June 26, 2026

Dan Bliss of Front Row Card Show Returns! E394

Dan Bliss of Front Row Card Show Returns! E394
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Dan Bliss returns for part 2 of our conversation. He promotes some of the best card shows this country can offer.


Talking Points may include:

*Evolution of the Modern Card show

*Too many shows?

*Theft and Safety at shows

*Working with other promoters

*Where his shows are and expansion?

*Staff and the efforts to put on a great event.


*Making vendors and customers happy

*Content Creation at shows



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Sports guard Nation Hobby's the People, Wheely News and Interviews.

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It's your number one song. Sportsndation Hobby is the People

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sports Gardation.

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What is up? Everybody? Welcome to episode three ninety four.

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I am back from a weekend trip to Philly, where

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my nephew is a Philadelphia firefighter. Spent three days there Friday,

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Saturday and Sunday. Went to a FIFA fan fast went

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to the Mets Phillies game on Saturday night. Not a

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good result for a Mets fan, but the home crowd

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enjoyed it for sure. Carl Schwarz, Kyle Schwarber three home runs.

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Bryce Harper hit for his first cycle in this whole career.

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So I guess that's cool to be witness to that,

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if you will. But a little tired, but here we are,

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and so glad to be back, and glad that our

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guest this week is back for part two of our

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great conversation with him? Who am I speaking of? Dan

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Bless a front row card show and I've got to

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get to one of his shows. They are highly spoken

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of and now starting to spread across the country even

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more so. Should be one closer to me to check out?

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Which you know hopefully in the future, like I just said,

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I will. What I hope you check out is a

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front row card show. And Dan bless on today's episode.

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This is again part two of our conversation. If you

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miss part two, just go back one week check that out.

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We do them in two parts to keep them more consumable.

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So it's a quick thirty to forty men in it. Listen,

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and we appreciate you, and we try to do stuff

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like that too too, you know, for the benefit of you.

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Want to thank our great sponsors, Iron Sports Cards, Sports Collectors,

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Digest Hobby, Hotline, Upper Deck Card Ladder, and CTC, a

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Citified Trading Card Association. So with all that being said,

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let's not delay get the show underway. There's a great

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point about, right, someone letting someone else by the table

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and you have no like it's just a wild Will West,

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I don't.

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Know who that is. And then and then and then John,

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we don't have empty tables at our shows. Like if

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a vendor know shows, we will fill that table. And

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as a result, you know, we've all been to shows

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where some some high school kids squat on a table

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like no vendors showed up, and then some kid shows

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up with his his case of cards and starts spreading

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them out on the table. Now he's the vendor. We

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don't allow that. We don't do any of that.

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Yeah, he shouldn't. Like I I agree. Like I've had

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a debate with actually a fellow which was kind of

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crazy to me, a fellow dealer, a fellow vendor. He's like, Ah,

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that doesn't bother me, And I'm like, you know, what

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did you pay for your table?

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Yeah?

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But like, hey, you know, it was just happened. It's

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his lucky day, was the way he saw the word.

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And I'm like, no, because then what you know, why

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you know what we're paying and someone else is not.

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Like I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to set

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up like you get a tax number and reserve a table,

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but just showing up and putting your stuff out.

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Like you know, you know, I don't. I mean, I

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could see the vendors being upset the fairness of that

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of somebody squatting on a table for free. But for us,

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we just view it more on the security side of things.

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Yea, it's usually it's innocuous.

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Let's be honest. Some some high school kids or some

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young vendor sits down at the table and spontaneously and

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start selling cards. It's usually innocuous, right, but it's about

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being careful in case someone has ulterior motives, you know,

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That's what we're trying to prevent.

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Yeah, and if something bad happens, right that whoever got wrong,

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they're gonna come to you and say, hey, that person

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at the table.

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Right, and we're like, I don't know who that is that.

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Yeah, if you did that, that.

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Table's under John Newman, that's John's table, and you.

