WEBVTT
1
00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:07.040
Sports Guard Nations Hobbies, the People, Wheely News and Interviews.
2
00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:13.080
It's your number one soul sports gar Nations hobby is
3
00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:14.199
the people.
4
00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:21.440
Sports Guarnation. What is up, everybody?
5
00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:26.440
Welcome to episode three seventy one of Sports Cardination. My
6
00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:29.320
two guests today are good friends of mine, but that's
7
00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:33.039
not why. That's not the only reason they're on the show.
8
00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:37.359
It's been a bit u but they're the host of
9
00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:42.200
Nascard Radio, Logan Warden val Mars, and we're gonna talk
10
00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.600
a little bit. But they know the hobby besides racing,
11
00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:48.240
so we're gonna we're gonna chop up some hobby. We're
12
00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:52.799
gonna talk about their venture the Racing Card Hall of Fame.
13
00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:56.399
We've seen Ray Fonio and team do that with some
14
00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.679
of the other sports. Well, these guys are tackling the
15
00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:04.200
race seen Card Hall. Voting is open now. We'll give
16
00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.439
you the link during the show and it'll be in
17
00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.840
the show notes as well to go vote for your
18
00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:14.200
all time favorite racing cards to be inducted in the
19
00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.719
Racing Card Hall of Fame. So this is part one
20
00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:21.359
of two, as we usually do, and happy to be
21
00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:25.400
joined by Valen Logan and we have fun. You know,
22
00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:30.359
when we get together, we even forget there's microphones and recordings,
23
00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.840
and it's always fun. You never know to what might
24
00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:37.760
be said. So with that being said, let's get the
25
00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:42.319
show started. I sat down with Logan Ward and Val Mars,
26
00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.519
my friends from NASCAR Radio. We talked some Nascar, we
27
00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:51.079
talked some hobby, and we talked some Racing Card Hall
28
00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:54.840
of Fame again, as I do on the show. Folks,
29
00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:59.799
it is a two part series, so this is part one,
30
00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:03.879
but it's actually the later part of the conversation. But
31
00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:07.359
I wanted we wanted to put it first because it
32
00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.560
talks about something that's ongoing right now, which is the
33
00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:15.240
Racing Card Hall of Fame. The second class to be
34
00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:18.599
inductive voting is open now, so look for that in
35
00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:23.879
the show notes and they'll also talk about it during
36
00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:25.960
the interview as well.
37
00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:30.000
So enjoy going going back to Nascard Radio. You know,
38
00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.719
we are a niche show. We don't have the viewership
39
00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:36.520
numbers that the stick and ball sports have, But what
40
00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:41.039
I will say is we have a very very loyal audience.
41
00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:45.520
We love our viewers and our listeners, and we get
42
00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.520
a lot of interaction and many of them have become
43
00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:52.199
good friends of us. So from that aspect of the show,
44
00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.120
that's one of the parts that I really love.
45
00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:55.719
John's gonna touch on real quick.
46
00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:57.960
The you're talking about the mattingly and it was kind
47
00:02:58.000 --> 00:02:59.800
of a simpler time, you know, I was thinking of
48
00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:00.919
the tops of kind.
49
00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:01.240
Of making there.
50
00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:04.520
But you know what's going on right now with NASCAR.
51
00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.319
We like Logan was talking about having the counter zillage
52
00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.680
and he's gonna have your card twenty five, but the
53
00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:13.439
kind of muddy the water. He issued a Panini instant
54
00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.439
last year of him in twenty four. He has a
55
00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:18.719
like the first card in the print on demand with
56
00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:21.080
some parallel he was kind of holding him out, I
57
00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.240
guess for this year on the base it's kind of
58
00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.639
it's kind of confusing the nascars and that.
59
00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:28.000
Then we talked a little bit before we went on
60
00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:32.319
live and recorded. You even said with Panini incant that
61
00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:35.000
this two cards missed. It's supposed to be a seventy
62
00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.680
two card set. It's a seventy card set, and I
63
00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.840
think you said number two and number ten. If you're
64
00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.400
looking for number two and number ten, you're not gonna
65
00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.599
find them at this point. And listen, I don't want to.
66
00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.159
I don't want to drone on too much about it,
67
00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.800
but like I get things happened contractually or you can't
68
00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.639
come to it, like just put another number two and
69
00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:57.280
the number ten.
70
00:03:57.439 --> 00:03:59.719
Just take a different.
71
00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:03.080
Subject, different team however, whatever route you go. But they
72
00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.280
shouldn't be missing cards. That wasn't old ploy back in
73
00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.759
baseball card days to get people to buy more packs.
