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Sports Guardations hobby is the people Wheely News and interviews.
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It's yon number one soul. Sports Gardations hobby is the
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people sports Guardation. What is up, everybody? Welcome to episode
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three seventy six of Sports Cardination podcast. Lauren Rizzo Schaeffer
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is back in the house today for part two of
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our conversation. And I always love having Lauren on. She's
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just a sweet person. And you know, we talk about
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good people in the hobby, right she checks all those
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boxes and then some of them we obviously have a
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lot of in common. Crocheting is not one of them,
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but setting up as shows as a dealer, and we
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talked a little bit about that in episode one, so
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or you know, this week's episode part one. So Lauren
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is back, and try to have her on, you know,
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at least once a year, if not more than that.
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So with that being said, let's start the show, all right,
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Let's get into another topic. And I know I ask
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you this kind of every time you're on, because I
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value your You're in the trenches, so to speak, as
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a dealer, as a consumer, as a content creator, you know,
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as a woman in the hobby, you know where you
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know here, as we start twenty twenty six, have we
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made enough strides? Are things going in the right direction
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or is there room? There's always room for improvement. I
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don't want to say like, oh, everything's great, We're good,
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but I guess, is that trajectory or at that pace
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fast enough to ask?
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I mean, I think I think, like you said, it's
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never enough. It's probably never fast enough. It's probably never
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you know, it's I mean, not to be a defeatist,
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but yeah, I think it's I think there's just always
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a room for improvement. And I don't think that that's
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a bad thing. I don't think that's a defeat attitude.
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I think it's just, you know, anything that deviates from
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the status quo is difficult. Change is hard for people.
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And and that's not to say that, you know, women
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collecting cards is you know, a game changer for women's
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rights or anything. But you know, sports cards are historically
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a mail space. It's just a fact, and women haven't
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always been welcome. And there have been many pioneers who
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have stuck with it because they loved it from you know,
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the start, when they were kids. And you know, I
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think there will there will always be room for improvement.
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But I definitely think that it's worth saying that there
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have been great strides made in the life last few years. Personally,
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I think, I mean, I see a lot more young girls. Actually,
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at this last Dallas show, there's a young girl. She
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was probably like twelve ish and she was doing her
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own deals with Brian and they were not like, you know,
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ten nine dollars cards. It was like twelve hundred dollars
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card deals. And she did it all on her own.
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You know, she did negotiate, she did the back and forth.
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She actually came to our table on the first deal
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like seven times before they got it done. And it
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was great. It was great to see how comfortable she
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was running around a card show and felt safe and
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felt confident. That was a big thing. She was confident
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and she was just very comfortable in the environment. And
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I think that was probably that was one of my
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favorite parts of this last show because it did just
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feel good to see a young girl who is very
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comfortable in this space. And you know, everybody has, you know,
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lessons to learn and things that are difficult. You know,
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you make a mistake, you buy the wrong card, whatever,
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But she she was you know, only like eleven or twelve,
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and she's doing deals and she's you know, shaking hands
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and she's she's getting it done, and she you know,
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and Brian wasn't going to give her a discount because
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she's a kid.
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You know.
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They negotiated on the price, and they like, you know,
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this is where I'm coming from, this is where you're
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coming from. How are we going to meet in the middle.
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And I thought that was just a great example of
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the space that's been built and created by women who
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have been doing work and making that effort for decades
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and it's culminating, it's starting to really show, I think,
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and I think that that's great. Yeah, you know, like
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you said, there's always room for improvement, but like the
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strides that have been made and the girls that are
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standing on the shoulders of women that came before them,
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it's it's great. We're in a great trajectory, I think.
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that continues, and I hope I see more worlds like
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that and and women because I know, even myself, I'm
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not always comfortable or confident in you know, in a
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room or doing a deal. And I hope that there
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are more women who you know, enter the space, you know,
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at their own pace, but feel comfortable and feel confident,
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and you know they're doing their part. So it is
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up to you know, the people that they're interacting with
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to kind of take the baton at some point, and
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some will and some won't. But I think it's, you know,
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it credit to the entire space that people are realizing, oh,
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I didn't know that this was a burden and that
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this is a hurdle and we can make this best
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better for everybody. And I think that that's great. I
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think I think we're on a good trajectory. And yeah,
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I think I think it's great.
