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Sports guard Nations, Hobbies, the People, Wheely News and Interviews.
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It's you on number.
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One Soul Sports Garnation. Hobby is the People.
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Sports guar Nation. What is up? Everybody? Welcome to episode
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three seventy five sportscard Nation. As always, Glad to be back.
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Hope you enjoyed the Super Bowl. Not the greatest super
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Bowl all time, actually pretty boring by Super Bowl standards,
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but I do believe the best team won the game.
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Congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks on their second Super Bowl ring. Glad.
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I have my guest on, who I consider a good
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friend in the hobby. She's back again. I believe this
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is her second appearance on the show. I could be wrong.
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She's also my Hobby Hotline teammates, one of them of
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the sixteen and Laurena zo'shaeffer and very talented young lady.
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She's a dealer along with her husband Brian, like myself,
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and so we're gonna talk a little bit about, you know,
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being a dealer, traveling, how do you get your stuff there?
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All that fun stuff. But we're gonna chop up some
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hobby as well. So it's been a little bit before
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we had her on it figured it's a good time
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to kind of catch back up. So she is today's guest,
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and I'm very happy to have her on the show.
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Always enjoy having the next guest on the Sports Cardination podcast.
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She's been on here before and she hopefully she'll come
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back even after this episode again, but always a pleasure
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and I consider her a very good friend. Lauren Rizzio Schaeffer,
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Lauren goes here, welcome back as.
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Always, thank you for having me. I'm so happy to
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be back.
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Yeah no, yeah, thank you is more than thank me.
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So but uh, you know, you're you're you're very you're
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pretty active in the hobby or your you're a teammate
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of mine on hobby Hotline there. I always say, you know,
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glad to have you amongst the six folks that we
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do have involving that show. Now you're a veteran. I
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think the maybe the you know, the last either the
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last time in the one you were more newer, but
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now you're you're one of the vets and do a
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great job. And uh, you know just kind of where
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the hobby is right now, like you know, you know,
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is a hobby in a healthy place. I know what's
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doing well, and sometimes you know, and I think you'll
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agree with this one. I think sometimes we put too
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much emphasis on the dollar signs, and obviously it's doing
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well if we look at it just from that perspective.
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I'm not trying to say that it's not important, but
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to me, it's gotta be more than that. Like, where
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do you how do you see where we are right
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now here as we start twenty twenty six.
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I think we're in a pretty good spot. I just
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went to the first card show the year in Dallas,
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the Dallas Card Show, and we set up and we
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had a great time, and it was packed. There were
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so many people there, so I think, I mean, if
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you want an indication of interest, that was definitely there
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at the Dallas Card Show, which is a great show
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to go to. So for it to be the first
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card show of the year and for people to come
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out and be excited and be active, I mean, I
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think we're off to a good start, at least for
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twenty twenty six.
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Yeah, no doubt. You know it shows, that's a whole
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We could do a show on shows, right and I
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did shows and we've and we've talked about this even
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on Hobby hotline south right. We're getting a lot more shows.
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We're getting them in countries that haven't had them before.
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We're getting them me it's not even a you know,
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uh uh, you know, a nation of national thing necessarily,
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but we're even getting shows in smaller cities that have
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never had them here in the States and not just abroad.
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Do you think there's a point, And I guess the
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easy answer is to say, well, we'll get to that
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point when people stop going to them. But do you
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think there's a tipping the scales points where there can
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be too many shows too often?
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I'm sure, I'm sure it's possible, but I don't. I
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think we're a long way off from that personally. I
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think also different shows are different purposes. Like we we
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go to not a ton of shows, but we set up,
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you know, quite a few. And we've been to you know,
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Not Express, which is a you know, festival with a
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card show. We've been to National Now and set up.
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We've been to Dallas Card Show many times, it's our favorite.
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We've been to the West Coast Card Show. And they
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all are different. They all have different energy, they have
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different crowds, they have different purposes, they have different scopes.
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nothing's impossible, I think we're a long way off from that.
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I think everybody who puts on a card show right
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now that is able to do it again knows that
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it's it's grueling and it's I mean the Culture Collision show,
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it's a new show and it's doing really well, and
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they you know, we're starting to expand to more shows,
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you know, more than one a year, and it's it's hard,
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and Raphael works really hard to make that show successful.
