Aug. 3, 2026

Joe Hollywood "Breaking In Big" E399

Joe Hollywood "Breaking In Big" E399
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Joe Hollywood has made a name for himself in the hobby but he also is very philantrophic as well. I enjoyed getting to know more about him through our conversations for the pod. I hope you do as well.


Talking Points may include:

*Growing up in NYC & the hobby influence.


*Where the "Hollywood" moniker came from.


*Hustling as a young kid.

*Working on Wall Street and the hobby comparisons.


*Topps controlling 75%+ of the major sports.


*Doing 24 live streams. The how and why.

*Hobby Pet Peeves.




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out all right, I am safely in Chicago enjoining the

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show today. In this week if you're listening to this

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on the show day itself, join me tonight Friday, August thirty,

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first f five pm local time here in Chicago. I

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will be on the Mike Burkers main stage with Nick

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Jarmin from CTCA none other on CTCA. We're gonna talk

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about what they do, what what it entailsent future plans.

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I'm I'm excited to be on the advisory board committee

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and really looking you know, anything that can benefit the hobby, right,

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I'm going to be all about that, and that's what

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they strive to do. All right. Well, now at the

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house cleaning's done, let's talk about the guests for this

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week's show and next week show. On episode four hundred

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and I didn't know this gentleman until talking to him.

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I had heard of him, I didn't know a lot

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about him and didn't know what to expect before, you know,

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doing having a conversation with him for the podcast, and

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I went in. You know, you always try to be

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open minded, but I will say this, after we were done,

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I had a newfound perspective of them. I liked him.

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I think he's very sincere and genuine. You know, it

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does help. He's from New York City like me. He's

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from Queens where I'm from Brooklyn. But I'm talking about

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Joe Hollywood and it's made quite a name for himself

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in the hobby and doing very well.

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We're gonna talk.

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I'm going to talk all about that on this in

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next week's episode. So with that being said, and I

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know the intro went a little bit longer because all

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those announcements, but let's get the show started. If you

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see me at the National be sure to track me down,

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tap me on the shoulder and love to meet you,

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shake your hand, talk a little hobby, talk a little life, whatever,

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whatever the case may be. So with that being said,

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let's get the show rolling, all right, real happy to

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chat up the next guest on the Sports Cardination guests.

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We are both New York City kids, so we have

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that in common. Look forward to kind of diving into

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the little bit of that. But he's made quite a

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name for himself in the hobby itself, and first time

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on the program. Happy to have him. Without further ado,

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welcome Joe Hollywood.

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John, It's great to be here.

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I'm excited to speak on the on the podcast and

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looking forward to talking about old times together.

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Yeah, so, you know, I know we talked before I

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hit record and stuff. You're from Queens, I'm from Brooklyn.

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We bo that's New York City for you know, we're

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one big, happy family. You know, I have a you know,

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I always am proud of where I'm from. I know

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you're probably like that too. Like I said, I'm a

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little bit older, but around the same time frame. Just

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talk about you know, I've already spoke about it. People

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don't want to hear they've heard my stories. But you know,

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growing up in New York, you know, during there's all

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always a sports heyday in New York, but especially you

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know in that time period right that that you know,

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New York was a lightning rod for sports, and then

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that how that factored into your how you got into

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the hobby as well.

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Yeah, so it was a lightning rod. It was always

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a lightning rod. Still is still is a lightning rod.

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I don't think that's never going to change in New York.

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But man, oh man, it's hard to be a kid

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growing up in New York and not being a I mean,

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we live it, we breathe it by the newspaper, especially

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back in the eighties, and it just it just immersed

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you with everything that was going on and with the

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with the renaissance of sports radio back in the eighties.

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I remember growing up and w f a N was

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just getting off the ground, if you remember that, and

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Mike and the Mad Dog and Keep Franklin and yeah,

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it was, it was. It was pretty wild seeing how

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it all just kind of captured me as a kid.

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And that was you know, right, it happened exactly as

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they fell in love with sports cards, right, so about

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eight years old, seven years old, this is old like

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becoming really exciting for me, and then nine ten years old,

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as I was just like I just you know, one

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hundred percent committed into loving sports and watching it as

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much as I could.

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You know, growing up, we couldn't afford cable.