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Yeah, even here on a micro level, if you will,
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here in central New York, uh, Lauren, I'm seeing a
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lot more, like you said, female collectors, female dealers, even
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even even if I've even seen a lot of families
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that shows including a spouse or a significant other that's female,
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maybe not in the hobby but supporting the kids and
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the dead or whoever. But I'm seeing, like you said,
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a lot more female collectors who are active. And I think, again,
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I don't want to pay with a broad brush, but
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I think I think the hobby is more accepting of
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that than ever before. Now again, we've got room to
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grow and improve and be better. But I think it's easier,
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and you can tell me if you agree to. I
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think it's easier to be a woman collector today than two,
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three years ago or even even further back. And that
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doesn't mean there isn't some people who are resistant or
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not as accepting, but there's a lot less of that
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going on than before, and it's easier today. Like you said,
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a lot of that's being paid by women who've done
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it for a long time and so but I enjoy
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seeing that. And you know, I've been I've told the
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story on my on this podcast before. I've been set
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up near a dealer who's maybe not as encouraged by
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it as me, and I've had those conversations with him,
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like what's your issue? You know, to be blunt honest
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with you, Like, well, well, when whatever they say it
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doesn't make any sense, and I just write a like, hey, man,
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what difference does it make? You know? Male female color?
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Like it should like this is twenty where we're in
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the two thousands, man, Like this is like a really
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archaic taken stance. I'm like well, it's just's the way
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it's always been. That's not the answer, man, Just that's
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the way that's always been gets businesses, uh, you know
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closed and and and things go bad, so like you can't.
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That's a cop out answer whenever I hear that. But
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I think again, I think today we're in a there's
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a lot less of that. It's the way it's always
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been than than before, but it's still it's still around
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enough where this is a a conversation point that I
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have and uh, you know, hopefully that continues to said,
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that trajectory continues in the right right direction. I think
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it will. I don't think it's gonna I don't want
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to jink stuff. I don't think it's gonna get worse.
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It just has to get even better as time goes on.
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And and uh, you know, people figured the light bulbs
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go on with certain certain other folks. If if you will,
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let's let's bring that to cardboard. You know, I think
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we've seen big strides in in you know, the female
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athletes on cardboard, whether that be w n b A, wrestling,
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even other sports, uh, soccer, the list goes on and on.
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Would you agree there? And if not, you know, in
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kind of a two prong question, what can be done
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more maybe in that sort of areas to even make
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that area better.
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That's a great question, I think. I think we are
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in a great space with cards and you know what's produced.
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I'm trying to think to how to how to get
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to this. So obviously, Caitlin Clark was a huge deal
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twenty twenty four, twenty five, and I'll be honest, I
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at the time when it was really booming, I felt
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it was unsustainable her prices. I didn't think there was
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and it wasn't a reflection of her. I just think
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no matter what she did, she was never gonna live
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up to the value of some of her cards. And
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that's not a reflection of her. I think that's just
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a reflection of like how insane the market was. And
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that's not to say that women's cards won't appreciate. It's
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just the crazy cash grabs that were having for it
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reminded me a lot of like Luca in twenty twenty
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and like his like base, you know, like prisms and
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prism silvers were like there were tons of them, but
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they were selling for crazy money and and and people
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were selling them to flip them. And I saw a
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lot of parallels to Caitlin Clark that a lot of
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collectors were not collecting them because they liked her game,
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or they liked watching her, or they liked the sport.
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They saw these quick cash and the product prices, you know,
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the retail prices that reflected it. It priced you know,
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some people out, which is unfortunate. One of my friends,
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he said, you know what, everybody else can buy into
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the brakes and buy the boxes, and I will be
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trolling eBay for my singles, very happily, joyously. I'll be
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doing that. And you know, people had to kind of
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adjust how they were, you know, collecting because of the
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influx of dollar signs. So I I was worried that
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with the and I was hoping I'd be wrong, you know,
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and I might still be, who knows, But I was
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worried that with the unsustainability of her market, that it
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would then cause people to turn on women's carves and
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not want to support them and not want to be
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you know, I mean they already were not always kind
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people coming into that space. We're not kind to you know,
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traditional you know, like say it, we'll say wnb able
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to stay on, Caitlin Clark. They weren't always kind to
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traditional WNBA collectors and that was hard to see. But
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you know, they're seeing, you know, kind of a bell
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curve of Okay, it's really intense, it's really you know,
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really high price. There's a lot of emotions, there's a
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lot of energy, and now it's kind of starting to
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mellow back out to where people are like, okay, it
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will it will self regulate back to the way it was,
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and hopefully there will be more people who you know,
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caught the wave and enjoyed it and want to stay
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on it with us. But hopefully all the people who
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were like angry and upset and you know, trying to
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make a buck off of it are going to weed
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themselves out. So that was that was a big thing.