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And I think, but I think it's necessary. I think
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that you know, people like Raphael saw that there was
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a a need and he filled that need. And so
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I think that the ones, I think it with a
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lot of things in the hobby, if it's not done well,
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or it's not done with good intention, it it won't last.
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So I think that there may be one day too
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many card shows, but I think the ones that serve
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a great purpose for a great amount of people, they'll
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always thrive, they'll always be there.
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So how many shows are you getting to as a
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consumer where you're not necessarily set up and you're just
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going to take it in? Buy cars, sell whatever, and
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how many are you doing as a dealer as I do.
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Most of the time we are setting up as a dealer.
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We have a camper and we you know, take road
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trips and stuff. So there are times where a lot
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of the time when we're just going to a card show,
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just walking around checking it out, not setting up. It's
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when we're on the road and you know, the timing
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is just right that we've hit when there are card
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shows close to us. So majority of the shows we're
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setting up. And where I'm at, there actually was a
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card show this past weekend, but where I'm at in
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central Florida, we don't have a big card community. We
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don't have a big card show, so you know, so
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this one we didn't set up. It was mostly TCG,
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so I think that was part of it. But also
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it wasn't advertised super well. I live here and I
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didn't know anything about it until like two days before
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because my local hobby shop was sponsoring the trade night.
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That's how I found out. So most of the shows
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we go to, we do set up as a dealer,
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but we do like to just kind of cruise around
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and see and feel out, like you know what it's
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like at different shows because it's also just fun. It's
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just fun to see like what different crowds are, like,
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what different people are collecting, what they have to show,
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like and just talk to people. My favorite time to
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talk to people is at card shows when we're set
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up because it's very easy. You have a very easy
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end for a conversation, and you know, and nobody feels
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better like cutting conversation shorter, moving on. So I know,
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I'm like taking this question to its aally different places.
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But no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
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Yeah, just I like I like better when we're set
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up because you know, we're I feel like I'm actually
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like serving a purpose when I'm talking to somebody. But
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I but we do like to just go check out
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card shows, walk around just you know, see Brian goes
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with very strong intention. He likes to go and be
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like with a purpose, whereas I just I'm like, yeah, cards,
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like obviously I want to be in a room full
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of people and cards. So but most of the time
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we're set up. But he he's the main you know,
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seller guy, so I get to kind of like walk
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around more often than well used to. Now I'm the security,
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I'm top dog security for us, so I have to
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see the table now. But yeah, I like, I like
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setting up more at shows than anything for me.
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So yeah, and you're luck as a dealer myself and
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I set up now, I'm usually set up with some
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friends of mine and hobby aquaintances. Well, so if I
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really wanted to, like obviously got to use the wrestroom
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or what have you. If I wanted to walk around,
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it probably can't. I can, but sometimes it gets tricky
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because then I have my stc like bolk subber table,
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and that's usually pretty happened. So I don't get to
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walk around as much as as i'd like to, And
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I don't know that might be good and bad. It
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probably saves me some money stays in my wallet rather
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than funneled out. You know, as a dealer talking to
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a dealer, has your approach changed with how you do
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shows as you do one?
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especially in the hobby, you just kind of learn what
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feels right. So we've done enough Dell's card shows that
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it's like we have our we have our routine, we
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know what works, and if we're flying, it's different than
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if we're driving with the camper, but we have you know, routine,
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and you know, we kind of hone it in, So yeah,
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I did. I will say I sat next to somebody
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this last card show. He was sharing the table with
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the guy who's next to us all the time. And
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he's newer to the hobby and he never set up before,
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and he he just had one case, but he had
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a bunch of stuff. But you know, he was new,
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so he was still figuring things out. But he we talked,
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and he talked to a lot of people, you know,
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a lot of content creators that were coming through, you know,
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expressed like gratitude to them. He learned a lot from them. Whatever.
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too in talking to him while we were there. And
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one of the things I told him is and it
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was late. It was late Saturday, so we'd already been
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set up Thursday, Friday all day Saturday. It was slammed
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at Dallas, which was great, but it was later in
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the day on Saturday, and I told him that one
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of the things I used to do that I don't
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do anymore. I used to greet everybody who like stopped
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and paused at our table. I used to say, you know,
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hi as a go into everybody, and that's not sustainable
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for me anymore. So I told them, I said, you know,
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I'm polite, I pay attention, but I'm not like I
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don't like ask how you're doing, and like try to
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you know, I try not to treat everybody like a
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customer in a shop, you know. I try to let
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them breathe now if they're just walking, you know, because
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sometimes they're just checking things out, and you know, you
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get them kind of roped into a conversation they feel
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like they can't leave or whatever. But also for me,
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it trains so much of my energy and then I'm
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I'm just spent and I can't like think or process
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as well as i'd like. So I'm trying to. I
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told them, I said, you know, you get better about
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your social battery and kind of lending it out. So
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that's one thing that's not like a tangible card thing.