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Know it wasn't me, It wasn't me, And then you

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don't know who it is.

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At that point, I don't know who it is, so

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we just don't allow it.

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Yeah, I get it. This has been a hot this

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is a recent hot button topic. I guess what happened

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was there was a you know, someone on the sex

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offender registry, y'all make this story shorter than it probably is.

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Was set up at a show and you know, the

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the topic of you know, safety for kids that shows

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that came up. And then so now the debate is

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like and all vendors should have a background check, uh done?

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And you know, I have a little working knowledge. I'm

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not a background check expert, but I do have a

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little bit of working knowledge. You know, it's not hard

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to do, but it's also not easy to do. It's

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somewhere in between. It's also an added expense. Now there

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are services where you can pay pay one fee. But again,

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what what what you already do so much of? Like

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what kind of where do you how do you answer

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that when someone maybe brings that time?

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That's a good question. We we're very careful with our vendors. Again,

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as I said, we we we check IDs for everybody.

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In addition to that, we have police on site at

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every event, so we don't we've never had an incident,

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yeah where you know, someone's gone missing, or someone's been

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molested or you know, we've had never had any inappropriate

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activities at our events because of we have police and

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security on site. Now that said, we now because we

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were made aware of that situation, we now make all

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vendors agree that they don't have a record on one

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of those registries. And it got brought to our attention

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about one of the vendors that could not acknowledge that,

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and so we've had to deal with that situation. And

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you know, and that's I mean something we take very seriously.

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And you know, we've got a significant female team that

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runs our shows. My wife runs our shows. Most of

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our staff is female.

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You know.

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Obviously we have security and whatnot at all the shows,

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but most of our security is female. So they're very

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particular about making sure that nobody is a you know,

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an offender at our shows. And we're very conscious of it,

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probably more than most people because because we have such

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a predominantly female team.

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Yeah, and I think too, right, you get to know

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you do, you know your your your vendors that do

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a lot of your shows, like you said, and travel

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with you too, you know, I think you get to

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know them on a personal level. Like the local show

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I do here in Syracuse, it's now about one hundred

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and ten and twenty tables. We have one show called

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the Mega Show. It's towards the front end of December.

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That might be two hundred and fifty tables. You know,

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that's big for Central New York. But I've done, I've done.

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His name is Lynn. I've done Lynn shows for twenty years,

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so he knows me very well. He knows a lot

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of the vendors who've done the shows for many moons

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and the year. So, like anything, you get to know

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on not even just a hobby level, but you get

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to know them on a personal level, including family and

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all that.

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So we have a little luxury, John of because we

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do so many shows, and we our shows are really strong,

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and it's hard to get into a lot of our shows,

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like it genuinely is because we have we have long

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wait lists to get in and our shows sell out

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so fast. We have the luxury of curating our vendors,

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so we really do try to carefully choose what vendors

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are at our shows. And and like you said, we

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have a lot of regulars, so we have people to

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travel and do a lot of our shows, and we

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know them really well, like we'll go out to dinner

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with them, you know, because we know each other genuinely.

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We see each other, you know, monthly or twice a

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month if they're traveling with us, you know. So I think,

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you know, it becomes a community, you know, And I

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think that's an important part of the two, is the

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relationships that are gained within the hobby.

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Yeah, no doubt. One of the things I wanted to

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ask you about, right, much like a lot of things

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in life, right, things can be can get competitive in nature,

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and obviously with a lot of new shows and new

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promoters sort of entering the fray, you know, just the logistics.

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I know, even here on a small scale, Dan, we

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have two promoters and they're not really buddies is a

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nice way to put it. And so they're scheduling shows

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on like the same days, you know, maybe you know,

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five miles apart or ten miles apart. You know. For you,

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do you try to like get along with other promoters

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or are you sort of like, hey, I got so

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much work to do with my own, Like I really

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just need to focus here on you know, just talk

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about the dynamics of with other promoters and other shows

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and how easy or not easy that is.