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I don't know about you, but we didn't have cable,

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so I was dependent upon WPIX Channel eleven for my

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Yankee And of course that brought the scooter with it,

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so that made me really really happy. I love listening

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to his old stories, and you know, I think I

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even made the charm and my romance for baseball even

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stronger because when you used to hear all that kind

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of stuff, it just made you your eyes open up right,

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so you know, it's just just a little bit of everything.

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It was really really cool not only watching it and

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getting to learn it. And I didn't get a chance

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to have anyone teach it to me, so I kind

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of learned it on my own. And whether it was baseball, basketball, football,

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and it was Wow, it was just just unbelievable growing

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up as a kid in New York.

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I don't think that's the better sport.

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No, And people ask me that too, some type Joe

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I say, I want you even though I'm not there currently,

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I obviously still a family there. I wouldn't change the thing,

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you know, just like you said, it's something that's in

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your blood. I always joke with my wife like if

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I was single, I probably still live in New York.

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It's on it's I it's tongue in cheek, but like

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if it wasn't for you in New York, but it's

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I love going there and and you know, visiting, whether

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it's you know, visit family or going to a game

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or a sporting event. Or my son who's who's from here,

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he's twenty six now, he loves to go with, you know,

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with me, So sometimes we'll we'll take a weekend trip

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or whatnot.

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But uh uh, you know, it's I always feel like

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it's in your blood.

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And everyone I talk to that's from New York sort

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of agrees with that sentiment. So when we think about,

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like where did the hobby start for you? Obviously, like

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you said and I echo that, right, it's very hard

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to grow up in New.

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York and not be a sports fan.

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Right. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's a huge

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sports town as most people. You don't have to from

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New York to know that. So I was a sports kid.

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Sounds like you were a sports kid. How did the

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hobby you know? I found sort of cards by accident, Joe,

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real quick, like nineteen seventy nine. I walked into a

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corner store with my grandpa. I was already a sports fan.

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I didn't know they made cards. I saw Jaws cards,

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but I didn't know they made baseball card until I

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saw him on the front counter. And then really I

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knew what they were, but you know, from seeing other

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cards or nonsports, and then when I saw they had

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baseball cards, it was nineteen seventy nine, tops Baseball. I

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asked my grandfather, you know, could I get a few packs?

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And he let me get three packs. The first pack,

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like the fourth card in was Reggie and the rest

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is history. I was sort of hooked since then. And

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so here we are, you know, forty seven years later.

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For you, how did that? You know, how did the

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hobby start?

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Oh?

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I knew I liked it for a reason, and actually

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pretty similar.

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I walked into you know, we used to call them

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corner stores, and it used to be like candy stores.

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That's what they used to word.

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So I want to explain this to people because I'm

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not sure if everyone had the same experience.

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Like, we didn't have general stores.

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We had these little candy stores used to walk into

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and used to sell cards and like greeting cards and merchandise,

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and people used to go they pick up their newspapers,

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and that's where you used to go pick up your cards.

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We were very rare you would have to go to

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a hobby store to pick up your cards. Went up, right,

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I mean, there'd be a couple of hobby stores, but

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most of the time it was just a corner store.

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That's where they used to be delivered. And my granddad

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and my grandfather bought me a pack in nineteen eighty five.

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I was eight years old, and I'll never forget it.

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And that's where it really just blossoms and it started.

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And then I remember going to the corner stores and

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wanting to buy more cards. And in nineteen eighty seven,

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I was fully hooked, like especially with bo Jackson being

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a Future Stars card on that top set.

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I fell in love with that card. I really did.

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Knowing that in nineteen eighty six they didn't make those cards,

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they didn't have the Future Stars cards in eighty six,

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and then they did it in eighty seven, I'm like,

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oh my god, it was the greatest thing. And just

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totally fell in love with those cards in eighty seven

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and so on and so forth. It just became just

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a oh my god. I became an addiction. Actually, I

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remember plugging those I remember buying a pack of eighty

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six four year basketball. I remember pulling out Isaiah Thomas's

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rookie So, I mean, was it a bad pack with

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whether Michael Jordan? So I wish I would have bought

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more than one pack at the kid they weren't that expensive.