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I think that you know, we kind of had to
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push through and I think I think I don't think
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we're on the other side of that, you know, quite yet,
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But I do think that the positive aspects are definitely
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coming to the service and have been maybe for like
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the last six months, in that there are more collectors,
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there's more knowledge, there's more care, there's more data because
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it's been you know, there's been more sales of things
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other than just Caitlin Clark because there had to be,
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you know. So I think that that's been for all
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the warts and bumps, it has been good and I
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hope that it will continue to be good. So we'll see.
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which i've you know, we've only kind of recently really
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gotten into it, it's been really interesting because women actually,
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you know, it depends it's not like male female. A
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lot of the superstars, depending on where they're at and
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what they're like, they're they're like neck and neck, you know,
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like some of those superstars will sell the same and
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that's really interesting to see. And I think that's gonna
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be something for people to look out for, especially because
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Panini lost the license last year and now it's on
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the Top, so you know, Panini products are going to
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become more scarce, but Tops products might be more in demand.
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interesting time for women's sports and collecting women's sports. So
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we were at Dallas for I think mostly wrestling, they
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were like, is it too late to get into wrestling.
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they're trying to calculate is this going to be an
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investmental regret or is this an invent that i'll like,
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you know, feel good about. And we said, like, no,
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it's not too late, because it's if it's something you're
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interested in it, it's something you enjoy. I think more
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people are going to be invested in it and you'll
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you know, and it's a great community and blah blah blah,
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all the reasons.
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But if you love it and enjoy it, that's not
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a question. Yeah, that's yeah.
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We had a hard time answering because we're like, well no,
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but you know, then trying to like put our hat
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on of like, okay, we're talking to a customer, you know,
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we're like, no, it's never too you know, and then
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we're like, you know, looking at it through a different lens.
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I think we're on an upward trajectory. And I think
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it's I think, you know, there's always growing pains in
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certain aspects, and I mean the hobby as a whole
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went through growing pains over the last decade, and I liked.
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I mean, I err on the side of optimism. I
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think overall, you know, we benefit from growth and change.
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So yeah, and you know the whole case. And I'm
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glad you mentioned her because and it's not her fault, right,
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but she like for people who don't know or not
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that you would think she's the only w NBA player
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the way she's that's all people talk about. And she's
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a great player. I'm not taking that away from her,
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but it's almost like a double edged sword, like she helps,
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she helps the hobby and hurts it. When I say hurt,
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I mean not her personal just the whole phenomenon where
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people don't give enough for the other of our contemporaries
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credit as well, and I think sometimes that hurts or
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we saw some of that stuff. I'm even on the
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court where people were resentful that she was getting a
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lot of shine or you know, people were just talking
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about her a lot, you know, and sort of making
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comments or being a little more physical with the fouls
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during during the games. And listen, she was, uh, you know,
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perfect with it. She didn't you know, she didn't I
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don't know how you want to word it, but she responded, accordingly,
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she didn't. You know, she just kept playing her game
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and promoted the sport she loved and the league that
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she was in. But sort of, you know, like you said,
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people saw dollar signs with her and that's why they
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came in. And you know, and that's not even just
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a women's sports thing. That that that's across the board.
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That's across the board. We saw a lot of that,
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especially in the COVID Crescendo year year and a half,
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with a lot of people who aren't even cut, like
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just from the sneaker industry, just said, hey, this is
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the big thing. I'll put my sneakers in the closet.
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Let's do this now. And and like you said, those
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people on teach their own. But when the smoke clears
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and the dust settles, right, people who really loved the
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cards and the sport will stick around and know that
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are just and asked what two lines running up and
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down through it will probably exit stage left. That all
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kind of shakes itself out. But you know, sometimes when
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there's an individual athlete on that sort of trajectory, you
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get that double edged sword. It's good, it's great, and
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it can be bad at the same time through no
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fault of in this case Caitlin Clark. She's just going
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out there trying to play basketball sports she loves like
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that's all secondary to her, all the business dealings and whatnot.