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I think that for us, I've I've definitely adapted that.
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Like if I want to have the energy to like
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also then go to trade night or to see my
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other friends, or you know, to go look at cards. Myself,
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I can't expend my social battery on every person that
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walks by.
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which I don't really that we don't have them in
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this area like we used to. So most of the
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shows I'm setting up with are just it's that day
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and that's it, right, So I can get away with
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talking a little bit more than if that was a
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two to three Friday Saday type show or even Thursday
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Friday said, you know, four day show. So I fully
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get that, and I compare people too. And maybe this
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is not the greatest analogy, Lauren, but like it's an
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Uber ride, right, if you ever were an Uber driver
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or a rider, right, some people get in and they
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want to talk, like from the jump Street, let's go, hey,
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how's your day? You know, house business? Is you busy today?
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their phone, they don't want any of the chit chat,
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and you know, and I think sort of like the
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show is like that with people attending the show, right,
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a long time. I did my first show in nineteen
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eighty seven at fifteen years old, and when I first
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started I'll make this story short but a bit longer.
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I had no bedside man, so I didn't talk. I
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was a shy fifteen year old, so I didn't You
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were shy. I was shy. I don't to the point.
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To the point, Lauren, I know that people, some people
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listening to the show religiously like we heard the story
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Newman stuff. But I'll give you the cliff now. One
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of the you know, the first few shows I did,
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I didn't even like say how you do it? Can
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I help you? I sat there and had I had
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a babyface. I was younger, and I remember a few
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people would say, hey, when your dad there's a card.
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I'm interested. When your dad gets back, I like to
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talk to them, see we can do a little bit
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better price wise, and I'd have to say, you know,
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my squeaky boy was like, oh, this is my stuff. Really,
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they were taking it back because I didn't say anything.
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I just sat there, so they just figured my dad
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or whoever was with was in the bathroom or not
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behind the table at them. I've obviously honed that skill,
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and I'm not that shy kid anymore. But one thing
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I've gotten better at is kind of what you said, right,
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is sort of pacing myself and also knowing, you know,
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and you learn my trial and error. Right. Sometimes you
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say to someone how you doing, how's it going today?
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Is there anything particularly you're looking for? And you can
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tell like I didn't really want to be approached, And
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sometimes no, I'm good, and they don't stay long and
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they leave they didn't really want I know, it sounds good,
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but they didn't really want that sort of conversation. Some
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people feel more comfortable just kind of looking at what
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you're offering in your showcases without feeling like you're right
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there above them, like watching what they're looking at. And
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it's one skill I think I've improved. No one's perfect,
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but through crown Ever, I kind of know those kind
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of folks, right, and I sort of let them sort
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of set the tone if they kind of they come
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to the table and they look up at me as
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almost if to you know, like make a verbal like
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you know, greeting or not or nonverbal greeding. Then I
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might say, hey, how's it going today? You're enjoying the
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show whatever the you know the bad is. But I've
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gotten a good job. I've done a better job of
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like reading body language. And taking those cues to know
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those that are looking for that and those who, hey,
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don't say nothing to me. I'm just gonna look at
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the guards. If I want something, I'll let you know.
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And nothing wrong with either person. Different styles exactly, and
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I've gotten better at like telling those two types of personalities.
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Sometimes you know, maybe you're swing and miss, but I
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think I sun miss a lot more in my earlier
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years as a dealer than I do now. And what's
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what's I don't want to say it's hurt me. But
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now we're doing the SCC bolt table. I've lost some
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opportunities to do that even when someone wants that, and
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those that know, most people who know me know, like
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if I'm busy at that table, I'm not ignoring them.
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And I'm usually set up again with a buddy of
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mine who can make us sale while I'm busy there,
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and we can just kind of once we get a
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moment and be you'll hand me you know, that sale money,
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and hey, that's sold there or whatever. So if there's
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a negative to doing that, that might be yet, but
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most people understand that I'm not doing it intention I
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just can't get to them at the moment. And I'm
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also blessed to have, you know, friends that are set
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up near me that can kind of help me, you know.