74
00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:12.080
We don't need to do that anymore. And this isn't
75
00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:16.600
even a pack issued set. This is a printed demand set.
76
00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:20.040
So just replace the two in the ten so people
77
00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.560
can have a complete set. And you know, especially if
78
00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.319
you go if some if that set gets handed down,
79
00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.240
not even so, but just you know, dad gives that,
80
00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.560
the son or grandpa gives that the grandson or granddaughter,
81
00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:33.879
and they're looking.
82
00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:37.439
At the set, not knowing any of the prior history.
83
00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:40.199
They're gonna be like, grandpa gave me a set that's
84
00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.120
not even complete.
85
00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.680
What did he do with two and ten? He's just a.
86
00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.040
Yeah, I totally agree with you, John.
87
00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:52.959
I don't know where the logic is, especially you know,
88
00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:56.279
in twenty twenty five not you know, missing numbers, and
89
00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.079
I think it's because it's in their in their system
90
00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.240
so it exists, but it doesn't. It is nothing was
91
00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:03.759
I don't know. I guess he can't add some there.
92
00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:07.079
But well, I said, man, I just make just make
93
00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.720
a replacement, tune a replacement.
94
00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:12.399
It's not it's not rocket science.
95
00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.079
Well this is gonna blow your mind because I didn't
96
00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.519
tell you this part. Well, they made an error on
97
00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:20.759
one of the cars and they printed it twice, so
98
00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:23.839
there's actually a variation on a card intink twenty five
99
00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:27.360
the Kyle Larson. They missed that the date was twenty
100
00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:29.759
twenty five and they put two thousand and five, and
101
00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.240
so they caught it. And so say the print one,
102
00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:34.519
say the print run was one hundred and twenty five.
103
00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.759
They sent you both of them. So so everybody, who
104
00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:39.839
will I think it was card number? You got two,
105
00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:41.560
you got the two thousand and five, and you got
106
00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:44.319
the one, but then there's no two and ten.
107
00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:48.040
So yeah, just make them like even after the fact,
108
00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.399
and like you know, put them up for sale where
109
00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.800
some people can have their sets to legitimately with no
110
00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.519
skip numbering, no missing numbers, and uh, you know, if
111
00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.519
someone don't want to buy them and they're happy with
112
00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.000
the seventy instead, is that's fine.
113
00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.959
Too, but at least give people the option to have a.
114
00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.759
Full numbered set, right and not because they're gonna be
115
00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.680
people who don't know the backstory and they'll be like,
116
00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.319
this is not complete. I could see arguments happening like,
117
00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.879
hey man, you mailed me this set, I'm missing two cards,
118
00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.040
Like you have those. You got to send them, you know,
119
00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.959
And it becomes a whole dilemma. Right then that person's
120
00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:27.560
gotta explained No, it's not missing two guards. They never
121
00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:29.000
made those. Well why not?
122
00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.879
I don't know. There is no good reason.
123
00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:35.560
Well, sure bring this one up too. But you know
124
00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:39.519
we're used to race, huse memorabilia, race hues, tires, race
125
00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.959
huge fires, all this stuff. But this year they introduced
126
00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.959
something in Dunrow stuvenirs watching garment. They got the hauler
127
00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.399
they bought off the NASCAR dot com website.
128
00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:52.839
Well, that never happens on the sports side.
129
00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:55.120
Well this is this is the first for NASCAR.
130
00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.920
Uh And so I think it's in Dunro's retail LOGI
131
00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.839
can keep me honest here. But we had Lucas on
132
00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:05.040
Panini doves watch it that we need.
133
00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.879
Now we need Logan's son Tyler to wear a racing
134
00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:13.839
game US shirt that says no no like merch shop
135
00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:15.480
patch cards.
136
00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:17.920
Oh yeah, you is with that.
137
00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:22.680
Now he can Now he can cross over to the
138
00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:26.079
NASCAR side too and wear some some shirts at the
139
00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:32.839
National saying you know, no, no hauler merchandise patch cards. Yeah,
140
00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.839
that's I hate to see it, but you know, I
141
00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.360
get it. I get it a little bit. But like
142
00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.399
obviously if you get and this isn't just racing whatever
143
00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:46.120
whatever you collect, right, you open a pack, you you
144
00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.600
you rather have that that piece of apparel b from
145
00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.519
an actual event that something take off a clothing racking
146
00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.800
cut up, you know, or the Panini trick right where
147
00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.639
they have the guy the athlete wear fifty jerseys at
148
00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.759
one time and start peeling them off and then start
149
00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:07.199
cutting them up. Right, that's not that's not legit as
150
00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.160
far as the game. And that's what we could do
151
00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:12.319
a whole show just on that, on that topic. And
152
00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.040
so now now I find out it's not just the
153
00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.759
sports thing, it's it's now under the racing side of
154
00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.160
the house as well. So it was only a matter
155
00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:23.839
of time. Guys, it's happened.