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So you know, and again you see, it's not a
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woman's sport thing, it's not a woman athlete thing. That's
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just that happens across the board in any hobby business.
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Whatever you want to put.
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You are listening to the Sports Cardination podcast. We'll be
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We back why to talk about a little bit about writing.
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You write as I do, and I think everyone thinks
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it's easy, and some days it's easier than others. Lord,
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but you know there's moments even with me where you know,
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I'll like, what do I want to talk about? What
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do I want to write about? And when I tell
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people that they're like, dude, you could talk about anything.
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How do you have a what writer's block? Like? You know,
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it's crazy.
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The problem I can talk about.
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Is that that and sometimes when you've written about so much,
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like you know, I don't try. I try. I'm guilty
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of doing that, but I try not to write about
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the same thing too often. Sometimes you got to revisit
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a topic. Kind of speak to that as as a
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writer in the hobby, hitting that sort of wall, how
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do you get past it and that sort of thing?
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Well, I actually I am working on getting past it.
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I have not written for collectibles on U s I
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in a couple of months, and that was not planned.
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It just I'll defend you here. I'll defend you here
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because I know I know exactly and the way you
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said it, what you're you're tone, he're sort of I
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think you're being a little too down on yourself. Sometimes
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that's what you need to do. Yeah, I've done that right.
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I'm going to take a break until I don't want
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to write about something. And again I don't want to.
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I want to speak for you here, I'm speaking for myself.
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I do want to write about something and feel like
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I'm just doing it because I have to do it.
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I have a deadline, so I really don't care. But
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here you go, here it is, you know. And so
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I've done that too, where I've like, hey, I'm gonna
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like put the notepad down, or I'm gonna put the lap,
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close the laptop because I'm not feeling this. And then
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when you sort of like do that, at least in
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my case, it can tell me that when you go
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away from something, then that light bulb may go on
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at some point. Might not be the next day, it
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might not be the next week, it may be somewhere.
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And then when that light bulb comes on, and then
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you open that laptop, you open that notepad packed up,
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and I think there's not wrong with taking a break.
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And I've even said that with the hobby sometimes, you know,
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people like message me John like I'm burnt out from
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the hobby, like don't do anything for the hobby for
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two weeks and then until you miss it. If you
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miss it, and then you know, I think it's like
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that we're writing too. So I wanted I know you
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were in certain I just kind of wanted to kind
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of stick up for you. You tell me like, no,
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that's your huge, John, But you're right, I mean.
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I appreciate it. I do appreciate that, yeah, because it's
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it's a bummer because I do like it, and I
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really like the team and and I really enjoyed doing it.
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But just uh, the last maybe I guess, gosh, almost
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eighteen months have just been kind of a There's been
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a lot. There's been a lot, you know, for me
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to process, and I just I was this something had
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to give, and you know, I was just not my
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brain was just not operating ut the way I wanted
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it to. And I also didn't feel like I was
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producing it was it was becoming like actually hard, like
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like it was taking a toll on me. I was
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like anxious and like not thinking straight and like overwhelming myself.
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And then I was constantly thinking about topics and this
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and that, and so I just kind of unintentional only
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took a break. And so I'm hoping that I will,
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you know, it'll come back to me, because sometimes you
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do just gotta sit down and force yourself. Fortunately, I'm
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you know, I get to do it because I like
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it and it's not my livelihood. So I've you know,
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just kind of been trying to to take my time
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to get back to a clear headspace where I feel
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like I can process better. And and I you know,
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I've never stopped loving cards and collecting and the community
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and stuff, but I've had to approach it differently over
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the last year. Not for any like specific reason, like
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there's no there's no like gossip or drama. It's just,
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you know, things change, times changed, life happens, and.
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Well, here the other thing, here's the other thing. I'm
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gonna stuck up for you again. Yeah, we we just
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talked about your setting up at shows. You're doing shows,
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you're going to shows. You have a life outside of cars,
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at least, I hope so you as do I write
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that can be tricky, and I think again, I don't
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know what percentage you want to put on it. Most
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writers are writing about a subject that they're not necessarily
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involved in. They're just covering it. We're writing in our cases,
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you know, we're writing about and we're active in it too.
