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Spawns Garnation, What is up? Everybody? Welcome to Episode three
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seventy eight of Sports Cardination. Before we get started, I
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highlight some great people in the hobby that deserve that
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kind of shine. So we're back with part two with
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Tim Wermaline, who's went full time in the hobby. Love
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to see that, and he's a grinder man. He's going
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to be very He's already successful and he's going to
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be even more successful. So this is part two of
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our conversation. You can go back and listen to part
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one if you have it. But uh, and even if
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you have it, I try to make these where even
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if you miss one part it's it's it's not a
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big deal if you listen to part two before part one.
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So with that being said, uh, let's continue our conversation
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with Tim. Here is part two of our conversation with
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Tim wormerline enjoy. I know you said, you know before
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we start recording, you go to shows too to buy?
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Is what's easier for you to buy online like you
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said on social media or in person?
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It's probably easier to buying in person for the speed
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aspect of it. Look my card quick, you know. Yeah,
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just say I'm averaging last three. You know it'll come
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up to the average and usually is shoot like an
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eighty five percent offer. It's always happened. No, but that's
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where I like to be. Not many people are taking
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eighty percent anymore. But you know, I say it cargoes
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for sending I I'll shoot a sixty five offer to him.
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You know, I'll run card by carly debt as quick
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as I can and move on the next table. You know,
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I'm only a show for three four hours, so I
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want to make use my time online. It's not so bad.
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I can do the same thing, make a list, you know,
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show whoever I'm buying, Hey, this is what I'm offering
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on these cards or for a lot they encounter, I'll
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counter back. Usually deals done. I very consistent sellers online,
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so that's nice. They know when I pay, They know
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they can get rid of inventory quick and I buy quick.
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Are you when you're buying are you looking are you
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narrowing it down like, hey, I'm looking for you know,
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whoever you know Joe Burrow when he's playing well or
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like or are you just looking for quantities in general?
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Or are you are you becoming more selective or you're
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just looking for quantity over quality or is it kind
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of depends on the moment.
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Depends on the moment. But for the most part, I'll
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buy any Jordan's, Kobe's or Tawny's Lebron's. I'll buy that
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stuff any day. That stuff's never heard him move. Yeah,
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I'll like to like the quantity aspect. You know, I'll
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buy PSA slabs all the way down at ten bucks.
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You know, that doesn't bother me. You know, as longs
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are as long as they're not expecting ten bucks, I'll
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buy it.
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Yeah. Well, here's the thing, as you want to know, right,
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it costs more to grade to card than ten bucks.
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So I hear that all the time at shows, and like,
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it's not my fault.
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You grated it.
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That's what it's like. You know, buy the house or
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a car sometimes that that depreciates depending on the model
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or the house or the neighborhood. And so you know,
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just because you've spent who knows what for cardon grading
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doesn't mean that works both ways.
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Right.
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You could grade something and you make a lot more money,
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or you can grade something and potentially lose. That's the
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chance you take. And as you you well know to him,
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write a lot of this is going to be based
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on performance. If a guy doesn't, you know, perform, well
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that that era is going to go uh to the
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left and down right if and then reverse, if they're
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they're killing it out there, it's going to go up
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into the right and you got to sort of you know,
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you hope when you're you're speculating right that you you're
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right six out of ten times, if not more right. Uh.
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That's where that's where the value or the ROI uh
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comes in. Have you have you run into you know,
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in buying online? Uh, and then where it's shipped to you,
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have you run into any issues, whether that be you know,
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something getting lost, uh, something not being sent, something being
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sent that wasn't what you originally agreed to purchase. You know,
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how would you describe your experience and you know, it's
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one thing buying in person where you know what you're buying,
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it's in your hand, how would you rate like buying
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you're you're you know, not in person transaction online ninety.
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Nine percent of the time, it's pretty good. I buy
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a lot in the same people, so it makes it nice.
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I did have one transaction I was going through with
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the guy, and I was it was probably like a
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two Grand Dealers, so nothing too terrible per se, big
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big bunch of greatest, a bunch of raw stuff. And
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you know, we agreed to price on a certain set
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of cards and he's like, oh, I got these for sale,
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so I ran through those. Okay, I'll give you this.
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Oh I got these for sale too. I'm like it
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was just like non. It was going off for like
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hours and days. I'm like, dude, yeah, killing me here,
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but he sent me everything hassle trying.
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To get it.
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John.
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I was like, I'm ready to call this dude out,
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but I don't like doing that right away. I got
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majority of this stuff. There was like one like forty
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five dollars c J. Stroud slab that didn't come in.
