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Spawns Guard Nations, Hobbies, the People, Wheely News and Interviews.
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It's yon number one song Sports Gardations hobby is the People.
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Spawns Gardation. What is up? Everybody?
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Welcome to episode three eighty of Sportscordination Podcasts. As we
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approach four hundred episodes and when when you realize they're
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only once a week and you're approaching four hundred, we're
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in our eighth year almost, and that's uh, that's crazy.
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But Part two of our great conversation with Tim mckenry
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from BCW Supplies but known for his slab Strong or
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slab Bumpers and always great catching up with Tim, and
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you know, straight Shooter really loves the hobby, loves doing
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what he's doing, and I love that and that's important
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to to try to love as much, love what you
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do as much as you can.
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So I want to thank.
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Our sponsors, Iron Sports Cards, Sports Collectors, Digests, Habby, Hot
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Life and Upper Deck and SGC as well. So would
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that being said, let's get this episode underway.
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Yes, So BCW comes along. They licensed slab Bumpers from
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me and then so after that deal was done, I
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actually approached the owner, Eric and he's awesome, dude. Everyone
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at BCW is awesome. But I approached Eric and said, hey, look, uh,
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you know, the licensing money is great, but I need
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a job, right, And so they had then made me
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head of sports cards and memorabilia and I work remotely
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the companies in Middletown, Indiana, but I work remotely in Nashville,
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and it has just been amazing. So yeah, from losing
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my job Mars fifteenth to thinking like, Okay, when this
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pandemic s over, I'm just going to go back work
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back to the restaurant, to now like making pretty good money, right, sustainable,
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having a kid, get to rock the big hat, I
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get to just talk cards all the time, like I
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would have never thought that it was going to happen
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this way, and it's just been awesome. I really can't complain.
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It was a leton. You've heard this saying, right, it
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was a blessing in disguise. You didn't know it in
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the moment. Obviously, there's no way you could know it
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in the moment. I'm sure anyone that's lost their employment
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or their job, it's scary. I don't care if you're young,
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you're old, it doesn't matter, you know, I'm in the
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teaching profession now, I'm in my fifth year. I've always
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had an inkling to do it, and I just didn't
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do it. I kind of dragged my feet tim And
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then I was in the transportation industry and my company
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I work for him, Like I mentioned them by name,
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they had some bad quarterly you know, profit reports, and
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they start downsizing a little bit. And so I came
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into work and my boss said, hey, we're you know,
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we're eliminating your position. And didn't really know, you know,
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that that was gonna happen. Like sometimes when you lose
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your jobs, the writing sort of on the wall and
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you can sort of brace for impact. I didn't really
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have that, but what it did for me is and
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it was the first I'm not trying to be I
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don't mean this in a conceited or congress sort of. Wait,
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it's the first time I'd ever lost the job. I've
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left jobs and put in my two weeks, but it's
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the first time I've ever been been told you won't
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have it, you know, finish up the day and then
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clean out your office. I've never been been told that.
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So it didn't bother me as much as it was
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long day six am to six pm, and it was
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really making me unhealthy and unhappy. So that party didn't miss.
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But it's still a shock when someone tells you, like,
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don't come here anymore. Maybe not in those terms, but
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basically that's what they're telling you. But what it got
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me to do was like, hey, now I need to
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do what I've been thinking about. And I did it.
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And you know, again, I like you. I didn't know
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at the time, but it was a blessing sky because
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had that not happened, I don't think I'd still be there,
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but I would have been there longer in the teaching profession,
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a less amount of time. I just wish I should
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have did it sooner, but it take it took losing
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my job to you know, put my feet to the
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fire to do it and get it done. Yeah, and
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here we are five years later, so I get it.
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It can be scary, but you know, when when the
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ending's happy, and I think in both of our cases,
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it's very cool. And like you said, you would have
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if you would have scripted this, you wouldn't have scripted.
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You would have never came up with a script like this,
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So very cool. But listen, you grind, you put in
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the work, you know. And the one thing I want
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to ask you what to going to the Dallas show
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Like you said you had thirteen pretty much the show
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off were you? Did you take pre orders there or
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it was just the network and get them out there? Yeah?