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So it's not like we're just writers and that's our job,
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you know, forty hours a week, you know, we have
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we have regular livelihoods, and then we have the hobby
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and then we're writing about the hobby. So I think
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that's a factor in it too. Like if someone said, John,
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you're you're going to stay a writer, but you're going
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to cover like Wall Street. It might even be easier,
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not that I know. I do. I know enough where
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I could probably pass. But I can do it because
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I'm not doing Wall Street thirty eight hours, you know,
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on top of that. But when you're in the hobby
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already and then you're covering it as a right, you know,
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you a lot of people would think, well, that's easy,
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but it's not as easy as people will probably think.
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And you know, and you do it long enough. You know,
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again there's plenty of topics, but you do it long
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enough and you cover a good majority of them. And
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one thing I I and again I'm guilty of it,
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but I try not to like do something i've I've
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done right, or if I do, I I like to
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have it be years before I touch on it again.
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That way, you sort, it's almost like an update. I
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don't want to three months later talk about something I
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talked about three months ago. Can you do it? Sure
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you can do it, but I like to give it
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a little more breathing. It's like a whine let it
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breathe a little bit. It's too easy, I think to
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do that. So I think that's you know, I think
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that's the case too right when it's I think sometimes
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it's easier to be a writer in a space you're
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not directly involved in then in one that you are,
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because I think then you're a little too critical right
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of yourself, like that, I am I being too harsh?
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Am I not being harsh enough? Am I giving someone
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a pass? Am I giving someone a past too much?
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Because maybe they're a nice person? And you know, so
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it's always a catch twenty two when you're when if
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you're not involved in you're just covering something because it's
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sort of that job. You can just cover it and
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it's like, hey, here's how I see it. This person
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did this or this company did that, and this is
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what happened. Almost becomes like a news report and you
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let the chips flow. When you're in it yourself, it
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changes the whole dynamic of the story. It makes it
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to me, makes it even harder, and so not just
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time wise, but like, hey, I don't want to be
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too soft here, but I also don't want to be
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too harsh here. And then if I go in the
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middle almost say you're vanilla. So now you can't win
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for losing. So sometimes it's it's it's gonna be tricky.
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So and again you know this, you're right about someone's
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got you know, you get five people like, oh, man,
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I love that piece, and you get two people like
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that sucked right. Well, who's who's right to two people?
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Or the file right? You know? So it is what
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it is. I try to be true to to to myself.
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I don't want to necessarily throw anyone under the bus
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and back over them. But I also don't want to
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sugarcoat it where someone says, man, that you softball piece
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or fluffy. And sometimes it's hard. Sometimes it's hard, and
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it's there's times I've written something more and I'm sure
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you where I thought I was harsh enough, if you will,
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or accurate enough, and someone will message me like, man,
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you let them off the hook or you know whatever
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the topic, you know, without mentioning the names, and I'm like,
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I thought I was a little rough on them to
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tell you, you know. So again, you can't please everybody,
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especially when it comes to writing. You do the best
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you can, but it can get tricky, and I get
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it where you hit that wall and you're like, I
474
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.279
don't know, I don't well, I just don't want to
475
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.960
do it right now, just not feeling it right. That
476
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could be writing, could be a lot of other They
477
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.400
can be hobby. You know, I've had week and I
478
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.920
call it like weekends, sabbaticals. Well, I'm not touching a card,
479
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.960
I'm not looking at a card, I'm not turning the
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microphone on. I'm not watching anyone else's stuff. I'm not
481
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.039
listening to it. I'm not mad, I'm not you know,
482
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.799
I just need I need to decompress. I need a break,
483
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.880
and I think I think sometimes Louren, we don't do
484
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.359
enough of that, and that's where the burnout. That's where
485
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:46.000
burnout sets in. And then you risk like, hey, I
486
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:49.440
just don't enjoy this anymore. I'm leaving. And I don't
487
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.240
want to see anyone leave something, at least if they
488
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.799
enjoyed it, at least at one point. Sometimes, you know,
489
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.839
I know it's cliche, but sometimes absence makes the heart
490
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:01.880
grow fonder, right, It's true the times where I've taken
491
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.319
two weeks and I've pre recorded stuff and loaded it
492
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.720
in the hopper and it's done I may not miss
493
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.920
the show, but for two weeks, I haven't really done
494
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.000
anything hobby wise, and I miss it. And I know
495
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.279
that's how I know. I'm passionate love it. I it
496
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.839
was a nice two weeks off, butever ready to get
497
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.880
back on the horse and ride again. So so you know,
498
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.640
and there's nothing wrong with that, And for some people
499
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.960
it might be a couple of days. For someone else,
500
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.920
it might be a week. I've had people tell them
501
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.359
write me Lauren and say, I took a year break,
502
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.000
and like, I'm mat I knew I was coming back.