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I remember I went to this place called Terry Sports

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Cards on with Haven Boulevard and that's where we bought it,

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and I only afford one pack and with the pack

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that I bought, so it brings back some of the

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best of memories and they, you know, starting my collection off,

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and it sounds like we have some pretty similar memories.

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And that's one of the reasons why we do this,

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is so we can build that connection between dads and grandfathers,

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or moms and grandmas with their kids or maybe with

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their nephews or their nieces, and build that kind of

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connection with the hobby because I got to tell you,

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it's something really special, and there's something special about people

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building their PCs, finding cards and the rarest of places

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and the stories that you hear. It's unbelievable.

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Yeah, and it's funny.

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A lot of the collectors that I talked to that

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are and I don't think it's just a New York

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City thing, but a lot of them that I talk

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to that are from New York City, they have a

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similar you know, a parent, a grandparent, a brother, a

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cousin or someone that sort of introduced them to the

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hobby and then it goes it goes from there. And again,

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it's not a New York City thing only, but I

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think even maybe a little bit more just because of

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you know, I don't know the area, like you said,

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big sports city, and you're probably already a sports fan

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before you even were a card collector. That was the graduation,

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if you will, I read, you know, just as some

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people know. I know the backstory with your name. You

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appeared in the Woody Allen film and so the you

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got the moniker Joe Hollywood kind of tongue in cheat?

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Was that something as a young as a young kid

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that did you want to do that? It just kind

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of happened. Was it something you were looking to do

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long term and it just you know, didn't fall that way?

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Or you know, how did that even happen?

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For it was the craziest thing.

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I mean, I was in public school and they cast

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it a handful of us, just literally in the school.

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We had no idea what was going on. We actually

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thought we got in trouble. I don't know why. I mean,

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I think I traded half of my sandwich that day

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and I was like, oh my god, if I do

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something wrong, I remember this.

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And then I remember going to.

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The principal's office and it was so nice they're like, hey,

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you got you got chosen to uh possibly be part

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of a movie. And you know, we were to go

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home and bring this paperwork home to our parents and

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I remember bringing it to my mom and she didn't

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understand it, and then it game like a whole thing,

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and and uh, you know, my mom didn't drive at

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the time and didn't have a we didn't have a

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car that worked, and so we had a we were

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dependent upon someone to drive us to New York City

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and the middle of the night, and you know, they

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started filming, and you know that's what nobody understands, like

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they used to start the filming on these things really

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really early in the morning. So I remember getting in

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the car of a four four point thirty in the

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morning and driving to Manhattan, driving to the New York City,

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and my god, it was just one thing after another

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where I just started to really over the next few days,

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like going there, meeting Woody Allen as the kid, and

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I didn't really know much about him, but my family

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made sure I knew way too much. So they painstakingly

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made me watch like several of his movies. And when

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I got to tell you, I am nine years old,

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I didn't want to watch any of his movies.

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I wanted to watch sports.

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I wanted to watch I want to watch the Yankees, John,

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I wanted to watch the Yankees.

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Those Listen, I'm not you know Woody Allen. We could

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go all sorts of directions A great director, right, no

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one too much yet, but not for a nine year

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old kid.

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He's not.

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He's you know, those kind of movies he's making are

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not We're going to interest me at nine, and probably

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not you at all as well.

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It was awful, it was.

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It was tremendously awful, and look very talented, incredible and

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incredible when it comes to movies. But listen, when you're

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nine years old and your family is like, hey, you

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can't watch the Yankees today, even though they have a

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free game on wpix. Instead, you're gonna put on this

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movie from nineteen seventy two and you're gonna watch it

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so you can learn about him. I didn't want to

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learn about him. I just I didn't understand. I was

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just like, just let me go there and do my thing.

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And I don't know. They must have chosen me for

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a reason. I don't think anything I'm gonna watch in

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this movie is really going to help me out. But

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they were determined that I would get to know him.

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And I could tell you nothing. None of these movies

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helped me for anything. It probably actually made it worse.

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It probably made it worse, all right, I'm telling it.

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I recalled. It made me actually start to hate it

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because he I mean.