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So, uh, you know, I work at BCW now and
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so like they're made into in a different spot. But
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when I originally I had met someone that had a
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website called hoppun and I contacted him. He's from Utah.
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I ended up saying, hey, can you help me build
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my website. He became a partner his buddy and his
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buddy and father owned a what do you call it? Well,
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they manufactured molds. So my first products.
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A production a production facility.
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Yeah, production facility. But they couldn't do packaging. They couldn't.
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They could only make the actual product.
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That was that was in Logan, Utah, about an hour
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north of Salt Lake City. And so yeah, I had
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to learn about injection molding, like this is all new.
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All this other stuff was new to me. But yeah,
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so it starts off made in America Logan, Utah. And
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then obviously you get to a bigger corporation and things
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are made overseas. That's certain products. There's a ton of
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products made in the US from BCW. But yeah, just
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the way things worked out the way just random, you know.
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I saw a guy's website and he was promoting, and
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I said, hey, like I need a website. And at
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that time, I didn't know that I could just hire whoever.
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But his name was Dave Wilgans. He's a cool dude.
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I haven't talked to him much lately, but yeah, I
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couldn't have started it without him either, right, So yeah,
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it's been a crazy journey. I got to go to
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I got to go to Salt Lake City in there
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like three or four times, and I was an amazing
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place as well. But yeah, it's just crazy how things
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work out. And then I had to go to like
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I actually went to my John and Men, great couple
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out in Sould, California. Once I had to expand. This
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is before BCW comes along. I was able to go
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to them. They were able to get it made for me,
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plus packaging, plus a fulfillment facility. And at that point
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that's when I went like balls to the wall because
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now the product there was bulk of it and I
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could just go anywhere and talk about it. But yeah,
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when I was down the original Dallas coltuow, like you've
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asked you, I had thirteen pieces. I gave eight of
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them away. I kept five for myself that was actually
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still on slabs, and like I said, yeah, I just
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met a bunch of people and just started talking about it.
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At the time, you know, there's competitors to the product now,
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but at the time there was no competitors, so people
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were like, oh, this is this is an amazing great idea,
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like how do blah blah blah. So yeah, that experienced
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that first Dallas car show too. Like I mentioned, that's
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the first one that came back before the pandemic, right
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before the national so it was like I was able
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to get in front of everyone. And then by the
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time the Naturville came along that year, I was able
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to have three different colors, Black, Claire, and Red, so
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I got to show those off and I would just
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walk around, honestly, just holding him like this. I would
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just walk around. When I was bored, I would tap
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in my chest because the whole idea and at that
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time I wasn't wearing a big hat or anything. But
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I just wanted people to ask what is that? Like,
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what is that on your slabs? And then I got
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to tell people, yeah, just it was an overall amazing experience.
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And also I've always been a confident person, don't get
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me wrong, but to go in front of that many
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people and just show off something that you don't know,
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like I knew it was a good idea. I had
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a bunch of people tell me it was a good idea.
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But then they stopped selling. John like they stopped selling
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and I'm like, oh, I get a couple of big orders.
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So how did I meet Steve Sloan at the time.
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Steve Sloan is still present of PSA. I forget how
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I got to him. I mine just reached out to him.
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I forget how, but PSA bought fifteen hundred slab strongs
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from me. At that time. They were what they were doing,
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they were kind of testing the product, and they were
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giving the people back that went to the national just
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to get it reslapped. They would give those out. So
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like to go from like I said, managing the restaurant,
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creating a product, and keep in mind that we know
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there's other greating companies, but the idea came for PSA slabs, right,
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that was the first brand to have PSA actually buy
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them from you, bro. Like that's when like my confident
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level was like, Okay, I'm unstoppable. Now all I have
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to do is keep my head on straight, sell myself,
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sell the product, and you see where it is now?
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Yeah, yeah, And again you got to get the credit
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for that, right you came up with the idea. You
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put your own money up, especially at a time period
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in your life where it was harder to do that.