503
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.319
I didn't quit, I just needed to. Like I didn't
504
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:41.359
put a time frame on it, I just needed I
505
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:43.720
knew a break. You wound up being the year and
506
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.559
guess why here I am. And I when I get though,
507
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.799
if I get a message like that, I'm like, do
508
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.119
you you know? Whatever works for you? There's no template here,
509
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:56.000
it's whatever works for you. You know, we all have
510
00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:00.240
different personalities and quirks. That's that's the beauty of it.
511
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.640
And so there's no wrong answering. And I think that51200:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.960
applies to writing as well. And you'll know, you know,51300:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.319
for you, I don't want to again. I'm speaking to you.51400:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.119
I don't speak for you when that time is right51500:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.000
or that light bulb goes on you, you know. And51600:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.160
I think that's where the best writing actually comes from.51700:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.720
If you ask me, is when you you enjoy doing51800:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.319
it right, It's it's when you feel like you're going51900:29:24.359 --> 00:29:26.359
through the motions. I don't think you're going to be52000:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.680
at your best. That's sports, right. You hear athletes say52100:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.359
I should you know. I've read a book athletes like,52200:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.920
and they in their own autobiography said, listen, I probably52300:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.039
should have retired two years before I did. I went52400:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.920
through the motions. I wasn't enjoyed, but I felt pressure,52500:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.319
whether it be from family or fans, or even from52600:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.359
a team organization as well, Hey we need you, Hey52700:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.759
give us another year. You know some you know, you52800:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.400
hear those kinds of stories. So and then anytime you52900:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.759
go through the motions, I don't think you're going to53000:29:58.880 --> 00:30:02.079
be at your best. I mean, there's some people might53100:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.759
be above that, and God bless them, but I know53200:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.799
with me that's not the case. But you know, you'll know,53300:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.519
you'll know, uh, you know, And again, you're doing so53400:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.880
many other things right. I think that's a factor too.53500:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.960
I think it. I won't say be worse, but be different.53600:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.880
If you weren't and you were at that point, you53700:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.880
know what I mean. I think you know there's almost53800:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.119
there's only so many hours in the day. There's only53900:30:27.359 --> 00:30:32.119
so many slices of pie. Got it? You know, wherever wherever,54000:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.079
you're passionized in the moment or in the day, the week,54100:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.839
the month, the year. No one I always tell people no,54200:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.400
you know, I always get questions fla like, someone will54300:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.319
mess with me, what do you think I should do?54400:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.319
Or what would you do? And I'm like, no, no54500:30:46.359 --> 00:30:49.599
one knows you better than you. Yeh know who you are.54600:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.599
We may be friends and they know a little about54700:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.839
you more than someone else. But at the end of54800:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.000
the day, no one knows you better than you. So54900:30:58.079 --> 00:31:01.279
I can give you an all would be was an opinion.55000:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.000
But at the end of the day, you're your own55100:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.480
CEO of yourself. You have to make the best that55200:31:07.640 --> 00:31:09.920
you know. If you want to say, I'm a business55300:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.400
and I'm the CEO of me, You've got to make55400:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.480
the best business decision for you, right who knows yourself55500:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.599
better than you? You can ask my no, someone can55600:31:19.640 --> 00:31:23.160
ask my opinion, but it's still got to be their55700:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.920
decision and what they're comfortable with, and I think that's,55800:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.359
you know, that's how you should approach it. But you'll55900:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.000
figure it out. You're very smart and intelligent, and probably56000:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.759
more so than I am. You should be, you know.56100:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.240
But as always, you know, I appreciate you coming on.56200:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.480
I enjoyed talking to you, whether it's this way, off56300:31:45.519 --> 00:31:50.720
the air, in person, hobby hotline, and you know, you're56400:31:50.759 --> 00:31:54.319
awesome and thanks for chopping up with it. I always56500:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.119
give the guests well where people can see what you're doing,56600:31:58.759 --> 00:32:02.200
you know, whether it be website, social media, take your56700:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.880
time to get wherever you want to steer anybody, I'll56800:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.240