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They were just so just so over the top, and

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you've got to do this, you gotta. And when you

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talk to him, make sure you look them in the

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eyes and stare at his eyeballs and know I'm one

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hundred percent Italian, and you can only imagine the Italian

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guilt that was coming out, and especially talking to my

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family and then them all giving me advice and I'm

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nine years old and they're all flooding me with his advice.

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Oh my god. It was just like it was. It

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was way too much. So I don't think they realized

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that they did it.

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But it was fun. It was a great experience. I'm

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glad I had to do it. And then you know,

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it just it's unbelievable. Forty years later and I just

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started a movie on Amazon Prime and Apple TV. Could

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signed sealed and delivered with Kevin O'Leary and Gary Vee

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and you know, I'm in a majority of the movie

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and it's about the Hobby and it was awesome. So,

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you know, talk about going from one experience in and.

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Now the movie to signed, sealed and deliver. Is that

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is it? Is it like.

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Accurate or is it like as a script or is

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it just.

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The two years? It was a two hour documentary.

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They came in, they came into my executive offices in

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my studio and you know, they filmed and you know,

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they showed you some of the you know, behind the

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scenes over what goes on when it comes to the

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Hobby and you know, and how the show works, and

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you know a little bit of the roots of how

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we started, but mainly asking opinions of where it's going.

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And I think it was very cool. Gave people some

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insight on what really goes into not only building a business,

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but how far the business has come from where we were.

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And I know that we had a chance to, you know,

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off air just you know, talk a little bit about

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you know, the business where it was to where.

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It is now. And I mean and it's just absolutely

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night and day from.

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I always tell the people Joe like it's always been

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the hobby, but it's almost it's like a different hobby.

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The evil of it.

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It's like, you know, you see the charts right where

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you see like the Neanderthal man and then the evolution

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to modern day man. That's kind of like where the

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high has kind of went. You know, we grew up

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again around the same time. Again, I'm a little older.

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But you know, when we think about breaking today even

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and I've said this on the show numerous times, right,

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if you would have told the younger version of me

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that someday you'll pay to buy in what's called a

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break and someone will actually open the packs for you

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and you won't be opening your own packs, I would

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have thought your nuts.

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Like I even went.

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With my friends, right They're like, hey, I opened mind

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let me open one of yours too, And I'm like, no,

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you open yours too quick, I'm opening my own. Don't

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touch it, you know, And you go from that sort

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of uh, you know, mindset to like you know and

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everyone knows playing it. But if you would have told

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the younger version of me then that that would be

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a thing. I would have thought, you're nuts. And it's

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a it's a huge thing. As we both know. So

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it's a different hobby.

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They're the reason for it.

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And look, it's the same thing that was you know

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from when it started that it brings people together. And

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so the reason it's so it's so prevalent and that

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people enjoy to do it is that they're not doing

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it by themselves. They're doing it with other people. And

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that is the reason where you make the sacrifices. Okay,

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I'm not opening this by myself. I'm opening this with

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a group of other people. And you get a chance

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to share the joy of getting that big hit or

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opening up something that is very unique. I mean, we

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just did that in my show on Friday night Saturday

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early Saturday morning. We were opening up the under Wraps products,

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right fanatics, and let me tell you, they make an

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incredible product. I'm not sure if you had a chance

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to open it. So we're opening up their brand new

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baseball Journey and lo and behold, we open up a

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one out of five show. Hey, Otani, there was a

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special collaboration with Nike, and oh my god, we ended

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up finding out the heresy is worth fifty thousand dollars

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and the person paid less than five hundred dollars for me,

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and it's just it's just simply unbelievas. So when you

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get a chance to have those kind of moments and

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then he celebrating with three thousand people in my room

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that are watching concurrently, it just it just brings like

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a different kind of extent. And I think that's that's

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the difference. I think that people, they're the trade off that, Yeah,

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I like to open up my own packs too if

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I'm in that kind of mood. But I love going

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to a room and maybe gifting a card or a

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box of cards two people, because that's trying to know

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that the hobby grows and we need more more people

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in this hobby. But the more people that we get in,

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the further that this is going to grow, and the

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more people that are going to enjoy it and pass

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it around to their kids and talk about how exciting

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it is. And without that and we've seen what that

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looks like. Nobody wants to talk about.

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That, but someone's at my door. I've got to get

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that be right back.