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same thing.
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You took a risk, right, there's no guarantee even you,
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like you said you're confident, but you don't, you know,
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no one hundred percent certain. You took a chance, right,
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So and like you said, here we are what a
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crazy like you couldn't write if you wrote, if you
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wrote this as a script, Disney might not even like
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Disney might reject it, right, So, so you know, but
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I think it goes. It's a testament to you know,
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working hard, grinding, uh, you know, seeing something through, right
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and keep going And and I'm sure we don't have to,
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but you know you probably had some roadblocks here and there.
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Like you said, you had no idea about production. You
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had to learn a lot of things that you you know,
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you like you said, I'm a restaurant guy, but I
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had to learn. I had to get out of my
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comfort zone and learn some things that I wasn't familiar with.
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But being an intelligent, smart guy, right, it was probably
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maybe easier for you than than someone else. But still
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still not eating not you know, not a layup. You
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still got to put in the work and do the
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research and studying and learning what it in entails and
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you know, and that stuff too. But you know, everyone thinks, well,
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you know, everyone always puts too much emphasis on money too,
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right this time that goes into this and time is money,
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so it's not always just dollar signs. But in your
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case it was both right. You had to put the
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time in and the financial backing as well, and things
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just sort of the chips fell in the right place,
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as they say. And here you are at BCW listen.
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It's not a shameless plug like you already know this
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and a lot of other people do listen to the show.
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But like their products, I stand like I use them,
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you know, if I use there's no bigger endorsement. When
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I'm at a show as a dealer myself and all
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my stuff is in those type of products, right, I
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have that sign on my table. Right, they use that
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code for the ten percent off, So I'm not gonna
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do that if I don't like the product. Right. And
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the thing I love about BCW besides in general, right
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is they make stuff. And you I'm preaching it the
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choir here, Tim, but they make stuff, you know when
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we think it supplies and we think of some of
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the companies, and I'm not gonna mention them all, but
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who people know them? Right? Soft sleeves are you know,
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pretty similar top folders, Right. But bcw's makes stuff that
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like you can't get anywhere else, like you have to
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you have to go get them from them. Like I'm
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they're not on camera. But I have two card catalogs
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that I have a lot of my inventory in. And
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you know, I didn't like them when I was in
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school in the library looking looking through them. But for
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for cards now, like it's perfectly designed, like it's it's
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ideal and just go ahead, I see you.
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Well, I was gonna say, so. I believe they're on
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the website order for pre sale. So if you've been
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to the website, people know, but we have gradeds coming
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out next.
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Oh boy.
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Then and then I say that, no, that's gonna be
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a great like like and you're not like no one
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else has those. No, it's not like you can go
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to you know, supplyer, A, B and C and just
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who do you want to buy them?
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Right, there's products, and that I think was what separates.
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Like one of the separates, right is you can go
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to BCW get stuff that even if you wanted to
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get it somewhere else can't. No one's doing that.
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The other big product that I've seen you post is
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the car beins, like the ones I mentioned college. Yeah, yeah,
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there's some products that no other company makes at all.
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And then we're working really hard. We actually actually should
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I reveal this, We're actually I'm not gonna reveal it
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just in case, but we have some really really really
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really cool stuff coming out that there aren't any other
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other companies that make them. Twenty twenty six is going
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to be a great year. Twenty twenty seven will now
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I'm just gonna say, be even bigger, but just as
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good of a year. We've got some cool stuff for
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collectors and also like I get stuff for free. I
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just call it like and say, hey, can you send
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me the new card bin? I have to test it out.
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Yeah, here's the thing, you know, as it's someone who
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you know. I do a lot of shows, probably two
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a month, if not, if not more, every one in
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a while. Like those cardboard boxes, after a while, man,
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they get beat up. They start praying, break in, the tabs,
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come out, the tabs rip right, those those card bins,
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those card caredlogs. Listen, I'm not I'm I'm throwing them
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in my car at the end of the show. I
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want to go home. Even if the show is great.