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I'm like, when what I got majority of it, I'm
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gonna make money on it. I'm probably not gonna do
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a deal with them again.
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Yeah, you learn trial and error, right and uh yeah,
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that's that's the you know, Unfortunately, that's that's the chance
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what we take with you know online, you know, sales
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and whatnot. As a seller, where where do you Where
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are you selling your cards? Marketplaces? eBay? Like where where
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where can people buy your inventory?
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I do a lot a lot on Twitter x, you know,
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especially cards that have comps. I like selling on there
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because people know what they go for because they're gonna
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look it up anyways. So on their stuff that doesn't
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have like direct comps, I'll just put up for nine
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and incent auction eBay. You guys decide what it's worth.
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So those are two main places. Uh, coup and discords
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every now and then Instagram once in a while. It's
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hard to do everything everywhere.
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Yeah, the problem I had have sometimes tim like I'll
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I'll put some of my show inventory on eBay and
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then I'm doing a show and you know, I've been
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at a show, and then my phone will light up
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and like, hey, this item sold on eBay. It's in
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my showcase, and I obviously I got to pull it
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out of there to get ready to ship it once
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I get home from the show. Once, maybe once or twice,
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I had something sell at the show and I didn't
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in the reverse and I didn't pull it off eBay
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in fast enough and so I double I double sold.
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It's only happened once or twice. You know, I apologize
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to the the eBay buyer, like, hey, you know I
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didn't I didn't pull it off eBay in time. It's
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been sold at the show. I will say the two
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occasions that's happened, the the eBay purchaser was very under
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no problem, It's okay, I get it.
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You know.
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One guy even told me I've done the same thing,
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so I can't be mad at check it. So I
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tried to avoid that. I try to avoid that as
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much as I can, But you're gonna say something I had.
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I sold the couple wrestling cards on online and I
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went to the show the next day. While I was
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at the show, some guy bought two of them off
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eBay and I messaged him like, hey, this one's sold yesterday.
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I forgot to take it down. It goes and leaves
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me a neutral feedback. I'm like, I apologize and everything,
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and you know, you're.
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Like, yeah, some people are like that. You know, they
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just they're bittered or midder. They don't they don't know,
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they don't get it. You know, it can happen. I've
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had it happen to me where I've purchased something, let's
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say on eBay. Any seller will message me like I've
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had a message like I can't find the car. I've
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got a message if I have the car, but I
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noticed it's damaged. You know you still want it, I
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give you a partial fun they send a picture of it,
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and the same thing. I've had people say I sold
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it at my show. I forgot to pull it down
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off eBay so I don't have it. I'm reversing the transaction,
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my apology for the inconvenience. And you know, because I've
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had it happen with me twice, I have to understand
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that right instance. You hope it doesn't occur, but like
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that's you know, especially with someone who's hot like your
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ocone's and guys were a lot of Jordan's, Like you said,
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there's you know, those things are selling at shows, those
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things are selling online, and if you don't pull them
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down fast enough, you can double sell it potentially. Again,
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It's only happened twice, and I try not to have
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it happen at all, but you know, it's I think
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people have to be understanding too. Better that than write
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someone buys something or buys it now on on a
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marketplace and then they tell you like, oh my son
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bid on that. I'm sorry, can you cancel the trea
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or hit the hit the uh you know, buy it
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now key, Or my cat was walking across my laptop
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and purchased card by accident, which you know, nine times
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out of ten, me and you and everyone else knows'
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is probably a bogus story. They're just having like second
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thoughts or whatever the case may be, so you know better.
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I appreciate the honesty rather than someone making up some
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kind of bogus line or story. But uh, is it
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you're so you don't set up at shows? Like is
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that something just you don't want to really do? It's
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just two time consuming.
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I used to I used to step in Milwaukee all
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the time when we had in uh Old Creek at
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the Salvation Army there. I used to ste up there
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all the time every month. But then when we moved
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down to Missouri, I didn't have anyone else to really
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come with me to the show. So that's probably that's
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probably the biggest thing or there. Yeah, I got a
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bite on here. I just asked him actually this past
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weekend if he wants to come with me, to know,
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just to help man the table, and he goes, oh,
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be done for that.
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So that may change shortly here.
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Yeah. Yeah, And one thing, and you know this already
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from doing it right, I think you have more opportunities
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sometimes to buy at a show. People will come up
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to you like, hey, you're buying, you know? So I
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even know a guy he doesn't even bring anything. He
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buys a table at a show whatever, forty fifty sixty
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bucks just with a big sign I'm buying. He sits
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there and all day he's just trying to buy cards.