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And sometimes they remind me like you only dinner Newman. Uh.
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I'm you know, doing more work than you are, so
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but you know you do the shows.
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Uh.
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And when you go to shows as a consumer and
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a deal I think you even know both, right, Because
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I'm a I'm a guy, I'm a pricer. And the
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reason I price all my stuff is because when I'm
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a consumer and I'm just at a show going from
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table to table, it's a pet peeve of mine, if
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you will. I don't like when stuff's not priced. I
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hate it. Maybe that's that still, that little shyness in me.
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I don't like to ask like how much is this?
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How much is this right? Especially if there's multiple cards
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you might be interested in. I get why some people
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don't price stuff because, as we both know, things that
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can change very quickly. But that's what a price comes for.
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You can you can price over the other one higher
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or lower? Right, But I'm a pricer. I think most
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people human nature don't like to see it without having
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I think And I did a poll on one of
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my social media a couple of years ago, like do
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you rather see a showcase with prices on it or not?
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And I think it was eighty eighty percent want to
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see priced cards rather than not price. So I've sort
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of taken that, you know, my own sort of personal preverence.
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And again, even if you price your stuff, and if
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someone perceives it as being high, they can they really
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want it, they can say, job, I'm interested that can
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you do better? I think you're little, you know, and
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that most people will tell you like, hey, the cops
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on this is this? Yeah, And that doesn't bother me.
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I get it. It's part of the process. It's part
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of the fun. Some people get perturbed by that. I
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look at as you know, part of the process, and
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I don't take it. I don't take it personal, especially
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if it's done in a in a respectful sort of way.
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Right, you know, it's time for a quick breaks will
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I'm not a big fan. When someone said, let me
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get your take on it. When someone says when a
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guy over there has it for that, and then I
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was like, it's like Titford, like I'm now it's like
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a battle between me and this other guy. Like you
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can say, hey, I can get it for the I
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have an opportunity, but it's almost like that guy's better
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than you and maybe he's better price, you know, But
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I always, you know, I always, and I'm like, why
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did you buy it? He goes, well, you know that
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didn't think you, Mike Ordino, so well, I rather, I like,
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you bet, I'd rather buy it for that if I
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can do that, you know. So again, everything can go
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one way or the other. But as long as someone
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uses some tag, you know, that's but I'm a pricer,
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you know. What's your kind of takeway in on that
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sort of aspect of being a dealer.
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Yeah, I I mean because most of the table, like
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some of my stuff is mixed in, but my husband
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takes the lead, Brian takes the lead, and it's most
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of his, you know stuff, and he will price it
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before the show and you know, get it all ready
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and sometimes one will flip in or we'll you know,
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he'll do a trade and then we have you know,
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and it's always always when he steps away for whatever reason,
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and it's you know, it turns from three minutes into
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two money into thirty minutes. And they always want to
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know the one card in the case that I don't
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have a price for, and I'm texting him and then
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the service is bad. I'm not getting a response, and
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I also can't look it up myself because the service
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is bad. And like that whole thing. So I, from
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both sides of the table, like the cards to be
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priced because I like to have an idea too, like
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I we've been doing more wrestling. We used to do
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a lot of like high end bass we. I'm again,
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I'm the security, you know, big dog. But we did
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a lot of like high end basketball. We love basketball,
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and my husband's been doing this since he was a
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small kid, so he knows it through and through. He
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was opening some of this stuff and now it's you know,
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like five six figures, so he knows it backwards and forwards.
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And now we're doing more WWE and wrestling alongside, you know,
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a smaller offering of the high end basketball. And I'm
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much more comfortable with the WWA you e, I am
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much more comfortable with the pricing on that, the history
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on that, the understanding on that. So and also w
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it's a different breed. I don't I don't know so
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much about you know, like between baseball, basketball, football, you know,
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the difference is there. I know, like one difference is,
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you know, with football, a lot of times it's week
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to week. You know, things happen, somebody gets taken out
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for the season, and prices changed immediately, So I know,
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like that's one characteristic of football. But with WWE, it's
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kind of more based on like what you're feeling. It's
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based more on vibes, and I like that because you
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can kind of like interact with people and there is
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a market, so you do, you know, follow like you know, pricing,
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but it doesn't dip crazy like football. They don't get
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crazy crazy high like basketball yet anyway, So circling back,
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I like pricing the cards out because then I at
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least have like a mental starting point. And I think
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I think for every no, I think consistently across any
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you know, any sport, TTG. Whatever. Personally, I think pricing
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is important because it gets you, like I said, as
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starting point, it's the seed that germinates into where are
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we going from here? You know, if it's way too
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high and you're like, I know, they're pricing it that
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high because they must have some ulterior motive and I
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don't want to engage with that. That's fine. Or they're
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pricing it that high because maybe they won't want to
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let go of it, but maybe they will in the future.