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I'm just tired. Let's get out of here. Like I'm
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not like, I'm not handling with like like it's the
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Stanley Club with with white gloves. I'm like, you know,
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let's go. Those things. Like if you see them today,
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they look almost just as new as when when I
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first started utilizing them. They take, they're meant to take
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some abuse. I mean, I wouldn't throw them around, which
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I don't do that, but I'm not you know, I'm
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not being ginger with them and the cardboard boxes. I
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was just going through them so much, Tim, It's like, no,
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I'm I'm just I don't even know if I have
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a cardboard box, uh to my name, I think I've
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I have one Monster box that's cardboard now just with
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like sport lots singles in it. That's probably it. Everything
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else is the BCW plastics line and like, I don't
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I'm not turning back, like I'm uh. When you use
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them and you love them, like, there's there's no going back,
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like and it's funny, that's a true story. I've converted
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some of the dealers that's set up near me or
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with me, they're using they're like where'd you get those? Right?
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You know how this goes? But those are cool like
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and I tell them, hey, man, go to BCW use
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this code too, you know.
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Uh.
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And so you're seeing them, you're seeing them more, and
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you're seeing them more at shows like and especially here
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from I don't want to take credit for, but I
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was one of the first area to sort of like
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completely convert. And even even customers who who come to
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the table like what where'd you get those? And obviously
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I always tell them And then I have those those
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little laminated sheets on my table with with the with
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the barcode and then like skinning, you get saved save
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ten percent. So so they're they're huge and big difference.
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And just compared to cardboard, there is no there is
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no comparison, and now here in the grading like you know,
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sign me up yesterday, So you know, Uh, it's just
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a big difference between a cardboard box. And and and
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then when we say plastic, I didn't even think like
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this is heavy duty stuff, like I said, I'm not
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I'm not gingerly handling. I'm putting them on the table,
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moving them around, throw them in the back of my car,
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you know, or my SUV and so and if you
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look at me that it's hardly a scratch ont of
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his bats. And anyone that's used them since they saw mine,
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they say, Man, I wish, I wish I would have
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known about this sooner, but I'm glad I know about it.
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So and to hear some new stuff coming down the turnpike, Uh,
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that's that's cool.
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Yeah, I'll give you a little preview in a few
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weeks when we get some samples.
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And yeah, yeah, you are listening to the sportscard Nation podcast.
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We on batch.
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So listen. I know you had to you kind of
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cut back a little bit, you know, talking to me
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before we went live. You know, with with the birth
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of your daughter, you got to cut back on your travel.
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But you're You're said you're starting to ramp that back up.
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How much What does that look like for for for
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tim like how much how many weekends are you home
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or not home?
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You know?
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Uh? For at this point, I know it can vary,
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but on average.
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Well, I just so since the birth of my daughter,
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I believe I travel a little bit when my wife
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was pregnant, but not too much so for about a
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year and a half. Now, I used to do like
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two shows a month. And you know, after the pandemic,
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everyone started putting on shows. So I was going like
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two shows a month. Although I'd go to Huntsville, I'd
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go to Alabama to the Flip Show, you know, Burbank
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Show at that time, Dallas card Show, there was always
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the Cardboll Show, Ship Sawana, Philly. Chicago's was a spectacular,
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the Chicago Spec Spectacular shows out in Ohio. So I
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was all, I'm in Nashville now, so the National no,
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uh Joe that puts that on. But yeah, the National,
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the Nashville National is awesome. I'm still easing my way
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back into it. I just went out to a great
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shop in Bellingham, Washington hour north of Seattle called Rhino
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Sports Cards for their top so hobby rip night. That
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was like my first event that I did. Uh you know,
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like I said, about a year and a half.
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Uh.
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You know, I'm talking to my wife. We're trying to
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still trying to figure things out right, we're new parents.
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But like, so I should be going to Pittsburgh in April.
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I'm looking at to go to the Dallas Card Show
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and May. I was actually looking at me and my
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wife are planning on which shows. What should we go
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to this year? So I'll definitely be back on the road.
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I think I'm gonna ease into it. I'll probably do
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six to eight shows this year, like, not including the National.