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Sports Cognation has reasons.

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Before COVID and you go back ten twenty years now hobby,

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I don't want to say it was dead, but it

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definitely wasn't like it is now.

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I mean, it was kind of a lonely world.

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And now take a look at the evolution of it

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where people are treating these cards as works of art,

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which they should for the so many one to one

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and so many unique items that are out there, and

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with the hobby growing as much as it is, it's

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still the fraction of where I think I like to

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see the evolution of it. And I'm an old school

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guy too, so I'm not a great tech person.

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So it's not that I'm I'm.

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A Generation X guy, so I was born in the seventies,

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so it's still I'm still getting used to the tech.

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But man, oh man, it seems really exciting work.

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Yeah, just to piggyback off something you said to Joe,

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I also born in seventy two.

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I'm not shy about you know, what am I going

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to do?

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Right? Like my dad says there's only one way to

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stop getting old, and he's not a fan of it

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right now, so you know, but I too, obviously was

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around before cell phones and the internet.

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And I'm sort of glad, like I like all that

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stuff now.

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Don't get me wrong, but I'm sort of glad I

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knew a time before we're a kid in today or

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a younger person today doesn't remember not having it, right,

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it was always there from their existence, So I sort

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of appreciate it, I think more because I know, you

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know what times were like when we didn't have.

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It, and I also appreciate those times.

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Right, how do we know where our friends were, right

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all the bikes in front of the stoop or or

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you know, there was no cell phone to say like, hey,

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where are you at?

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You know, via text or call.

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So it was just the old school way of like

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looking for a bike or just communicate, Hey, we're going

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to so and so's house after school. We're going to

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do this or this or whatnot. Uh, you know, I

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read in your bio. It didn't go into specifics, but

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it says like you were you were hustling on the

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streets with your cards in New York. Kind of talk

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a little bit about those times and what you were

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what you were doing then.

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Yeah, so it's interesting I was actually buying. So what

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would happen is I went to school in New York City,

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went to college, and I would leave my classes and

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go on twenty third Street. And you'll probably figure out

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what college I went to because there was right off

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election twenty third and I would go on to twenty

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third Street and people used to sell cards on the corner,

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and I remember going there and paying a nickel of

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card and just spending hours upon hours just literally thumbing

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through monster box of the cards that I mean, I

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still have a lot of them today that I just

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that I never got a chance to sell or I

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didn't want to sell. And it just brings back really

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fun memois just of just like taking a look at

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some of these cards and saying, wow, you know, I

476
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spent hours looking at nineteen eighty Rod Caruz right that

477
00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:33.759
I have that.

478
00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:34.599
I haven't my collection.

479
00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:36.759
That I was buying a nickel or a diamond piece,

480
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.160
and I just knew for some reason that that was

481
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.559
something that I should be collecting, and I thought we've

482
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:44.839
gained some value. And whether it was the old Tom

483
00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:47.640
Seaver cards or the Nolan Ryan cards that I was collecting,

484
00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.680
or my favorite player was Ricky Henderson, and I loved

485
00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:53.200
Rocky Henderson, you know, my biggest regret, and they never

486
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:55.920
had a chance to meet Ricky in person. Because I

487
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.279
grew up loving baseball, there's a lot of people you

488
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.880
could love. There was just something about Rickey Henderson. I

489
00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:02.799
love the fact that he would steal basic I love

490
00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.359
that he was a little bit of a cocky leadoff hitter,

491
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.400
in my opinion, the best leader off hitter of all

492
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.559
time obviously, and just the things that he that he did,

493
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:13.759
a snatch catch, I mean, it was everything that he

494
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:18.799
did and that really I really love that. And the

495
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.039
bittersweet part about this is you never had a chance

496
00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:24.279
to meet him in person. The worst part about on

497
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:27.400
my show, and I never opened up the product before

498
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.200
the night that the rumors were circling that he passed away.