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We get along with everybody, so we don't. We don't

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trash talk anybody, you know, we don't talk about other promoters.

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We don't talk about other shows, certainly not in a

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negative way at all.

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You know.

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You know, people spread rumors about us, and you know

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it's like, you know what, we don't counter it. We

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just will just say no, that's not true, and we'll

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tell people what.

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You know, Yeah, you have a right, you have a

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right to defend yourself with specially.

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Yeah, but but we don't defend ourselves by by by

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trashing someone else. We'll just tell you it's not true,

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and we'll explain the circumstances because we don't want to

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get into the muddiness of it. We just don't care.

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We Our view is we're gonna put our heads down

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and run great shows. And if we run great shows,

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everything will take care of itself. And if people want

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to trash talk us or hate us because of whatever,

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you know what they can do that we can't. We

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can't address that. Especially with the Internet these days, there's

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always going to be people saying things about whatever. But

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we're not going to contribute to that. We genuinely don't.

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I can tell you once a long time ago, when

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I was young and I was doing the shows when

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I was in college. I organized a show and then

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another guy organized a show five minutes away, and this

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is a crazy john. He sent a person dressed as

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a chicken in a big chicken suit like a San

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Diego Chicken costume, stood out in front of our venue

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with a sign directing people no go down the street.

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The card shows that way.

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That was crazy it's funny, but like that's just like

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you don't do you know, you know, I mean, look,

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I don't know if the chicken suit made it funny,

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but you still you just don't do.

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Yeah, it's like we don't worry about it, you know.

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You know that's a high percentage of lot of that

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bad talking or smirchy it comes from people who are

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jealous or wish you know they were, yes, And I

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think that when they realized that, I think that makes

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it easier sort of to turn the other cheek and say, hey,

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they're just just a unhappy individual. And I, you know,

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I can't lose what I got to do and do

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the right thing and and let's chips fall where they may,

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so uh yeah, yeah, And that's it.

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Like like there's a good number of promoters that that

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we get along really well with and and it's fine,

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and we we pick up the phone and call each

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other and talk about dates and making sure we're not

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conflicting with each other, and we get along great.

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We have.

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There's some promoters that hated us, hated us a long

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time ago. Uh. Similarly, there's dealers that hated us a

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long time ago, and they once they get to know us.

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They realize, all right, you guys, you guys are all right.

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You guys run good shows, and we've got the dealers

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and the collector's interest in mind. We're not we're not

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looking out for ourselves. We're playing a long term game,

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you know, we're looking out for the collectors.

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We're looking at you're a you're a dealer too. I'm

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gonna do as a vendor, right, It's it's easy. I

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don't want to say easy, but it's pretty easy to

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to tell a promoter that's trying to do things above

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board make the consumer and the vendors happy. And you

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can also tell when that's not the case. It sort

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of a self serving thing, right, it's John, there's a

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lot high, really high, Dad. It comes it comes out

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in the wash.

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It Well, look, we John, we have haters because we

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don't let dealers leave early. So some dealers don't like

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us for that. They don't like us for that. They

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they get mad that we're telling them what to do.

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And you know, because especially.

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You got some you got to have some sort of

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you know, protocols and rule and there's a reason. There's

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a reason for that too. I mean one of them

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I think you'll agree with this, And I don't mean

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is you know you're advertising so many tables sometimes people

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can't get there till a certain time. Right. You don't

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want a customer to walk in and see ten MP

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tables like hey this John advertised as such.

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Right, John, We've all seen shows that start falling apart

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on Sunday midday. You know, we've all seen those shows,

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and so we make a rule. And the good news, John,

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is that we have big crowds and we have the

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leverage to make dealers stay to the end, and as

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a result they do, and then as a result, the

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attendees have a better experience. It's all about them. We

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don't make more money. It's not about money. It's not

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about us being bullies. It's about creating a better show

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for the attendees. And John, so many people, many dealers

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have hated us for that rule. I mean not a

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huge number, to be honest, but there's a hand full

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that really bitch about us. But eventually a number of

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them have come around and said, you know what, I

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get it. Now, I get it. It's a better show.