go ahead and give that stuff out well right.56900:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.880
Now, because as you were talking, I was thinking, like, yeah,57000:32:09.920 --> 00:32:12.279
I actually stitched a lot of cards last year and57100:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.559
didn't post any of them. I've just been doing it57200:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.359
because I can again and I like it again, and57300:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.920
that's how this writing thing has been going. So my57400:32:21.000 --> 00:32:25.680
main thing is my Instagram at laurenoes here. I'm not57500:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.960
posting on there a lot.57600:32:27.039 --> 00:32:27.359
I'm not.57700:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.480
I'm coming on here and there, but more so now57800:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.880
I was kind of cold Turkey for a minute, so57900:32:33.440 --> 00:32:35.319
I am there if you want to check me out,58000:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.720
But right now I'm just kind of I'm still focusing58100:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.720
on like the tangible aspect of what I like and58200:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.039
how to spend my time, and trying to get back58300:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.720
into writing again too. So but if you do need58400:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.079
to fne me or want to buy me, Instagram is58500:32:51.119 --> 00:32:52.559
probably the best place to start.58600:32:52.799 --> 00:32:56.359
So there you go. Yeah, and incredible with the stitching.58700:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.240
I have seen some of the ones you've posted of.58800:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.599
I can't barely tie my shoe. Uh, I wouldn't even58900:33:04.680 --> 00:33:06.200
know where to starting.59000:33:06.240 --> 00:33:06.359
Now.59100:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.920
My grandma, you know, rust her, so she was quite59200:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.480
a crochet, not not with cards. But uh, I wonder59300:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.480
if she, like, if she could have done that, if59400:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.039
if showed her, like if I showed her what you59500:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.359
were doing. I wonder if she could have done it59600:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.279
in her own I would have just had her made59700:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.559
me stuff instead I got like I still. Instead I59800:33:27.559 --> 00:33:31.400
got blankets which are beautiful, and doors cloths and end59900:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.400
table covers. So but uh, I'm kidding, but she probably60000:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.160
she might have been able to do it. But you do,60100:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.319
debian said, you do incredible work there, and sometimes right60200:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.000
you put yourself, you pour yourself into something else, and60300:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.160
then maybe you'll miss it and get back to when60400:33:48.200 --> 00:33:51.559
you feel the time is right. And I rather you're60500:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.359
an incredible writer, so I rather you write when you're60600:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.359
feeling it, then then when you're not. We can say60700:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.400
that again, whether that's an athlete, a writer, whatever, content creator,60800:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.880
doesn't matter, right, you do your best work when you're60900:34:05.160 --> 00:34:09.280
when you're really passionate feeling it. So nothing to apologize for.61000:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.960
And uh, you know, we'll see you again. So as61100:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.679
always a you know we're getting close to the national.61200:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.000
We didn't even touch on that, but uh, maybe we'll61300:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.239
have to do we'll have to do another episode closer,61400:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.960
whether the national kind of chopped at up. I love it,61500:34:27.159 --> 00:34:32.840
la So thanks lord. Like I said, always love having61600:34:33.360 --> 00:34:39.079
Lauren on the show. Very intelligent, right person and asset61700:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.400
to the hobby regardless male female does not matter. And61800:34:44.519 --> 00:34:48.519
it's something you know, I'm proud of that. Even as61900:34:48.559 --> 00:34:52.440
a seven year old kid, I had female young friends62000:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.679
at the time that kind of collected some cards and62100:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.559
or movie cards and that sort of thing. So it's62200:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.880
always sort of been the norm. If you will, I62300:35:03.920 --> 00:35:08.559
know that it's not predominant, but very important to me62400:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.920
to see that you know, more more of that. So62500:35:13.719 --> 00:35:18.000
and Lawrence leading the way if you will, so we'll62600:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.960
have her back sometime in the near future. But you know,62700:35:23.119 --> 00:35:24.960
like I said, have a lot in common with her62800:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.159
with being a show dealer. We're teammates on Hobby Hotline62900:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.159
and that sort of thing. So I hope you enjoyed63000:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.519
part two, and if you miss part one, just go63100:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.000
back one week and it's right there waiting for you.63200:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.400
All right, We're gonna get to wrapping up the episode63300:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.000
with some closing thoughts here.63400:35:45.000 --> 00:35:50.760
Thanks everybody, time for all the people Announcer of the week.63500:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.880
Hey, this is Jeremy with PST Sport cards platform that63600:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.760
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If you'd like to be the hobby is the people63900:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.119
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