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And so even even in that aspect of it, I
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think people do that, it's not uncommon. So it's just
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a good opportunity to acquire more inventory. You know, I'm
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not a big trader, but I you know, I just
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I just had a show last week and did like
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a trade. It's not not in my wheelhouse, but in
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some cases, if it deals good, I'll make a trade.
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It's a good opportunity maybe to move something you've had
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for a while for something new and put out the
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showcase and like that. So I'm open to all those
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kinds of trade or even as you will probably know, right,
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cash or trade both right in the same deal. Hey,
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I'll give you these two cards and fifty dollars for
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that card or those two cards, and you know you
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always you gotta be receptive to those because that's a
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way to acquire new inventory. Yah, as well, I gotta
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ask you go ahead.
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I hate dead inventory.
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If I constantly put something up and then's just not moving,
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no one's even making an offer that's the opportunity for
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trade right there. Yeah, I had a bunch of JJ
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McCarthy's and uh I went to show. I'm like, hey,
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here's what these are going for. I'll trade for this
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stuff and give you cash on top if you want.
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He Yeah, made the trade. You know, value wise was
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higher on his side when I made the trade. Saw
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him a couple of shows later, he goes, I got
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torn apart on those jjs.
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But allowed you to move often, like at the time
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you you acquiesced to him that well, listen, may be
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so right. If again, we just talking about quarterbacks sometimes
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getting a second life in a new location, and JJ
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all the quarterbacks we talked about, the youngest one. So
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I get it doesn't look good. He hasn't played well,
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but I wouldn't bury him completely yet. There's always that potential.
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There's many Sam Donald's this past weekend and during the
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week here getting pulled out of bargain in discount boxes yep,
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right now getting repriced right, So it can happen, and
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we've seen it happen more than on one occasion, and
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so I'm not predicting that necessarily, Tim, but it's not
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beyond the realm. Of possible. You know, so right now,
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JJ McCarthy is not a hot commodity. But Sam Donald wasn't,
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you know three years ago, four years ago. Look where
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he is now, and you're gonna probably be seeing a
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lot more of him on TV and commercials and endorsements
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and all sort of things. So you know, you'd never
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say that, Verne. You know, we'll see what we'll see
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what happens. And you made a deal where you can
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move off that and into something else, and nothing wrong
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with that when you when you can do it. And
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I've done similar type of deals where I've given someone
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maybe the better end of the deal just because what
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I would be getting back is probably more stable or
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more you know, probably safer for future sales than what
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I was giving up. And sometimes you have to do
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that to make that deal happen. It's just kind of
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smart business, if you will.
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Someone's at my door, I've got to get that be
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right back.
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Sports Cognation has reasons.
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You know I asked you about doing shows is maybe
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you have been in a car store of your own?
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Is that something you think about you don't want to do?
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You do want to do?
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Oh?
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You know what's your thoughts there?
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Don't really want to on own shout. I don't want
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to be stuck in a building for all day or
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you know what, over the hours are I like being
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able to do everything from home right now. That doesn't
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say things may change in the future, but right now,
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not on my horizon. I don't want all the overhead.
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Yeah, no, it's true. You see a lot of these shops.
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I'm sure you see it too, Tim. You know a
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lot of them are doing breaks and they're doing stuff
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online to sort of pay their their shop bills as well.
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Like you said that overhead puts I think extra pressure
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on you. And I had a shop for seven years
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in the midnight, early mid nineties, and I get asked
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sometimes like good, do you miss it or do you
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ever want to own an LCS again? And my answer
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is probably not. I mean, the overhead would have to
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be a good deal. And I always you know, I'm
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only an hour from Cooperstown here at Syracuse, and I
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always said my dream would be if I ever opened
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another store, I love it. You got uh you know,
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you got a captive audience, You've got a lot of
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tourists coming in. That would be a situation Syracuse. It's
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not a bad market, but it's not you know, in
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New York City or a bigger market. But Cooperstown, you know,
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it's it's the mecca for for baseball fans having a
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store there, and and there are stores already that if
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I was a do you're gonna go in and compete against?
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But I mean you're dealing with you're getting thousands of
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people a day potentially in foot traffic, and so that's
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always that's always a plus. So my answer I always answered,
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you know, when someone asked me that, Tim, I always say, yeah,
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if it's in Cooperstown, I would definitely uh love to
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do that, but probably not like you said, locally. Plus,
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you're sort of locked in. You have to be there
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at certain times and for customers were at home. You
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kind of set your own schedule. Speaking of sort of
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setting your own schedule, what kind of hours are you
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putting in in a home, you know, devoting it to
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the business.