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I'll be at the National all week. Uh uh, you know,
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I'll be in Chicago for seven days Monday and the Sunday,
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setting up, tearing stuff down. It's a little bit tough.
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I can't wait till, you know, like my daughter gets
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a little bit older so she can be like we
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can travel to shows together, and I don't know if
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I'll have her too much at the shows, but like,
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you know, like all the real business gets done, not
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buying cars happened to this, Well, the real business gets
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done after our dinners and having.
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A few drinks.
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People looking forward to that. Yeah, I would say, you know,
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like six to eight shows this year and then twenty
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twenty seven, hopefully I'll be able to get like back
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into the real grind of it. And when I say
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real grind of it, I mean I love this stuff.
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So yeah, you ever lose track, like, hey, what day
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is it?
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Like I don't even know days hours. I always forget
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too because I've lived on the East Coast basically all
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my life. So I'm in Nashville now, so on Central Time.
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That's why I like, I didn't even tell you that.
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I was just like, hey, what time. I know you
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would say Eastern, so I'm like, I was there at seven? Yeah, then,
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uh I was. I was just out in Seattle, right,
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that's two hours ahead of time. Like, yeah, I'm always forgetting.
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It's you know, it's more so like the timing when
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you're traveling so much is remembering, Like, Okay, I set
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an alum on my phone for these meetings I'm still having,
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but you're not. You're not thinking that way until your
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alarm goes off and it's like I got five minutes
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to get on this very important meeting. But uh yeah,
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I wouldn't change it for anything. It's not that I
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don't like flying. I love driving. And so like last
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year WED we drove from Nashville to Atlanta and then
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we did like a whole loop de Loop in Florida.
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I'll be driving to Pittsburgh this year. There's a great
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card show I think it's called Next up at the
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same weekend as the Draft in Pittsburgh. That should be cool.
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Like I said, I'll be going to Dallas Carshaw.
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So if there's an outside chance, there's an outside chance.
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I'm not one hundred percent. It's probably fifty to fifty
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that I will be in Pittsburgh for the draft. And
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if that's the case, we'll have to figure something out,
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grab some food or something. If I don't want to
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promise and then it doesn't happen. But I'm considering it.
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So I'm just waiting on a few other things decide
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whether I'm doing so. But just before, numerous times, I
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call it second Yeah, I love it too. I call
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my second hometown tim I usually go. I usually go
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to two Steeler games a year, one or you and
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then you know. And then even when I go to
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the Steeler game, I'll stay two to three days. I'm
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not just I'm not just coming in for the game
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and then leaving the same day. I'll come in a
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day or two before. My my wife's a big Steeler fan,
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my son's a big Steeler fan. So sometimes it's just
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me and my wife. Sometimes it's me and my son.
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So everyone when my son was younger, was all three
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of us. So we make like a two to three
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day kind of mini vacation around the Steeler game itself.
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So and now with them having the draft in different
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cities and now that Pittsburgh has it, I'm like, I
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wish they had a higher pick, but there's rumors that
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they're maybe trying to trade up. I don't know, but
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I want to go. I kind of lean into go
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for the event. So there's a list to get on
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for like tickets and if that, if the NFL comes
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back and it's free, it's just you gotta get selected.
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If I get an email saying congratulations you have this,
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it'll probably just be me. But I'll probably go for
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a couple of just keep that. If everything falls, if
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the stars a line, I might I might beat the
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same time. So so I you know, and kind of
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coming down the turnpike here, uh, Tim kind of wrapping
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it up.
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You know.
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I do a thing. I call it the hobby magic
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wand it's not obviously too bad. It's not real, but
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it's real for the show. I give it sometimes I
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don't give it to every guest, but I'm gonna give
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it to you. You can kind of make one wish, uh,
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something you want to not see anymore, something you want
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to see more of. You know, you get you only
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get one hobby wish, so to speak, what would you
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what would you do with it? The hobby magic wand.