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There's a reason, Like, like you said, you're not being

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Let's go.

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You are listening to the Sports Card Nation podcast.

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And here's the thing. If you're a dealer, if when

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I'm setting up at a show and I see the flyer,

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I already know, like, Hey, the show's nine to three

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or nine to four, ten to four.

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Show.

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That's yeah, So I know going in. It's not like

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you're announcing the day of Hey, here's here's the hours

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of the show, like you got you have fair well

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in advanced notice, like, hey, this is the hours of operation.

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And if you want a table, you need to beat

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your signing up for that. That's coming back.

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Wait exactly, it's exactly they chose to sign up for it.

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You know, if they didn't want to do it, don't

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book a table. You know, you don't have to be here.

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I'm not making you shows, especially during the NFL, right

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once those one o'clock games hit. Yeah, it turns out,

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but you know what, that's a great time, like you said,

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to maybe make a couple of buyes with the people

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who are remaining, talk with your dealer friends, walk around

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yourself and maybe buy from from fellow dealers. Maybe sort

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like you said, sort some cards like keep yourself busy

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if that happens, right, and you know what, John, Yeah,

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and same here, yeah, no, same here. But it turns

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out even in the best of shows here it gets

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a little lighter just in the NFL se on a

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Sunday show, let's say so. Uh, but you know that, right,

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it's not a surprise. You can't act like especially if

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it's a show you're familiar with. And you know how

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it goes, like, I know what what the hours of

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the show I'm gonna last for I'm kind of methodical

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on how I pack up, so I'm one of the

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last guys out to the point sometimes my my my

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friend who's the promoter, would be like, come on, Newman,

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let's go pick it up. I want to go I

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want to go home. So I've gotten better with that

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because I used to here's the I'll make this story short.

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I used to pack up in my car's in alphabetical

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order by player, and I don't do so that that's

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saved a lot of time. So but but look.

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I think we all know that you sometimes make a

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deal at the end of the show. Sometimes, Yeah, sometimes

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it happens.

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Yeah, no doubt. So, like you, it's advertised what the

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hours are you? You know, you know I've a lot

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of times when I see someone leave early. Uh, and

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it's frowned upon at the shows. But I don't know

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what the repercussions are. I don't do it, but I.

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Think sometimes there's no repercussions. And yeah, and John, there's

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a snowball effect. It really start John, it was about

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two years ago we started enforcing that rule because we

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were at a show, one of our own shows, and

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we didn't have that rule yet, And it was two

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thirty in the afternoon and several people startarted leaving, and

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then literally an entire section left other than one guy

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on the back. So by three o'clock or three thirty,

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and a show's supposed to send it five, everybody's gone

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except one guy. And that guy was angry. He was

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a dealer, and he was angry because no collectors would

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walk over there because he's all by himself, Like, I'm

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not gonna walk there's only one table over there. I'm

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not gonna walk over there.

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Yeah, that's a great point. I never even really.

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Think and it wasn't fair to him corner.

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Of the market. But some people won't won't flow that way.

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They feel like that the show is where all the

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dealers are the heavy. Yeah.

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Yeah, So that was the triggering point that we decided,

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all right, this isn't gonna happening.

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It's not it's a bad look. And when it does

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happen at shows that I do, Dan, I don't want

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to say with one hundred percent. A lot of time

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you can see by the body language or how they're

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packing their stuff up or leaving like they're not happy.

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It's just it's just just a bad display overall. It's like, yeah,

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I don't know, but it's like a bad it's kind

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of bad sport. It's like, poutside, well you made you

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made the good point earlier.

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It's like the the attendees, like maybe maybe maybe they

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had church in the morning on Sunday, maybe they had

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a family thing, maybe their kid had soccer. Maybe maybe

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they work on the night shift and they don't wake

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up till noon.