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So during the day after I met work work out
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done shoures down the house, I'll go take pictures of
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cards and get them ready to list on eBay, and
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then at night I'll usually list them that way because
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I think you gotta pay a fee if you if
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you put them up as like a schedule. So yeah,
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so I just go and have all pictures ready and
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there's that scan feature on eBay makes it super simple
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list and stuff.
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Now.
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I think I listed thirty or forty cards in less
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than an hour last night, so that that was nice.
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But I'll do that for quickly at night. Then usually
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Saturday Sunday, I'll run a little stack stacks hill on
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on X and then just grind that out all night,
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try to get payments. In and get that outdoor set.
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But at night I do a lot of buying. I'll
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put up like a buying post. Okay, I'm buying right now,
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show me what you got running crunch numbers, and so
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it's not too bad a few hours at night. Obviously
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those stacks no longer.
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Yeah, and working from home. Right, you can set your
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own you can set your own schedule, which is always
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always always nice. So uh for me, you know, I
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I sell on the marketplaces and then I do about
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two shows a month. And I do love doing shows,
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you know. I love that interaction talking with people, whether
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it be selling something, buying something, trading right, it's it's
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I love that sort of interaction. And I think you'll
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agree with this. To me, nothing nothing beats an in
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person transaction. You're seeing what you're potentially getting. You can,
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you know, haggle over price until you come to an
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agreement or you don't come to an agreement. I just
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think there's something to be said about that on both sides.
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Whereas whether I'm going to a show as a consumer
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and not set up, or as a dealer and set up.
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But it's advantageous. It's not always hospital where that's where
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the online uh stuff kind of comes in. Uh, I
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know you you know, last last question I have for you.
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The majority of what you purchase, she said, is in slabs.
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You know already graded. You know, we now know collectors
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not only own P s A and actually see they've
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added Beckett. A lot of people are not really finding that,
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calling it a monopoly. Your thoughts and has that changed
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your approach to how you buy an acquire cards or not?
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Doesn't really matter for me buying cards. I mainly buy
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BGS and p s A slabs for the most part.
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See do you see every every so often? Acquisition doesn't
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really matter to me as long as they're not keep
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raising raising prices on everything, which we have no control
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over that though, So I'll still send stuff in here
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and there. I don't send nearly what I use too,
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that's for sure. Yeah, you know, especially when stuff goes
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for less than twenty five bucks, Why do I want
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to take the risk there? Less less than nine is
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doing above twenty five. Yeah, it's not terrible, but but no,
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it doesn't really bother me so much.
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Yeah. Do you get much involved in vintage or you
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try to stay on the modern side.
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I stay away from vintage, not my expertise.
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I'm not gonna try to act like I know what
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I'm talking about.
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No, I get that, I'm invented. I'm both, you know,
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as a dealer setting up at shows, I like to
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have modern ad vantage. But I get it. You know,
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I've done it for forty years. Maybe that's maybe that's why.
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I don't know, but it's because I am vintage. I
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always joke with people in my age. I'm considered vintage myself.
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Well, one of the things with vintage is like say
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you have a SGC three of something, it can look
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very different and people are gonna value that different.
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So that's one reason why as well.
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Yeah, I get it. I get that. It's just I
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don't know. I think I do it because I love
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it and so by care by also carrying it. And
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also it advertises the people that hey, John, like you know,
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John does this stuff, so I can sell them and
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see if he's interesting stuff. So almost it's almost like
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an advertisement piece as well as a selling piece, like, hey,
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I got some vintage whatever, how I got it? I
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don't really want it, and I know John likes it,
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and let's see we can work a deal and I've
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I've done that. I've had people come up to me
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who whatever, how they've acquired some sort of vintage and
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they're like, I don't want it, John, but I like
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some of your minor stuff you deal and I've made
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those kind of deals and I love it. And I'll
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say this, and I know you don't like vintage, and
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but I think you'll agree with this too. I think
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vintage is obviously harder to obtain. This just less of
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it it will. So anytime I can like maybe trade
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some modern and add to my vintage, whether that be
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PC or or show inventory, I always sort of welcome
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that opportunity, right, And you know, so I carry it,
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I collect it, and I sell it. So it's you know,
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it's sort of like a storefront, right that you advertise
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like this would be stuff I'd be if you have this,
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I'd be interested in acquiring.
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So I know the the lcs. I used to go
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to a Milwaukee Prices collectibles. He hated by modern stuff.
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He wouldn't, you know, establish legends, vintage, that's what he
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was into.