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I would wave my magic wand and tops an upper
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Deck would just make a wink wink handshake. Agreement to
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allow upper Deck to make basketball baseball makes Yeah, the
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Mandy football cups, but basketball and baseball cards again. I
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just upper Deck.
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I love it.
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Yeah. I visited their facility before. Jason's awesome, the president, like,
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he's such a good guy. I got my friend Billy works.
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They're like, I just wish money's money, right, like these
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big corporations, they don't care. But if I could wear
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a magnet one even opening in there too. But not
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for this, not for this wish. Upper Deck gets to
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make basketball cards at minimum and baseball too. But upper
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Deck gets to make basketball cards again, so we can
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get some license Jordan's stuff in with the other guys
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and we can, you know. So that's what I would
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00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:36.240
wish upper Deck, and.
478
00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:36.759
I like it.
479
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I like it. I like it. That's a good one
480
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:43.440
and I second that right, you know, in the heyday,
481
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:47.039
and they have some even with their hockey stuff, which
482
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.599
I'm I'm privileged to get. The review they've sent me
483
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.519
some stuff to review and they have some great designs.
484
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.359
And it's funny here when you say that, Tim, because
485
00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:01.720
I say to myself, man, I wish they still do football, baseball, basketball,
486
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.920
like with some of the designs and their innovations, like
487
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.400
it's it's almost sad they're not. They're not doing bad,
488
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:11.519
don't get me wrong, but like knowing what they could
489
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.799
do if they had that capability, like you just said,
490
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:18.400
I would, I would love to, So you won't. You
491
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:20.480
won't get it one of the you know I've do
492
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.880
I don't do this all the time with Amy Magic White.
493
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.119
I gotta say that ranks up there as one of
494
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.359
the best responses without without making anyone else feel bad
495
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:33.240
for that one. Very good and I agree. And you
496
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.200
know what, maybe someday, I don't know if I'll be around.
497
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.559
I'm older than you, so I might not be around
498
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:42.039
you to enjoy it. But maybe someday that happens again.
499
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:44.359
Or maybe you know I've talked about this on on
500
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.400
the podcast, Uh, Tim is maybe it gets the point
501
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:51.000
where tops even like sub even if they have the licensing,
502
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:54.920
they can sublyse it or say, hey, give us so
503
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.960
much and you can do three products or whatever. You know,
504
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:02.519
I'm not predicting. I'm not predicting it, but it's not
505
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:06.440
beyond not probably not in the next three to five years.
506
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.079
But I'm I'm not saying it's out of the realm
507
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:13.359
of possibility. Down Load tops Tops paid a lot of
508
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:17.359
money for that, and so maybe if it'll get to
509
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.960
a point where they might almost there might be a
510
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:25.079
necessity almost I say tops, but we know it's fanatics,
511
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:28.160
but but you know what I mean, So who knows?51200:26:28.319 --> 00:26:31.880
Who knows? And if the day comes, I will be51300:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.680
right there at the front of the line cheering that on.51400:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.240
Like if they told me there's going to be call it,51500:26:38.559 --> 00:26:42.079
what are they said, in twenty thirty there's going to51600:26:42.160 --> 00:26:46.400
be an upper deck top slash Fanatics basketball product. I51700:26:46.440 --> 00:26:48.559
would spend the money pre sale tomorrow.51800:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.640
Yep, yeah, I agree with you, and that would be51900:26:52.279 --> 00:26:54.559
It would just be so, you know, it doesn't always52000:26:54.599 --> 00:26:58.119
have to be. I know, businesses sometimes cutthroat. You know52100:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.039
that even with what you do, then people come along52200:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.279