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Right, everybody has their own things. Maybe they can't make

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it to the show till two or three in the afternoon,

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and they really want to go, and then they arrive

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and then everybody's already packing up and that's just not cool.

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So we don't do that.

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Yeah, no, I don't. I don't like seeing it. I

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don't do it, and I know why it shouldn't happen. Right,

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It's just it's not even a one side of thing.

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It's both sides. It's a dealer of it's more than

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two sides. It's the promoter, the dealers and the customers. Right.

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It just it does doesn't look good all around. And

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as a reason, you know you advertise, Hey, the show

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is from this time to this time. That's like, there's

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no secret. It's not a secret club where now we

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announced the hour at the door and they're open, non surprise. Yeah,

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people can't you know, and listen if you're mad because

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the day didn't go the way you wanted to. We've

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all been there at least one time, right, Like, you

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can't take your ball and go home and act like right,

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you know what I mean, like they win with win

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with class, lose with class. Right, So you gotta you gotta,

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you gotta, you know.

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John, I liked that metaphor. You can't take your ball

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and go home. That's that's so true. That's kind of

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what you're doing. You're taking that away from the collectors.

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Yea ball and go home. I never even you point

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out that story about the one dealer that was left

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and but no one would go that way. I never

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even thought of that angle too, So that that's another ripple.

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That's another element that I I didn't even think about.

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So like, yeah, someone might say so some deal might say,

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oh man, I'm the only dealer now in this corner.

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I want to corner the market, so to speak. But

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if people just think, well that the show's over here,

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and that's not really the show. That person's affected by

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other people's actions, they unduly so. Right, So it makes

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all the sense in the world. And it's not about

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being a bully. It's just about why the perception right

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and how it looks and the experience of John.

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To us, it's about running a show. You know, like John,

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think about you go to a mall. You know, malls

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require every retail store to be open from all hours.

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You can't go into a mall and you go in

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there and half the stores are closed on a certain day. No,

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everybody that's signed a lease to open a store in

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that mall agreed to abide by mall hours. And there's

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a reason for that. It's just good business. And you know,

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as you know, we don't want to dwell on this

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too much. It's just really one of the things that

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for us makes a show better and that's why we

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do it.

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Yeah, And and I agree with you. I think it's important.

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There's a reason. You're not doing it for the sake

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of doing it. You're doing it because it makes sense

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and there's a there's a logic obviously behind it. H

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kind of one one final question sort of coming down

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the turnpike here. Listen, I'm a content creator as well

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as a show dealer. You know, we've seen the explosion.

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We've seen the explosion of everything in the hobby, from

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shows to prices realizing we've seen uh, you know, even

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content creation on a show floor with people filming with

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camera crews, and you know, you get there's really two sides.

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There's no one betweens. People either love it or they

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disdain it. Right, I can't as a promoter, how do

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you you know, what's your stance and how do you

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approach that topic? Which can you know? There's both sides

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of the outs. There's two sides of that.

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Well, I mean it's you're goalays going to have people

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creating content in today's world. I mean it's just it's

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it's it's it's everywhere. So you know, we we actually

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post signs, you know, in the lobby that that explained

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that there's going to be you know, filming and content

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created at the show. So just so people are aware

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and they're not surprised, you know, we we allow people

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to do what they're doing as long as they're not

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encroaching or pinging on other people, so you know, you know,

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I just think that's part of part of life now

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that nowadays, whether you like it or not. So we

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don't feel like it's a controversial thing generally. I mean,

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if somebody is getting in your face and you know,

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filming you and you don't want to be filmed, you know,

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we've really never had a big issue with that before.

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I imagine if if, if that's something that occurs, you know,

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we would handle it tactfully and professionally.