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So if we talk about it, they might remember me.
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You know, we can down the line, we might have
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a deal on our hands. So I feel like pricing
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is an important part of the process on both sides
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of the table. And so I like that when I
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see that there are prices, I'm similarly like, I don't
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I don't know if I really want to go there,
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because I feel like then I have to, like, you know,
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then invest time into it and do I really want
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to whatever it? Just I can do the metal.
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And be honest. Right, You always when someone doesn't price
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their cards and you're interested in something and you do
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ask them, like, hey, well how much is that? In
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that you're always fearful that that price is going to
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be high because you've already you've already shown your hand.
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It's like poking. So if that price is like not
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even like ballpark kind of where you want to be, now,
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you feel kind of funny because you just said if
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it's way too high at least in the what in
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your opinion? Right, you reel like you don't even want
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to make an offer because it's not going to You
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also don't want to be insensitive or insulting. Then you're like,
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so they say the price and it's you're not even
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in the same arena, and then you sort of walk
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away and you feel, you know, at least I do
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I feel like ah man, you know, like you feel
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like do you feel like there's judgment going sort of
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both ways? Right? And that's not a comfortable always a
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comfortable uh situation where for its price, you know, like, hey,
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this is sort of it's not where I want to be,
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but it's close enough where least initiate a conversation and say, hey,
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can you do better on that? Or what's your best price? Right?
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And then maybe meet halfway. You know, I think most
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negotiations can be you know, consummated when there's a little
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a halfway point, when there's no price in you are
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asking that, you know, if you want to say that,
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non sticker shock, and then it's sort of if it's
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it's a weird place to be in because you're like, okay, thanks,
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and then you walk over yeah, right, or you start
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to walk away, and I've had someone say maybe and
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maybe someone that knows me like John, what you know?
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Or hey, what do you want? Like what are you thinking?
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You know? And then I'm like, you know, I remember
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I've said this, like I mean, I don't think we're
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close enough. That's my polite way of saying, like you're
475
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:53.319
a little higher than I want to be, you know,
476
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.400
And you know what, it's their card. They can put
477
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:59.359
a million bucks on, you know, and you're just the same.
478
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.319
You don't have to buy it if you don't like
479
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:03.839
But but it's always a weird place to be in
480
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.160
because you're sort of in the negotiation and it may
481
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:09.680
it may not be able to you know, complete it.
482
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.160
You don't want to, you don't want to hurt feelings necessarily, right,
483
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.079
But you know, what are you gonna do? Right? You
484
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.519
do the best uh uh you can. But yeah, that's
485
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:21.799
one of the reasons I price and I put a
486
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.240
little sign on on my showcases, like if you're interested
487
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:27.759
in something, let me know it's more or less me
488
00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:30.839
saying like it's just like you said, it's a starting point.
489
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:34.599
It's not the end all be all necessarily, you know.
490
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.559
And most people will will will do that and and
491
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.039
that that helps. But some people are you know, just
492
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:44.960
they don't like the price. They're not gonna even haggle
493
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.359
with them. You gotta you gotta keep that in mind.
494
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.880
And you know, I've even I you know, I have
495
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.440
a bargain box and I put you know, discounted cards
496
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.279
in there, if you will, And someone found a card
497
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.200
had marked five bucks and they're like, John, this is
498
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:01.720
like a sixty out of the car, And I'm like, okay,
499
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.000
They're like, are you going to sell it for? And
500
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.200
it was very nice on their part. They were like
501
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.880
giving me a heads up, like you want to change
502
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.240
the price, and I'm like, no, I mispriced it in
503
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.359
your favor, good cut, good catch by you to the
504
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.960
victor goes to spoils. You're gonna sell it, you know.