499
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.640
It was the same night that I actually had a

500
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:38.640
box of nineteen eighty tops BBC certified, and I said, hey, guys,

501
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:39.920
you know we're going to try to hit this Rickey

502
00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:42.640
Henderson rookie tonight. He was my and I hate eusing

503
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.319
the word idol, but he was really the person that

504
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.680
I really loved growing up. And they said that he

505
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.400
passed away and I just couldn't believe it. I was

506
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.680
like that, I can't die. It's Ricky Henderson. And so

507
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.480
that's my biggest regret that I had. I never had

508
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.720
a chance to meet him as far as sports are concerned.

509
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.559
But my god, I mean that guy just get I mean,

510
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:03.160
just meaned so passionate. I know a lot of people

511
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.240
in New York were passionate about don Nnningly and he

512
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.119
was great. He was the hitting inn right, And people

513
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.799
were passionate about Dwight Gooden and Dallas Strawberry. I mean

514
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.359
those guys were you know, men men among his boys, right,

515
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:14.839
Ricky Anderson.

516
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.240
Yeah, like you said, the greatest leadoff hitter a guy

517
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.400
could steal a base and hit a home run and

518
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:25.240
a lot those don't always go together that often. And uh,

519
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:28.400
just fun to watch, right, Just an exciting guy to

520
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:31.880
watch because whenever he got on base, regardless of how

521
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:36.400
it was a walk, hit by pitch, a single or whatever,

522
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.880
it was like no base was safe. Like you know,

523
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.240
you rarely see guys steal third anymore. That was like

524
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.160
no big deal to him. And I don't know what

525
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.960
his his percentages his third base stolen bridges are, but

526
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.160
I venture without even knowing, it's probably a safe guess

527
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.720
he probably is the leader in that and the third

528
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.720
base if anyone. I played baseball, So it's not not

529
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:01.039
that I was a base dealer.

530
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:03.359
I was more of a longball guy.

531
00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.839
But that's a hard base to steal, no matter how

532
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.960
fast you are and how soon you are, just because

533
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.119
it's just an easier throw, uh and a little bit

534
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.279
shorter and so but he would do it, uh, like

535
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:17.400
it was no big deal.

536
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.480
And again that stuff manufacturers run.

537
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:23.359
So if you're a fan of that team, you know

538
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.119
he gets on base, you know things are gonna get

539
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.759
pretty interesting. But again, he had for average, he had

540
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:34.119
three hundred numerous time, just all around, you know, defensively.

541
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.200
He obviously with a speed he you know, he could

542
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:37.920
track it down.

543
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:40.480
So there was really no you know, I know people

544
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.599
bag at him with some of the quotes and stuff,

545
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.799
but he was not a dumb guy either, like you're

546
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.599
not you You're not that good of a a great

547
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:51.759
of a player without being a smart a smart guy.

548
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.480
So you know, I wasn't necessary a rickey guy per se.

549
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.119
But I won't argue that he wasn't fun to watch

550
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.799
and then interesting anytime he was gonna say, uh, say

551
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:06.519
something right and very like you said, confident, right, but

552
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.359
he you know, there's a difference between you know, khaki

553
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.759
and confident right, confident both back it up right. Anyone

554
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.880
could be cocky, but he the proof was in the

555
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.720
pudding with him. And again I was shocked too when

556
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.119
when the news came across my phone and I had

557
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.960
to read it twice Joe, you know, like is this true?

558
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.640
Like and I had seen him, not in person like

559
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:33.960
he was. He did an eBay event at the National

560
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.359
I think it was like four months or whatever it was, uh,

561
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.559
and he looked great. You know, I stood there and

562
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.839
watched him, and he looked great. And so when I

563
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:43.920
when I read that he had passed away. I was

564
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.480
kind of like, kind of caught me off car like

565
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.279
what happened? You know, I've seen him four or five

566
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.000
months ago. You know he looked fine, but you just

567
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.359
never know. And obviously a sad day. I think he

568
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.440
was sixty nine, but that's young, you know, and in

569
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:02.000
today's day and age, and you know, it was a

570
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.720
sad day for baseball.

571
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.480
In general and every in life. You know, reading that

572
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:09.480
he was gone.

573
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.920
Great, I mean, but you know what the best part

574
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:17.759
is that you remember those memories, You remember the you

575
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.400
know whoever it might be, maybe with Tim over somebody else.

576
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:22.039
And then you say to yourself, you know, a what,

577
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:24.400
now it's time for me to find a new favorite player.