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Yeah, I follow on both sides of the out because
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I'm a sports fan. I guess if I wasn't a
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sports fan, i'd be maybe all vintage, because I wouldn't
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be following modern day sports. But I feel, I don't
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want to sound kacky, but I like verse enough in watching,
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participating in fantasy leagues, just knowing modern day sports. I mean,
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the reason I'm even a card collector in the first
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place is, you know, in nineteen seventy nine, I was
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a seven year old kid who was a sports kid,
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and I found out, Hey, they make cards of these guys,
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and then the rest is history all these years later.
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But if I guess, if I wasn't a sports fan,
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i'd probably be less into modern than I am. But
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I like modern too, my heart. I always say this.
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I think by you know, I'm married to vintage, but
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my mistress is modern. You know, I use that analogy,
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but I like to have both. I know, you know,
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certain dealers will only just have one and not the other.
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And my mindset is by carrying sort of both, you
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you know, you're not ruling anyone out, Like someone who's
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coming to the show, whether they're a vintage collector or
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modern or ultra modern. Hopefully I have something that either
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either one of those types of yeah.
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And neither neither way is wrong.
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Yeah no, so you know we don't want to get
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that that's skewed with that.
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Yeah No, to each their own. I just I love
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both enough to carry both and collect both, is what
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I'm saying. But if I wasn't a sports fan as
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I am, Tim, I probably would would not carry as
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much modern as I actually do. Yeah you know what
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I mean. So well, listen. I appreciate you. You're jumping on.
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I know you're busy guy, uh, you know, being full time,
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But I always love as someone who was full time
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at a certain stage. I always love like that process
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and sort of like pick someone's brain in this case
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yours to that process and hobby, as you know, evolves
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and changes, so those conversations are always unique to the individual.
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So I appreciate you you're sharing some of those insights.
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I always give the guests Tim the last word right
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where people can get in touch with you or see
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what you have available, or get in touch with you
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if they're looking to sell as well, like whatever you
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want to do social media, you know, give about all that.
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First I will say thank you. I met you at
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National twenty twenty one.
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I think first I meet you there, so it's been
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a pleasure of knowing you in the past five years
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or so. Where to find me. You can find me
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at big worms on Twitter, X what we want to
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call it, big worms on eBay, big worms on Instagram.
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I think of big Worms on Discord two. But those
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are all the places you can find me. Majority of
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myself's on X and eBay for the most part. You
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can always reach out with me DMS. I respond to
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pretty much everything, so don't be afraid to reach out.
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I love networking. The more people you know, the better, yeh.
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Yeh, like righting of the show, right, the hobby is
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the people, So without us there would be no I
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know it's about the cards too, but ab out the people,
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there'd be no hobby. So uh, you know, reach out
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to Tim whether you're interested in buying or selling or both.
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And you know, like he says, he's very good at
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at getting back and being propped about it. So again, Tim,
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are you going to this year's National.
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Haven't decided a problem? Probably will?
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Okay, Well, if you do, I've last a week or
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two ago. I sort of made my sort of all
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my arrangements and flights and all that. So if you
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make it I'm hope to see you there as always. Absolutely,51200:28:42.119 --> 00:28:46.200
Thank you John, Thank you Tim, continued successes, Thank you.51300:28:46.680 --> 00:28:51.519
Awesome conversation with Tim this week last week. I hope51400:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.880
you caught those, uh not last week's You can go51500:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.880
back and check that out. But Tim's a really good51600:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.319
dude and he's going to do well. He's already doing well,51700:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.440
but he's smart, knows what he's doing. And you know,51800:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.799
anytime I hear someone going full time as someone who51900:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.960
used to be full time, as someone who probably could52000:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.519
still be full time have if I so choose, I'm52100:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.279
always interested to sort of see how the sausage is52200:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.440
made or sort of their approach to it right, because52300:29:22.519 --> 00:29:27.480
no very few people do it exactly the same way, right.52400:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.640
They have different techniques and the thoughts and theories and plans,52500:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.200
and so always love chopping up that kind of stuff52600:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.519
and getting to the nuts and bolts of it. So52700:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.119
I hope you enjoyed that and as much as I did.52800:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.759
We're gonna hear from our hobbies the People Announcer of52900:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.000
the Week and wrap up this week's episode.53000:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.920
Time for all Hobby is the People Announcer of the Week.53100:29:58.079 --> 00:30:02.240
Hey, everybody, I'm gary to I thumbs down. Guy. This53200:30:02.319 --> 00:30:07.160
is the Sports Coordination podcast. The Hobby is for dealers,53300:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.079
I mean people.53400:30:08.640 --> 00:30:10.839
If you'd like to be the Hobby is the people53500:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.000
announcer of the week. Do a one or MP three53600:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.279
file and send it to Sports Coordination PC at gmail53700:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.319
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