156
00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:25.680
That's new this year us.
157
00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.079
Welcome to the club, fellas.
158
00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.320
Yay go us yeah.
159
00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:35.080
Well, you know, folks don't realize or look go at
160
00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:36.399
the back and it's like, well, you know, they get
161
00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:38.799
a really cool looking patch, and I think it's off
162
00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:39.519
the drivers.
163
00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:40.000
It's not.
164
00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:44.799
Yeah, you think there'll be an uproar of much of
165
00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.000
an uproar and the racing with the racing hobbyists as
166
00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.360
we see on the stick and ball side or not.
167
00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:53.559
Not really, we haven't seen much of an uproar on it.
168
00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.200
Uh it comes I think, well, I think it's in
169
00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.320
the megabox the Donners megabox come from. And I pull
170
00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.320
I bought a couple of megaboxes and pull those out
171
00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:09.240
and I'm like, this is a total waste. But you know,
172
00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.960
it is what it is. It's what we're giving for.
173
00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.159
You know, I'm still a collector. It's not gonna make
174
00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:16.799
me stop collecting cards. And I think they know that.
175
00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:19.200
And maybe that's it, right, they know, the NASCAR folks,
176
00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:20.759
and if you don't like it.
177
00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.120
Well here's the other thing. And I don't mean that's
178
00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.720
the way it's gonna sound. But maybe because the NASCAR
179
00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:31.879
boxes go for a fraction of what the sports version
180
00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:34.679
boxes of that go for, that they don't feel as
181
00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:38.320
bad right, Like, it's not a four thousand dollars box
182
00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:42.559
sorh or a ten thousand dollars box stuff like that. Uh,
183
00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:46.039
coming out coming out of they can justify it a
184
00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.039
little bit more. I don't you know, I don't know
185
00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.480
if justifying is the right word, but you know, we'll
186
00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:54.919
use it in this case. So maybe it boils down
187
00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:56.240
to something like that.
188
00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.320
I'm sure it does. I mean, if you look at it,
189
00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.519
we're looking at it as a hobby. Everything else. You
190
00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.840
folks at the fanatics, it's all number to them. It's
191
00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.639
all profit, you know, bonus like that. So the amount
192
00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:10.159
of packs they came with hits and how many cases,
193
00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.080
and you know they are into print runs so they
194
00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:15.399
have to be creative. So you know, we're looking at
195
00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:16.799
it as a collectible like that.
196
00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:18.840
And at the end of the day, you know, all right, guys,
197
00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.879
let's get into some some fun er talk. You guys
198
00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:25.960
are uh it's when this airs, you're going to be
199
00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:29.320
right in the middle of the endeavor itself. And it's
200
00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:33.720
the racing car card c A r D Hall of Fame.
201
00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:36.919
Now we've seen this, We've seen Ray from Philly do
202
00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.960
he's done this with and his team with some some
203
00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:44.679
of the Stick and Bass Sports Hobby Card Hall of Fame.
204
00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.600
You guys are covering the Racing Card Hall of Fame
205
00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:52.759
up right now. If you're listening, there's forty nominees for
206
00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:56.279
this year's class. You get to vote on ten of them. Uh,
207
00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.480
so you get to vote on one fourth of who's
208
00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:04.200
up for card induction if you Willness is not Nascar only.
209
00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:08.080
There's f one. There's some INNDI. It's it's racing, just
210
00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.919
the term racing. If it's a racing card, it can
211
00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.679
be into the Racing Card Hall of Fame. Talk about, guys,
212
00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:19.039
talk about this endeavor, some of the rules, what I
213
00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.159
didn't some of the blanks I didn't fill with, Just
214
00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:23.759
sort of that intro into it.
215
00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.840
Right, Yeah, I'll start with it.
216
00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:26.200
Uh.
217
00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:30.679
Two years ago I approached val with the idea of
218
00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.320
the Racing Card Hall of Fame. We we got I
219
00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.759
got some inspiration from the Baseball Card Hall of Fame.
220
00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.320
I thought, we know, we need to have our own
221
00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:40.960
Hall of Fame.
222
00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.639
You know, racing cards are popular, We've been doing it
223
00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:45.919
a long time, and if anybody's gonna do it, I
224
00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.279
think we should be the ones to do it. So
225
00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:51.440
two years ago we started this and it's like what
226
00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.320
you said, John, we came up with what we What
227
00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.840
we do is we like to go out and before
228
00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:01.679
we have a ballot, we go out and we have people.