578
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.000
And so that's what I did. Now, So now I

579
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.039
got Jalen Brunson, and Jalen Brunson's my guy. And let

580
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.079
me tell you, I takes a real good guy to like,

581
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.599
because man, after the fifty three years, we have a

582
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.839
championship here in New York and my guy and I

583
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.960
am so excited. I elated about it. My son was excited.

584
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:43.039
My son was just as excited as me. And he's

585
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.000
fourteen years old, and oh my God, and he was

586
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:46.720
like breaking down an excitement.

587
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.519
It was this. It was just a very special moment

588
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:50.519
of Wow.

589
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:52.960
I mean, look at where we were to where we

590
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.720
are now and all the moves that we made, and that.

591
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:56.319
Was a tough team.

592
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.039
Like, look, i know we beat them in five games,

593
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:00.480
but when min Yama, that guy is going to look,

594
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.319
that guy's gonna win multiple time. He's going to go

595
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.720
down and probably one of the best of all time.

596
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:06.640
When that guy is doing what he's already shown that

597
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.000
he can do in a couple of years. I mean,

598
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.119
I'm only afraid to see what that guy's gonna do

599
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.799
three to five years. It's probably gonna be astronomical. But yeah,

600
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.519
it feels good for the one of the first times ever,

601
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.359
it feels real good to be a Knicks fan right now.

602
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.519
I'm sure that you must have celebrated. I'm assuming you're

603
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:24.519
a Knicks fan as well.

604
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:28.759
Bet so, I'm gonna be very honest. I'm uh, I

605
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.200
like the Nets. I'm probably not the biggest fan of you.

606
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.839
Basketball ranks sort of fourth on my major sport Like

607
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.960
it goes football, Baseball, one, one A, then then hockey,

608
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:39.519
believe it or not.

609
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:40.519
I'm on the new York rate.

610
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.200
I picked up my teams this year didn't are not

611
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.400
fair and well Mets, Rangers, Steelers made I'm a Steeler fan.

612
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.799
I'm not a Jetser Giants fan. That's a long story

613
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.599
that I've told on the podcast. I just you know,

614
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.000
I grew up in that steel curtain error and me

615
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:01.079
and Joe Green became my ultimate and the guy in football.

616
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:02.160
So that's good.

617
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:06.599
Only like non New York City team that uh sort

618
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:12.039
of bucks the trend, so Metts, Steelers, Rangers. And I

619
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.759
was just a casual basketball fan, but being a New

620
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.119
York City kid, I knew what that that title would

621
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.119
mean the city and Knicks fans, and so I was glad,

622
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.920
you know, I was. I was sort of leaning to them,

623
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.359
just being a city kid. It was sort of a

624
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.559
no lose for me because if san Antonio won, you know,

625
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.519
Wemby but well said by you, right, that's the guy

626
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.079
that's going to He's still super young, and he's in

627
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.759
the finals this year, like like you said, he's gonna

628
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.319
have a ring or two at the very least, and

629
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.440
I'll arguably be bar an injury, probably arguably one of

630
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.799
the best players to put on the sneakers and play

631
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.880
basket so their time will come. But uh, you know

632
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.480
a lot of people, you know what, you can't win

633
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.319
a title with Jalen Brunson and all that, you know,

634
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:01.799
sports radio stuff. And I think the Knicks and Brunson

635
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.559
proved that theory to be incorrect.

636
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:06.400
And that's what I loved. I love that it proved.

637
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.519
I love the fact that he was a smaller guy.

638
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:10.680
You know, say, I know they list him at six

639
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:13.200
two or six three, ain't sixty three plus six foot.

640
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:16.480
I love the fact that a small guard.

641
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.519
Was able to lead it to a championship and really

642
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.480
debunk all of the naysayer, especially everyone that said, oh

643
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.039
they needed a one A one A player. They had

644
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:28.079
a one A player name was Jalen Brunton. It's not

645
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.720
my fault that the Dallas Mavericks didn't offer him a

646
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:32.920
great contract when they could have, and they could have

647
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.240
extended him. It's not my fault that we didn't give

648
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.119
up hardly and you know, we didn't give up any

649
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.400
assets for him. So for me, it was really exciting

650
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:43.559
to have him on the team. I mean, just probably

651
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.319
the best footwork in the league. Love the work ethic.