505
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.920
They said you're going to sell for five bucks. I'm like, yeah,
506
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.599
that's what it's it's Martin. And they bought and they're
507
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.680
like the guy told me, like, I'm shocked that you
508
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.640
didn't take that back and like reprice. I'm like, no,
509
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.839
I price. I'd be mad if I was you and
510
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.359
I and you you did that, I would be mad.
511
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.880
And they were very you know, they're like, well, that's51200:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.920
really refreshing that you honored that price, you know. And51300:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.279
I'm like, hey, you've got it. You got a nice card,51400:27:47.359 --> 00:27:51.880
a nice story to go along exactly, and that stuff51500:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.480
goes a long way, you know what I mean. It's51600:27:54.519 --> 00:27:58.519
more than just even in the moment. So if I51700:27:58.599 --> 00:28:00.480
price it and you get a d a lot that51800:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.720
you know, so you know, good for you, you know, and51900:28:04.759 --> 00:28:09.319
I'm getting older, so that's more likely to happen now Lauren,52000:28:09.640 --> 00:28:12.720
I tell people that look in that box because they52100:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.200
might have made a few other you know good.52200:28:15.599 --> 00:28:17.599
Yeah, that's when you pull the box back and you're like,52300:28:17.640 --> 00:28:18.839
I got to go through it again.52400:28:20.200 --> 00:28:24.039
That's what I think. Really do that, Lauren, with with52500:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.119
those type of boxes, it is what it is. And52600:28:27.759 --> 00:28:29.839
you know, and here's my thing. That's why it's called52700:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.279
a bargain getting a bargain, right, and so I leave52800:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.079
it as be, you know, as being and we know,52900:28:36.559 --> 00:28:39.799
you know, looking like someone like Sam Darnold. Right, here's53000:28:39.799 --> 00:28:41.799
a hot rookie when he first came in the league,53100:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.559
then he became a journeyman five different teams, was in53200:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.200
the bargain box. Now now he's the hot and he's53300:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.440
probably he's I think Seattle's gonna win the Super Bowl,53400:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.960
so he's gonna have n corningback. So so he there's53500:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.440
a you know, that happens all the time, more often53600:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.160
than we think it does. Right, Baker Mayfield went from53700:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.160
you know, pehouse to the outhouse back to the pehouse.53800:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.519
Now was somewhere in between. And I know those the53900:29:09.599 --> 00:29:13.720
two football guys, but that happens in other sports as well.54000:29:13.839 --> 00:29:18.079
So if someone finds someone that's on the uptick, and54100:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.680
I priced it when they were on the downtick. You54200:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.400
did your home, you know, you did your diligence, you54300:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.839
went through the box and found it and again to54400:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.359
the Victor's Gold to sport. So I always honor those54500:29:29.400 --> 00:29:33.119
prices to sometimes people surprised, and I've had to happen54600:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.839
more than once. Maybe not a sixty dollars card for54700:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.440
five bucks, but I've had people tell me, hey, this54800:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.799
is mark the buck, it's twenty bucks. Like okay, you54900:29:41.839 --> 00:29:43.680
know you can give me a dollar, you give me55000:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.319
twenty bucks. Whatever makes you feel better. You know, usually55100:29:47.319 --> 00:29:52.279
they can, but you know, so that's just how that's55200:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.960
my sort of m O. If you will there, you know,55300:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.440
we'll kind of close out the dealer segment if you will.55400:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.559
You know, you mentioned like you go with your your55500:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.039
your RV trying to show. Sometimes you mentioned like sometimes55600:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.799
having to fly and set up. I always always intrigued55700:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.279
by the logistics of that. I've never I've never set55800:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.279
up at a show where I've flown to the show.55900:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.440
Now I've flown to shows and I'm just there right56000:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.759
as a consumer. How do you do that? Is everything56100:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.200
on the plane with you? Do you ship. How do56200:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.119
you what are the logistics in the shows where that's how.56300:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.759
You Yeah, when we fly, we we do not check bags.56400:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.480
We don't like checking bags when we travel anyway. So56500:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.200
it gets a little hairy when you know we're trying56600:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.599
to pack, you know, and all we have is you know,56700:30:43.920 --> 00:30:46.759
a carry on each and a personal item and we56800:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.759
have a card case on wheels and you know, this56900:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.880
last show, Brian had to bring his sion case on57000:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.000
wheels and that was his carry on, and then we57100:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.079
had another one that I was carrying by hand, and57200:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.359
it was it was tough. We were I asked to57300:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.039