229
00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.000
We have a form on Google forms where people go
230
00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:07.440
out and they can fill out nominees on the cards
231
00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.519
that they would like to see be on the ballot
232
00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.519
for the Racing Card Hall of Fame. So that process
233
00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:18.559
we've already been through that. But people go out and
234
00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:21.120
they have particular cards, like what you said while ago,
235
00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:23.159
everybody has their own cards that they love and they
236
00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:25.840
cherish and they like to show off, and that's what
237
00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.559
we love about it, and they will nominate these cards
238
00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.519
to be on the ballot. So what we'll do is
239
00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:36.440
we'll pull all those together. If certain cards get X
240
00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.519
number of votes, they're automatically on the ballot. If they
241
00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.960
only receive like one nomination, then we have a committee
242
00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:45.440
of five collectors.
243
00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:47.679
Vall and I are not part of that committee.
244
00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.360
That I give them the list and I tell them
245
00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.720
to pick their top depending on how many we get
246
00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.440
top x number of cards that they would like to
247
00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:58.559
see on the ballot. So that's how we form our
248
00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.360
ballot every year and The way that it also works is,
249
00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.960
you know, we started out the first year with forty
250
00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:08.120
and what we did was we took the top twenty
251
00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.240
vote getters that were or the top okay, the top
252
00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:14.720
ten went into the Hall of Fame. The second twenty
253
00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:17.960
roll over to the next year, and then we add
254
00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.399
a new twenty cards to.
255
00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.200
The ballot the next year. So that's kind of how
256
00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:22.519
that went.
257
00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.799
So to be on it to if you don't get inducted,
258
00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:28.720
and to be on the next year's ballot, you have
259
00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:32.320
to be the next twenty after the ten that get inducted,
260
00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:36.399
So in a sense, the last ten fall off the ballot,
261
00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:38.879
that is correct, the last ten fall of the ballot,
262
00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:40.879
and of course we had to tend the guy that
263
00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:42.960
went into the Hall of Fame. So that leaves an
264
00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.440
opening for twenty new cards, which is not saying that,
265
00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:48.919
you know, a card that wasn't that only had one
266
00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.559
vote last year can't be on the ballot again next year.
267
00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:53.000
And that that happened.
268
00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:56.360
I think this year we've got three cards that were
269
00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:59.440
in that lower twent lower ten last year that are
270
00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:00.960
on the ballot again this year.
271
00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.840
That made it back. So that's that's kind of how
272
00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:05.279
we're doing it right.
273
00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:10.679
And val I'll ask you to be considered on the ballot. Right,
274
00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.480
it's just race, It's just a racing card. It can
275
00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.480
be F one, it can be Indie Nascar. I'm probably
276
00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:20.639
leaving somebody off not and.
277
00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:26.200
Speed boats, bike, drag racing, drag, yeah, drag racing.
278
00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.320
Trying to get John Force in there.
279
00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:30.720
Yeah, I'm hoping this year is John Force's year, his
280
00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:34.039
rookie card. But yeah, if here here's kind of how
281
00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:36.759
we look at it. Uh, down to Daytona. There is
282
00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:41.519
the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America, which encompasses all motorsports.
283
00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.879
So if they recognize that as a motorsport and there's
284
00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:47.519
a card of it, then we recognize that as Yeah.
285
00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:48.480
I like that.
286
00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.240
It makes sense. But I love and that's awesome. You know,
287
00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:55.519
we have hall of Fames for almost everything, right obviously
288
00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.200
our normal sports hall of Fame, you know, uh even
289
00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:02.480
even for like Hollywood they have their their star on
290
00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.039
you know, the Hollywood Walk Star.
291
00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:06.000
Right.
292
00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:10.919
People like less, people like to see things they like
293
00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:12.960
get sort of honored and inducted.
294
00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:15.200
I think this is ah.
295
00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:19.879
I love the idea of card hall of fames racing
296
00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.679
for sure, as a great part of our hobby. What
297
00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:28.919
I'd love to see is, and I've talked to like
298
00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:32.919
Ray for his sports side, what I'd love to see again.
299
00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:36.360
Maybe it's wishful thinking, I'd love to see the actual
300
00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:40.720
Sport Hall of Fames encompass the Card Hall of Fames
301
00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.720
in part of their their hall, whether it's a section
302
00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.200
where they can put some of the cards. I know
303
00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.519
in Cooperstown, which I'm not far away, they do have
304
00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.360
a card wing. It's not a card Hall of Fame
305
00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:56.039
per se, but they do have some cards on display.