652
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.640
I always go back and I see those training videos

653
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.079
with him and his dad, and you know, it's just

654
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.400
I love the connection he still have together on the

655
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.599
bench and you can see it, and you can see

656
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.680
the love they have for each other, and it's something

657
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.279
unbelief And I think that if you know, I know

658
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.400
what a distance forth for you. And hey, listen, I

659
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:04.880
love the New York Rangers. I am a New York

660
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.759
Giants guy. I mean New York Giants have. My favorite

661
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.720
Giants player of all time is Mark Bavaro. He will

662
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.200
always be my favorite Giants player of all time. I

663
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.039
might not have been able to meet Ricky, but the

664
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:16.960
next person that I need to meet is Mark Bavarro.

665
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.519
But my god, that guy. His nickname on the team

666
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.640
was Rambo, And I got to say, I mean, the

667
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.680
guy played with a broken jaw against the New Orleans

668
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.599
Saints and then went ahead and caught two touchdowns. So

669
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.039
I mean, you want to talk about a tough, tough guy,

670
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.880
I mean that, and I love that. I love somebody

671
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.200
that was able to, you know, just work hard and

672
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.079
work hard to get results in him. And so yeah,

673
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.279
growing up and that you can tell. I'm not sure

674
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.559
if you're noticing this they're all around that same time

675
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.279
period when I started to love sports. That's when these

676
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.559
guys were in their heyday. And now I'm able to,

677
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.160
you know, to bring that forward. And I love listening

678
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.200
to my son and him telling me what he enjoys.

679
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.079
And then the best part is debating about it, especially

680
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.200
with my audience, right, because I have a very passionate

681
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.000
and a very generous ones, right, So when they start

682
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.119
to get passionate and about something, sometimes.

683
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.440
Yeah, no doubt, I think.

684
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.160
You know, depending on whatever you grow up, right, you

685
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.640
sort of gravitate to the stars of that era and

686
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.640
if you know in your case where you're liking all

687
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.759
New York. For me, I just wasn't a Jets and

688
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.359
Giants guy. The coke commercial would mean Joe, the kid

689
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.720
that was in that commercial wouldn't mean Joe. If you

690
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.279
saw a picture of me, we looked similar at the time.

691
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.799
Actually were are the same age when that commercial came out.

692
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.880
So I just didn't like the giant listen. I took

693
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.279
a lot of abuse from my New York City friends

694
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.640
that are like, how could you be a Steeler fan?

695
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.680
You can't even go to the games, And I'm like, well,

696
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:41.759
I can't go to the games now it did, but

697
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:43.880
someday I hope too.

698
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.920
But stuck with it.

699
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.119
You know. Obviously I jumped on sort of the heyday

700
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.200
to Steel Curtain they were winning, but I didn't leave

701
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.240
Ship in the eighties when they were one of the

702
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.920
worst teams in football either as well. So but yeah,

703
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.799
and Bavaro, uh, you know, even though I wasn't that's

704
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.519
their Giants fan. I was a sports guy, so you know,

705
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.960
you read all that stuff and head scratching, like now,

706
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:12.519
guys get a bone and they're out for to six weeks, right,

707
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.280
and uh, just a different area. Hear the stories about

708
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.920
you know, Ronnie lot amputating part of his finger to

709
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.239
finish a game out. You know, it's just like crazy

710
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:26.559
stuff Jack Youngbud playing out a broken leg as a linebacker,

711
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:32.400
Like that's just insane, insane stuff that you honestly you'll

712
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.039
you'll never see again like that and probably shouldn't truth

713
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.000
be told. But that was the that was the heyday

714
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.920
of toughness. And you know, frankly, it was before U

715
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.719
the concussion protocols and before we knew CT and a

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lot of other stuff like that, So it was just

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sort of that was the time, the time period.

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Time for all.

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Of the week.

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What's up, Sportscardination. This is Brett McGrath with Stacking Slabs podcast.

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Remember the hobby is the people. If you'd like to

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be the hobby is the people announcer of the week,

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do a one or MP three file and send it

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to Sportscardination PC at gmail dot com.

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Hey John, you want to have a catch