head its on. I'm like, what are we gonna do?57400:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.319
Because I can he can shove most of his stuff57500:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.519
into a backpack and I'm like I can't because he's bald,57600:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.519
so like he doesn't need a hair brush. If he does,57700:31:11.559 --> 00:31:16.000
he borrows mine. I need things like that, And so57800:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.759
I was like, I'm gonna need a suitcase. Like we57900:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.079
can make this work, but like, heads up, you know,58000:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.759
I can't shove everything into like, you know, a grocery58100:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.720
bag and be good to go. And we made it work.58200:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.720
We we keep everything with us though we don't check bags.58300:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.759
We keep it with us, and it's just the cards. Basically,58400:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.839
we don't He had some small signs made that we58500:31:37.839 --> 00:31:39.720
were putting up that we could like, you know, the58600:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.119
retractable ones, so sometimes we'll bring those, but we did58700:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.559
not have room for those this time. But he brings58800:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.680
all the cards stuff, and then I try to pack58900:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.039
things that you know will come in handy. I have59000:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.759
like a little kid that's like, this will come in handy.59100:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.680
We might not need it, but it's better if we do,59200:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.599
you know, pens, sleeves, cars or post its, different things59300:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.400
like that pilin all because we're getting old hand sanitizer,59400:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.240
like little things like that that are like his head's59500:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.440
on prices and cards and where are the cards and59600:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.440
what cards or whatever, And so I get to do59700:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.960
kind of like the the backup stuff of like, well,59800:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.000
this is gonna probably be important, so you're gonna be59900:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.720
panicking in the moment and I'll be able to just60000:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.200
hand you, you know, the pen when you're looking for one.60100:32:24.400 --> 00:32:26.440
So we just kind of like, you know, we just60200:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.400
kind of meet in the middle on the needs and he,60300:32:28.720 --> 00:32:30.440
you know, I try to let him focus. He does60400:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.839
not like flying, so he gets really stressed on the plane.60500:32:33.240 --> 00:32:35.680
So I try to also do things to like ease60600:32:35.720 --> 00:32:40.240
that tension. But it's not for us. It's it's not60700:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.559
too too bad. We you know, we've kind of got60800:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.839
it down to science. It gets a little tough when60900:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.240
like we start opening product, like if we had a61000:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.160
long day, but we had a good day. So we're61100:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.960
leaving and we walk by and there's some wax on61200:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.599
the way out the door and we're like, yeah, let's61300:32:54.599 --> 00:32:56.920
just open you know this tonight. But then the next61400:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.240
night it's the same thing, and then we have to61500:32:59.279 --> 00:33:04.880
buy you know, a row, you know, a box and like, okay,61600:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.160
well we got it now, but will it fit on61700:33:07.200 --> 00:33:11.279
the way home? And somehow we always manage. But yeah,61800:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.839
the camp is nice because Brian has every you know,61900:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.640
we have what we need to get things done, and62000:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.839
you know, we can still do eBay and stuff. So62100:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.960
that's nice because it's not as like, oh I forgot this,62200:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.039
I can't go like we can just run back to62300:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.680
the camper if you know, we need something, or we62400:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.000
need extra or if we don't want to have that62500:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.480
on us. But yeah, it's really the flying is it's62600:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.200
what we did this last time, and it was easy62700:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.680
because we were in and out with the camper. It's like,62800:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.559
you know, we have it's not the end of the journey.62900:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.319
You know, we're not in and out because we like63000:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.359
have had a journey. We got there. We're doing this63100:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.960
and then we have to keep going on. So but yeah,63200:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.839
flying it's not too bad for us. We just kind63300:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.759
of keep it light. We keep it you know, we63400:33:52.799 --> 00:33:56.319
try to stay focused and hopefully we're leaving with more63500:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.440
than you know, we came with. And luckily that was63600:33:59.480 --> 00:34:00.759
the case such time.63700:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.960
Yeah, let me tell you about town. You get my agent.63800:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.279
I take it preemptively. I don't wait till I need it.63900:34:08.320 --> 00:34:11.440
I'm doing it like ahead of ahead of time. You64000:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.519
always amazing I always amazing me too long because I64100:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.480