306
00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:59.159
But I'd love to see or let's even have a
307
00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:02.399
building that's just the sports Card Hall of Fame that
308
00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:05.919
has all these sports and the and the inductee cards,
309
00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.840
except you'll have to have armed guards when the place
310
00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:09.600
is not open.
311
00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:11.480
With some of the values of so.
312
00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.080
Probably more so than just the the bronze bust of
313
00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.080
players that are just in the hall, right, because the
314
00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.240
cards are worth more than the bronze bus. But I'd
315
00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:26.799
love to see again, either the Sports Hall of Fame
316
00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.320
to encompass the Card Hall of Fames, or an individual
317
00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.120
building just for all the card Hall of Fames. I
318
00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.000
mean again, might be pipe dreaming or wish for thinking,
319
00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:39.639
but well why not, right, I mean, what's your thoughts there?
320
00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:40.759
And that's interesting.
321
00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.120
I have never thought about that per se, you know,
322
00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.639
actually having a physical uh sports card Hall of Fame.
323
00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.080
I think I think it would be neat Uh. I
324
00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:52.759
think that, you know. One of the logistical things is
325
00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.080
is where you get all the cards? You know, are
326
00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:56.039
they gonna be on loan?
327
00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.879
And like well just like well, like listen, when I
328
00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:01.120
go to the Baseball Hall of Fame, right, which is
329
00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:04.480
an hour and five minute basically an hour away from Syracu,
330
00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:08.599
New York, right, many of the displays will say item
331
00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.240
on loan from so and so or from the personal
332
00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:17.599
collection of you know, Walter Jay Hobbs. I'm just making up,
333
00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.640
you know, uh, you know from the O'Malley family on loan.
334
00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:22.279
Right.
335
00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.279
People donate, People even donate like full time, like, hey,
336
00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.119
it's mine, but I'm not.
337
00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.559
Going to ask for it back.
338
00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.799
Have it be on display for people to enjoy at
339
00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:34.359
the Hall of Fame. But if you ever take it
340
00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.319
off display, I want it back. It's mine, you know.
341
00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:41.440
So even something like that, like I know there's a race,
342
00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.000
there's a NASCAR hall. Is there a racing Hall of
343
00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.759
Fame and a NASCAR Hall of Fame or or there
344
00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:50.440
are they two separate entities.
345
00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:53.160
We got quite a few racing halls, Okay, yeah we do.
346
00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:57.160
North Carolina has one, and then you also have the
347
00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:01.319
NASCAR Hall of Fame. Like looking for something about the one.
348
00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.799
Yeah, the International Motorsports Hall of Fame in Talladega. You've
349
00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:07.920
got the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America which is
350
00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.799
in Daytona. And like I said, there's a North Carolina
351
00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.319
Motorsports Hall of Fame. There's there's all kinds of different ones.
352
00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:16.599
Of course, the big one is the NASCAR Hall of
353
00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:18.799
that's the k for NASCAR.
354
00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.720
Well, even for one of those entities.
355
00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.960
Guys to sort of in break like if you approach
356
00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.880
whatever one like I don't want to tell you what
357
00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:30.960
to do, and say, look, we launched this racing card
358
00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.160
Hall of Fame. It's been pretty you know, we're in
359
00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.160
our second year. It's been pretty. It's it's gaining momentum,
360
00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.960
gaining steam. We'd love to sort of encompass that as
361
00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.920
part of what you do. You know, for one of
362
00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.680
them to say, hey, well you know, we'll put it
363
00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.559
behind glass and the secure thing. If you want to
364
00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.599
like let us know what it should say, and and
365
00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.799
that would be also another way to expose that part
366
00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:59.519
of the hobby to people who are coming there to
367
00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.920
pay respects to their favorite racers, their favorite driving teams
368
00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:07.480
or what have you. Right, it's really it doesn't even
369
00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.000
have to take a ton of space up maybe even
370
00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:14.039
being incorporated as part of existing. You know, if it's
371
00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:18.279
a Dale Earnhart card that makes the Racing Card Hall
372
00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:21.359
of Fame, put it sort of in a display that's
373
00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:27.440
already housing Dale Earnhardt, you know, a you know, a
374
00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.480
racing suit or a part of his car or whatever
375
00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.079
the case may be, a hat, right, just make it part,
376
00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.119
make it part of that the display already exists.
377
00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.200
They don't even have to build.
378
00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:41.359
They just need to make a sheut for what however,
379
00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.640
to you know, to put a card and say even
380
00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:49.960
say like this card was inducted into the Racing Card
381
00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.039
Hall of Fame in twenty twenty four or whatever.