and try to steal ideas. But these if they really52300:27:04.319 --> 00:27:08.359
wanted to, these companies could get together to some extent52400:27:08.880 --> 00:27:13.400
and do a collaboration. They really wanted to. It's not52500:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.519
out of the realm of possibly right, so you know,52600:27:16.839 --> 00:27:20.119
who knows, not gonna happen, probably in the next few years,52700:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.480
but you never know, and we can cross their fingers52800:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.880
and hope that there's something we see. You you're younger52900:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.279
than me, so you got a better chance at seeing53000:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.839
it than I do. But uh hopefully we both get53100:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.640
to uh see that and enjoy it. Uh you know53200:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.400
from remember it from from the error when it was53300:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.319
in real time it happened. So tim as always, I53400:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.319
give the guests kind of the last word. Give out53500:27:44.640 --> 00:27:48.519
any social media website where you want people to go53600:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.440
see what you're doing. BCW there's no time, you know,53700:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.200
take your time, give out all that effort.53800:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.039
Yeah, I think I can still be quick. Yeah, so53900:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.480
you know, I love talking cards. Anyone out there, uh54000:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.000
want to talk about cards or ask even if you're54100:28:04.039 --> 00:28:05.559
just trying to sell cards a message me, I don't54200:28:05.559 --> 00:28:08.079
care if it's if it's a butt, I'll take a look,54300:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.640
especially if you got Rhde Island stuff. But yes, slab54400:28:10.759 --> 00:28:16.519
strong is Instagram. Slabstrong is also what TikTok. But in54500:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.000
terms of you know, if you want to buy slab54600:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.200
bumpers or any other product that BCW mads from pennies, leeves,54700:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.000
top orders, card bins, card catalogs. You can use Jon's54800:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.559
discount as well, but go to BCW Supplies dot com.54900:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.359
I'm trying to think. Oh, like I work, I'm also55000:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.200
on Nashville because I work closely with Sportscard Nonsense. So55100:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.920
you know, check us out on Fanatics Live and on eBay.55200:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.559
I'll be on eBay Live on Sunday, I think at55300:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.559
like six thirty. Come by. We like to have a55400:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.720
lot of fun, talk some crap on in the in55500:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.680
the messages, and we don't care. Like we like to55600:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.799
have a lot of fun talking cards. But that's it.55700:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.920
Oh and obviously you know, if you see me at55800:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.200
a show, come say hi. Look for the big hat55900:28:59.640 --> 00:29:00.000
you know.56000:29:00.160 --> 00:29:00.519
Just comes in.56100:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.839
How Like I said, I like talking car. It still56200:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.920
amazes me that people even want to come talk to56300:29:04.960 --> 00:29:09.119
me at shows. Uh So, even though I'm like one56400:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.400
of these humble brag people where it's like I'm just56500:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.720
pretending to be humble, but absolutely come talk to me. Well,56600:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.160
have some lasts. We have a lot of fun.56700:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.200
So yeah, and I'm not just saying this, I've said this.56800:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.319
I think when you're not on the screen with me,56900:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.119
you're one of the most genuine, passionate, you know people57000:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.880
in the hobby. There's no phoniness. Like you said, you57100:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.400
love talking. You know. Sometimes people will talk to people57200:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.160
and they're just sort of going through the motions, if57300:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.559
you will. That's not that's not me, that's not you, right,57400:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.519
we enjoy it. Sometimes My problem is Tim, even like57500:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.799
at like the National or another show, like I get57600:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.359
to talk, you know me, I get to talking and57700:29:46.400 --> 00:29:48.960
it's an hour later, like, oh my god, I'm gotta57800:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.839
be here. It's such you know, I'm never late, but57900:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.400
I definitely've had some close calls because you know, I like,58000:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.279
like you, I like to talk to people, and I58100:29:57.319 --> 00:30:01.240
love the hobby. I love those conversations and that sort58200:30:01.240 --> 00:30:04.079
of thing. So it's just I think people appreciate that,58300:30:04.640 --> 00:30:08.480
especially you know you probably a little bit with me.58400:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.400
But uh, you know, you know, like I always say,58500:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.000