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Yeah, And I think you said it. It's the if

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it is like I think most people go to shows now, Dan,

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I don't want to paint with a broadbrush, but I

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think most people go to shows. It's sort of part

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of the terrain. Like right, you're like if you haven't

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figured that out now, like where have you been? And

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I don't. I don't mean that. And as harsh as

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that might have came, but I think you said it.

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I think something you said really, you know, I noticed

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like as long as it doesn't like become an issue,

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like you said, someone's following someone around where they don't

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want to be like hey man, get out of my

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face with the camera.

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Well and John, you might have seen this too. I've

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seen people where they're doing a deal and they're either

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buying something or selling something, especially if it's something expensive,

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and they say, you know what, I don't want to

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be on camera for this. And then I've never seen

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that not honored. You know, if somebody's feeling something, feeling

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the deal, they'll say, Okay, that's fine, not a problem.

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And you know, obviously if that, if that person was

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still being filmed, you know, we would certainly step in

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and say, hey, this person requested not to be on camera.

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So and I get that maybe they don't want that

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for their safety, whether they're buying or selling something that

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means that they're of cash or a valuable item with them,

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and they don't want to be on camera for their safety.

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So I totally respect that and we always will.

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Yeah, And I think that's I think I want to say,

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there's a right answer and wrong answer, but that that

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for sure makes sense. Right. If someone's experience is being

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affected and you know about it, it's easy for you

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to say, hey, like you can film, but if this

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person is telling you they don't want you, please respect

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them and go to the you know, move on along

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to some something else right, or or maybe you won't

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be allowed in if you can't do it so well.

487
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And John, vendors listen to us, you know, yeah, because

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they want to be in our good graces, which is uh,

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you know, it's a nice person position for us to

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have that that that everybody will respect and honor our

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rules and and again I think that that leads to

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a better card show.

493
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Yeah. Well, listen, you don't need me to tell you

494
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gus as a promoter, you've got your priorities in order.

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And I think you know, your vendors and your customers

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are all the more better off than obviously the shows

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that you put on are better off for it. So

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it's nice to see that, and you know, keep up,

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you know, to continued success. I don't know if you

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ever make it into the central New York our markets

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maybe not as big as some of those other cities

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we mentioned, but if you do, let me know. I

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would gladly love to set up at a front row show.

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And but as always I give the guests Dan give

505
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out where people can find out where your shows are

506
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coming and when and the times that they're open, from website,

507
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social media, anything you want to put out there, take

508
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your time, and.

509
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Well, thank you John. You can find us at front

510
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rowcardshow dot com. Front rowcardshow dot com, it's one word.

511
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You can also find us on Instagram and Facebook at

512
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front Row Card Show. And you know we're all over now,

513
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So Vegas is our home market. We're in Pasadena, We're

514
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in Phoenix, San Diego, Seattle, Portland, and then coming to

515
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the East coast in Atlanta and Orlando and newly Salt

516
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.160
Lake City, and you'll find us in some other markets soon.

517
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.039
So if you want to learn about us, find us

518
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.640
front Row Card Show and you can find our information everywhere.

519
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Well, listen, I know you're a busy guy. I appreciate

520
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you making some time for us here at Sports Gardination.

521
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Thanks Dan and continued success.

522
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:52.559
Great, thank you for having me John.

523
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Awesome having Dan on. We'll have to get to one

524
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of those shows, and so do you if you haven't yet,

525
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because they they're getting rave reviews and he puts on

526
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a good show and has a lot of entities of

527
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the hobby in attendance and so doing it the right way.

528
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And we'll have Dan back on too for a future

529
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episode as well. So we're coming down the home stretch. Here,

530
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let's hear from our hobby is the People Announcer of

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the week. Love to hear if something you want to do,

532
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:35.880
follow the directions after after airs and hopefully we get

533
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some new ones and you hear yourself on the show.

534
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Time for our hobby is the People Announcer of the Week.

535
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Hey guys, this is Dylan from YouTube Double D Vintage

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Baseball Cards.

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Reminding you that the hobby is the people.

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If you'd like to be the Hobby is the People

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