382
00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:53.440
You know.
383
00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:58.599
I'm and I think it bridges both the hobby and
384
00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:02.000
the sport in a way that hasn't been done before
385
00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:04.680
and expose as more people.
386
00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:09.039
You are listening to the Sportscard Nation podcast, we'll be
387
00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:10.920
right back after this break.
388
00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:15.519
Hobby Hotline is the Hobby's only live, interactive call in show.
389
00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:20.559
Join some of your favorite Hobby personalities every Saturday eleven
390
00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:25.720
am Eastern eight am Pacific to discuss the hottest Hobby topics.
391
00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.319
If you miss us live, catch us after the fact
392
00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:33.599
on all major podcast platforms. Follow us on socials at
393
00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:38.240
Hobby Hotline.
394
00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:39.599
We back.
395
00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.319
It's like Val said, and Logan you said this too.
396
00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:47.680
How many people are racing fans that don't even know
397
00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:49.079
there's racing cards?
398
00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:49.559
Right?
399
00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:52.799
And I think I think I like to see more
400
00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.160
of the tracks get involved in maybe handing cards out
401
00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:58.559
as people come to the gates for the race.
402
00:20:59.200 --> 00:20:59.480
Right.
403
00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.359
How easy is that? Peranini makes it. Make some promo packs,
404
00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.920
send it to the tracks, make even make some special
405
00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:07.920
for the tracks.
406
00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:09.359
You don't have to.
407
00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:12.799
Send the same set to the same twenty tracks. Make
408
00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:16.759
make them a track exclusive. Then it becomes even more collectible.
409
00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:19.079
I didn't get to that race, but I have three
410
00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:21.720
sets from the race. I went to let me, I'll
411
00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.759
trade you one of my race track sets for your
412
00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:27.640
race track sets, and now we have a master set.
413
00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:28.519
Right, And.
414
00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:32.880
To say, Logan, you have one of those sayings like
415
00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.559
I've been saying it. I've been saying it. We have.
416
00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:39.000
Well it's again I'm not It's just makes sense. It's
417
00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:39.839
common sense.
418
00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:41.839
We are right there with you. We brought this up
419
00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.400
with Lucas and Misha. We've talked to them. You know,
420
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.119
we've seen some of the stuff from you know, years ago,
421
00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:50.960
from promotion wise. It it baffles me that they don't
422
00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.200
do this at the tracks. They don't even let the
423
00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.680
folks know that, Hey, we're gonna have openny you know,
424
00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.240
the winner or whatever you know.
425
00:21:57.799 --> 00:21:58.480
Uh for that.
426
00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:01.000
So I even brought up, you know, maybe do a
427
00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:04.079
sticker book because stickers are cheaper NASCAR. To your point
428
00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:07.599
about trying to get cards, I've tried to try to
429
00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:09.680
get cars in the NASCAR Hall of Fame. It kind
430
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:11.400
of went on deaf ears. I think they just want
431
00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.599
stuff that the drivers have touched. They don't understand about
432
00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:16.400
collectible well you know they I don't know. They love
433
00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.480
the die cast. They got plenty of diecasts and the
434
00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:21.400
gift shop like that. So there's this whole I don't know. Look,
435
00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.839
if you can shine some more light on it, whatever
436
00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.440
about with cars, but we have tried, and we've done
437
00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:28.960
a lot that we can know. The one thing I do,
438
00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.680
like what you said, is maybe try if NASCAR Hall
439
00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:33.359
of Fame is not working, maybe we try some.
440
00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:34.640
Of these other Yeah, that's true.
441
00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:39.880
But we've thought val Val lives in the Charlotte areas,
442
00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:42.279
so he he's right there with the Hall of Fame.
443
00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:44.200
He knows people at the Hall of Fame. I know
444
00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:45.960
people at the Hall of Fame. We've talked to people
445
00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.599
at the Hall of Fame, and it just it never
446
00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.839
comes to fruition. They they it's like what he said,
447
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:54.640
they're they're really and I love diecasts, don't get me
448
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:56.759
Wrong's not a big die cast guy, but I am.
449
00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:01.400
But they love the die cast car. But the cards
450
00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.680
are non existent. Tell him the story real quick about
451
00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:07.039
who was it it was? Was it Mike Joy or
452
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:07.559
who was it?
453
00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:10.880
Yeah? Just yeah, I'll let me tell you about the
454
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:11.359
Mike Joy.
455
00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:12.680
And then I was gonna say maybe part of the
456
00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:15.160
problem is that the NASCAR Hall of Fame is run
457
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:17.599
by the City of Shark and not by NASCAR itself,
458
00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:19.400
so there might be disconnect there.