talk to dealers, and I've talked to some and you notice,64200:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.039
you know that we'll say, hey, I ship it ahead,64300:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.559
like I'll ship some of my inventory. Some might. I64400:34:23.639 --> 00:34:26.559
might have it on some of the bigger items, bigger64500:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.599
money items on my carry on, but I have a64600:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.360
lot more stuff. But I'll ship it to the venue64700:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.079
or to someone in that town. And man, that would64800:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.880
make me so nervous not to we're shipping it to64900:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.639
but just that if it gets lost and you hear65000:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.800
horror stories now right that you know, whether it be65100:34:43.800 --> 00:34:48.039
a FedEx driver or you postal service workers steal and65200:34:48.119 --> 00:34:51.519
not even stealing, but it just gets lost or you know,65300:34:51.840 --> 00:34:56.920
truck explodes, and like inventory, and I know there's insurance,65400:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.519
I have it, but it's like any insurance, you never65500:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.639
want to u and if you ever had to file acclaim,65600:35:03.079 --> 00:35:05.599
you know, insurance companies don't always just say hey, how65700:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.239
much do we owe you? Well, here's a check filled65800:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.599
in yourself, right, They're going to negotiate like, well, we65900:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.840
you know, we think this was valued at that and66000:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.079
you're gonna say, no, it's a PSA eight and that's66100:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.840
what they go, well, we looked it up, you know,66200:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.280
and that sort of thing. So you never you hope66300:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.719
it never comes to that. And so I shipping I66400:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.840
would make me very nervous, but people do it and66500:35:31.880 --> 00:35:35.199
they're like when I asked them, like, are you nervous66600:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.639
when you do that? And they're like, you're done, well right,66700:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.039
I'm nervous, but we've got to do it right and66800:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.559
it's home. Nothing ever happens. But you know, even like66900:35:44.199 --> 00:35:50.639
you see I'm sending people's very expensive cards to Boker Retone, Florida,67000:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.760
and I'm nervous until I get that, you know, notification67100:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.119
that arrives safely, and then I'm nervous when they're graded67200:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.599
and they're on their way back time. Right, you know,67300:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.760
shipping is what it is, right. We We've heard some67400:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.119
of the things that can happen, and you just hope67500:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.239
it's you. Hope it's somebody. Well, you hope it never happens,67600:36:11.239 --> 00:36:13.519
and then you hope when it does it's not not you.67700:36:13.880 --> 00:36:18.320
So I always when I when I talk to people67800:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.800
to Nashville, and I like, you know, they got twenty67900:36:20.920 --> 00:36:25.320
showcases and you know, half of them like drove and68000:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.679
then the other half's like, I'm like did you drive68100:36:27.719 --> 00:36:28.400
with all this stuff?68200:36:28.480 --> 00:36:28.519
No?68300:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.320
I flew them like how'd you get? I shipped it in?68400:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.000
And he smokes, man, that's your braver than me, you know.68500:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.000
So you know, but I love those sort of the68600:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.800
stories behind the stories like how do how does some68700:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.840
work here? And and then they got to ship it68800:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.880
back to the home too, right, you know, it's not.68900:36:47.119 --> 00:36:48.960
I couldn't do it. I couldn't endure that.69000:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.880
You've got to be nervous again. You gotta be nervous69100:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.039
twice when you're when you're shipping to uh and fro69200:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.559
so uh, God bless them and uh you know, I69300:36:58.679 --> 00:37:03.280
hope obviously no bad stories there. But you know I69400:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.599
had the brothers from Vegas on that are dealers and69500:37:07.639 --> 00:37:12.000
they told me one year their luggage, you know, not69600:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.000
their cards, but their luggage got lost, so they had69700:37:15.039 --> 00:37:18.599
no clothes for a day. You know, imagine that's cards, right,69800:37:18.679 --> 00:37:20.599
you know what I mean. So if you get checking out,69900:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.559
hope you enjoyed part one of our conversation with Lauren there.70000:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.719
We will continue next Friday with part two. And you know,70100:37:29.800 --> 00:37:33.119
since I've done these two part episodes, it's made the70200:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.480
episode shorter, which are more consumable. I hope you are70300:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.599
finding that to your satisfaction. I also try to make70400:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.679
it where if you happen to listen to a part70500:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.360
two first, that you can still go back and listen70600:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.639
to part one and not be kind of discombobbling to70700:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.719
kind of all still flow. So next week Lauren returns70800:37:56.599 --> 00:38:01.119
for more great hobby conversation and you join us. So70900:38:01.199 --> 00:38:03.400
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