.079 --> 00:37:00.440
wanted my trout, you know, but do it in addition70000:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.320
like that doesn't count as the the if it's a70100:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.840
one hip or box or whatever it is, it's in70200:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.159
addition to you know what I mean. That way, no one,70300:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.159
no one gets bent out of shape or that sort.70400:37:10.960 --> 00:37:12.760
Of Well, it was cool. Yeah, that that was a70500:37:12.800 --> 00:37:14.320
real fun experience. So yeah, that was kind of my70600:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.639
hobby journey. And then and kind of end this part70700:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.599
of the question is then, so after all that happens70800:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.199
for me BCW supplies. I'm sure everyone's heart of BCW supplies.70900:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.719
Right by the way, s CNP ten percent off BCW supplies,71000:37:32.079 --> 00:37:36.320
they end up licensing slab strongs for me. So they're71100:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.880
called slab bumpers now, right, and that's for kind of71200:37:40.039 --> 00:37:42.119
like you know, I forget what they word for it.71300:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.039
It's a basic Google right, Like it makes more sense71400:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.280
to call it slab bumpers because it fits.71500:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.800
Just the cool cat man loved Tim. I've gotten to71600:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.559
know him through the years and he's always been helpful71700:37:53.559 --> 00:37:58.519
and friendly, uh to me. And you know again, dude71800:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.039
has worked his butt off to get where he is.71900:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.239
He's still working hard, he's not sitting on his laurels,72000:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.239
and always enjoy chopping it up with him talking to him.72100:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.840
And we're not done. This was part one, as we know,72200:38:13.960 --> 00:38:18.400
we do two parts, so we'll be talking with Tim72300:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.400
some more next week as well. So hopefully you come72400:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.880
back and hear the conclusion of our I consider great conversation.72500:38:28.039 --> 00:38:33.840
Hopefully you do as well. So we're gonna have our hobbies.72600:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.920
The People Announcer the Week kind of wrap up this72700:38:37.119 --> 00:38:37.960
week's episode.72800:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.559
Time for our hobby is the People Announcer.72900:38:42.239 --> 00:38:42.960
Of the Week.73000:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.199
This is your pala vow from Nascard Radio. Never forget73100:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.119
the hobby is the People.73200:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.840
If you'd like to be the hobby is the People73300:38:53.840 --> 00:38:57.039
Announcer of the Week. To have one four MP three73400:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.360
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