459
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:22.519
But the Mike Joy, he's an announcer.
460
00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.279
Yeah, he's an announcer. He been a long time announcer,
461
00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:27.680
he has a card like in nineteen one tracks. He's
462
00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:30.039
been around a while, he knows that there's been So
463
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.039
in twenty nineteen, I was, you know, having this trying
464
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.359
to get NASK, trying to get NASCAR cards mentioned.
465
00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:37.720
You know.
466
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:41.279
I saw I turned on like Major League Baseball preseason
467
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:43.720
and I saw like tops card, you know, in the
468
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:46.200
promo for their game Modever, like, how come you don't
469
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:47.039
have him for NASCAR?
470
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:48.559
So was that the Hall of Fame.
471
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.640
Mike Joy was there and I was telling him like, hey,
472
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:54.000
you know about something about cards, NASCAR cards, and he's like,
473
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.839
they don't make him anymore. I'm like, yes, they do.
474
00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:00.480
O Panini twenty sixteen, and I was like let me know,
475
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:01.039
and I was.
476
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.720
Like, I'll give you this just didn't.
477
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.319
This just did. Yeah.
478
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:09.960
Maybe it was twenty eighteen, and so I was actually
479
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.440
going to the race the following day or whatever, so
480
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.400
Fox TV trailer or whatever, and so I ended up
481
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.960
dropping him off and never heard anything from him, which
482
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.920
is fine. But then in twenty nineteen, Panini made a
483
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:24.680
special Fox announcers set that was given just to the
484
00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:29.000
Fox announcer like that, and then so my Joy was
485
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.319
in that and stuff. So but still, you know, NASCAR
486
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.440
is a little different than other sports, and I think
487
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.799
they don't really help promote anybody. And so, you know,
488
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.200
and I think the tracks have the mentality and unless
489
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.680
you're paying, they don't, you know, they're not interested. They're
490
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:44.799
not you know, help Panini, even though Panini pays for
491
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:45.359
the license.
492
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.920
Yeah, that's sad that there's a disconnect because it doesn't
493
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:49.960
have to be that way.
494
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.359
It doesn't have to cost a ton of money.
495
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.640
They're already making They're already making the cards, right, Panini's
496
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:01.559
already has presses running making the cards make even you know,
497
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.799
change the photo, maybe just change the numbering or say
498
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.519
promo or say made for the tele data rate, you know,
499
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:10.759
whatever you want to change on it to make it
500
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.240
specific to a race or an event, right without doing
501
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.839
a ton of extra work, use the same photos. I
502
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:20.400
know that's lazy and they could do more than that.
503
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:23.480
But in the very least, even even that, right.
504
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:26.440
I don't understand. You know, NASCAR is like a three
505
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:27.160
hour commercial.
506
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:29.920
Everybody's got all the logos and everything around like that, right,
507
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.160
And so when you have a card made, that's a
508
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.359
snapshot in time. If you go back and look at
509
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.960
the eighty eight Max set. I can't remember who were
510
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:38.880
in Logan will probably know there's a red baron car
511
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:42.880
and there's a Country Giant lemonade and Shine Lemonade which51200:25:42.880 --> 00:25:47.319
is Michael Walter. So those are iconic sets and those51300:25:47.400 --> 00:25:50.839
cards are forever, and I don't understand why NASCAR or51400:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.079
Panini doesn't use that for advertising, because you know, to51500:25:54.119 --> 00:25:58.079
get a NASCAR made, you need the driver to okay51600:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.640
the photo, you need the team, you need the sponsor51700:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.400
to think against NASCAR. So there's it's not like Major51800:26:03.480 --> 00:26:05.519
League Baseball. We have to get all those a lot more.51900:26:05.759 --> 00:26:09.359
But it's advertising commercial, right, So I don't under the52000:26:09.440 --> 00:26:11.880
point like giving them out at the tracks and branded52100:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.200
with stuff, but I think it's just extra work and is.52200:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.720
Now there's isn't there a Panini car?52300:26:17.519 --> 00:26:22.440
Panini spots the car, but it was running mahomes Hood52400:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.720
or Kaitlin Clark and so they did have some stuff,52500:26:25.720 --> 00:26:27.880
but again the announcers don't want to talk about it.52600:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.039