you're not you know, I always have no trouble finding58600:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.680
you other people like, hey man, didn't you see me?58700:30:16.799 --> 00:30:16.839
No?58800:30:17.079 --> 00:30:20.200
I was, you know, forty thousand people. You know, Tim,58900:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.279
I just look for the hat and there there you are.59000:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.319
So look for the hat.59100:30:24.039 --> 00:30:27.799
Great idea, someone said, Newman, why don't you wear hat59200:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.960
like Tim? Tim's corner the market. I can't steal like59300:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.559
he's done it already. There is a guy we'll say this.59400:30:33.920 --> 00:30:36.400
There is a guy at my local Syracuse show. Here.59500:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.319
He's behind his table and he's he's rocking the big59600:30:39.359 --> 00:30:44.200
hat with his card is the blue it's I think59700:30:44.240 --> 00:30:44.839
it's red.59800:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.799
I was gonna say, my guy, uh sports Wax Promotions,59900:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.119
who does a show out in Virginia. He rocks one.60000:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.759
And then the first time there was a card guy60100:30:54.799 --> 00:30:56.559
and I don't know his brand. I wish I knew60200:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.480
his brand so I could shout him out. But he60300:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.240
wears a blue nog Boss hat. Shout out these guys,60400:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.519
by the way to Steven Gabe, the guy that owns these.60500:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.400
Yeah awesome. They offer me free hats all the time.60600:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.119
I should message them and try to get some another60700:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.960
free one. But yeah, so Nogginboss dot com, if you60800:31:11.960 --> 00:31:13.559
guys want to go get a big hat out there.60900:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.039
I get asked every once while people come up to61000:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.720
my when you're gonna rock a big hat. I'm like this, Like,61100:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.920
you know, I feel like I'd be stealing. I'd be61200:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.519
stealing someone's like idea. I know it isn't. I know61300:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.400
it isn't that. But you know, listen, my head, My61400:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.839
head's I'm a seven and five eighths, so that hat61500:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.119
looks big on you. It might not look as big61600:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.559
on my big nogging as it does on yours. I61700:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.000
have a big head to begin with, so.61800:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.039
It's sweaty into here. I can tell you that.61900:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.599
Don't smell it. Don't smelly. You got it for breezing62000:31:48.680 --> 00:31:53.680
every once. So Tim, congratulations on your daughter. I know62100:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.480
she's five months. It's just awesome, is it? One dad62200:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.240
to another? Continued success?62300:31:59.319 --> 00:31:59.480
Man?62400:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.880
Would everything you're doing you earned. It wasn't given to you.62500:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.640
You put your nose to the grindstone and got it done.62600:32:06.759 --> 00:32:08.559
And it's awesome to see.62700:32:08.599 --> 00:32:08.799
You know.62800:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.359
Sometimes I like to say, and you root for good people,62900:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.920
so a lot of times good people win, right, So63000:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.720
I think that's the I think that's the case here.63100:32:17.839 --> 00:32:19.279
So I appreciate that.63200:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.279
You that's gonna do it. For our conversation with Tim63300:32:23.359 --> 00:32:29.640
McNary from BCW slab bumper slap strong. Like I said, guy,63400:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.519
you look up grinder in the dictionary and you know63500:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.599
his picture is probably somewhere there and you're not gonna63600:32:36.599 --> 00:32:41.839
outwork the guy. Uh. He's he's earned everything, he's got63700:32:42.119 --> 00:32:47.599
well deserved. Great guy, new dad, congratulations to him and63800:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.920
still still grinding even as a being a new dad.63900:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.359
So look forward to seeing him here in a few months,64000:32:55.079 --> 00:33:00.359
uh in Chicago in person. As always, always a last64100:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.240
So thanks to Tim. If you missed part one, it's64200:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.079
not too late, go back, You're only a week behind.64300:33:07.200 --> 00:33:11.240
Go back and listen to part one. So with that64400:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.960
being said, we're gonna hear from our Hobby is the64500:33:14.000 --> 00:33:18.000
People an Announcer of the Week, some other closing things64600:33:18.440 --> 00:33:20.599
and wrap up this week's episode.64700:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.599
Time for our Hobby is the People Announcer of the Week.64800:33:28.759 --> 00:33:33.279
This is card killer. Remember the Hobby is the People64900:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.160
If you'd like to be the Hobby is the People65000:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.319
Announcer of the Week to one or m P three65100:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.599
file and send it to Sportscard Nation PC at gmail65200:33:43.759 --> 00:33:45.640
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