And they had Greg Golding, who is you know your52700:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.039
twenty finished in the twenties, nobody that's a big contender52800:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.039
because they were getting a sweetheart deal for advertising, so52900:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.599
you know they're not getting any kind of traction or53000:26:38.599 --> 00:26:41.079
they're I take it back now, Misha has they have53100:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.079
done interaction with the fans. They've been doing some breaks,53200:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.880
but that again is limited to whoever's around at the53300:26:47.880 --> 00:26:51.079
break in that if I go to let me ask53400:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.960
you guys this, if I go to a race, like53500:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.640
each driver has like a merch trailer, right yep. So53600:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.079
if I go up to all these trailers, well I53700:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.279
see any card items.53800:27:01.799 --> 00:27:04.680
What's probably not. You see DoD Gast, but you won't53900:27:04.720 --> 00:27:05.319
see cards.54000:27:05.599 --> 00:27:09.000
And that's right, And so you know Mish's credit. He54100:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.559
was trying to get them on the haulers. So when54200:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.799
you went to uh Gibbs Racing or a Hendrick on54300:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.160
that you be able to buy a box of cards.54400:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.599
But from what I'm hearing is like nobody wants to.54500:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.200
You know, Joey Logano is on the on the blaster54600:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.519
box right, because it's really hard to sell a hobby54700:27:24.519 --> 00:27:26.640
box there the blaster box on the megabox a way54800:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.200
to go. But Joey Logannal's and nobody at Hendrick wants54900:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.519
Joey Logano, you know, on the on the haller. So, uh,55000:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.039
I think they have maybe some of those blasters in55100:27:35.160 --> 00:27:39.319
a track tent something like that, but not on the haulers.55200:27:39.359 --> 00:27:41.480
And I think if they had a generic blaster, or55300:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.200
if they made a Hendrick blaster Penske blaster, that they55400:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.599
could they could sell in those blasters and a lot55500:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.400
of exposure to the cards.55600:27:49.480 --> 00:27:50.640
But or even a.55700:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.400
They could make they could make if they wanted to.55800:27:55.000 --> 00:27:58.680
They could make the boxes themselves race cards. They could55900:27:58.759 --> 00:28:02.319
make the blaster shaped like a race car. You rip,56000:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.440
I mean, you know, when you want to rip over56100:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.519
the pack, you got to open it. But they could56200:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.480
even make they could even make, you know, like we56300:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.119
see for baseball cards they have the holiday tens.56400:28:12.279 --> 00:28:16.720
They could make a race car ten tenantself.56500:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.319
The tenants self becomes a collectible for the race for56600:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.200
the for race cards. But the marketing department this is56700:28:25.200 --> 00:28:28.400
would have to do it. Do it, like don't I could?56800:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.960
We could talk about it and get it done. Why56900:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.160
buy the here's the thing, why buy the licensing if57000:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.079
you're not even want to put in a half an effort, like,57100:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.559
let someone else get the license in and do the work.57200:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.759
If you don't want to do the work, don't take57300:28:41.759 --> 00:28:42.240
the job.57400:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.599
I think it's things like, well, if it is extra57500:28:44.680 --> 00:28:46.720
money and will it pay off? Like all right, we're57600:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.279
good with what we're doing. Or we're doing you know, the.57700:28:49.319 --> 00:28:55.279
Soft and people people buy wax boxes know one they're57800:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.960
gonna rip open the box, open the packs and throw57900:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.599
the wrappers in the box away. Now, how you're making58000:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.079
a product where the box itself to ten becomes a58100:29:04.119 --> 00:29:07.200
collectible you can put on your shelf, you mantle, you58200:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.480
can put your cards in as a storage case.58300:29:09.920 --> 00:29:10.880
Like it's a win.58400:29:10.799 --> 00:29:14.519
Win it is. It is. And we've been beating that58500:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.759
drum a long time, haven't we.58600:29:16.799 --> 00:29:19.440
Now, Yes, I'm playing bass on it now.58700:29:19.960 --> 00:29:20.960
I don't know what we're doing.58800:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.519
I think that just has.58900:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.759
Me scratching my head. That has me scratching my head, guys.59000:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.599
And then you've got you know, you got the Major59100:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.119
League Baseball Network. They have two separate shows that in59200:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.400
some form or fashion incorporate baseball cards as part of59300:29:37.440 --> 00:29:37.799
the show.59400:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.400
Now, so like, you know, I guess we come from59500:29:41.400 --> 00:29:43.440
Major League Baseball. I don't know if you know NASCAR59600:29:43.519 --> 00:29:44.480
has that derective.59700:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.599
Well, it's a panini and I'm buying a licensee and59800:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.799
I'm like, hey, how do we get on the same page?59900:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.839
Here and this is a win win, like, we're paying60000:29:52.839 --> 00:29:53.680
you for the luck.60100:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.119
So I have to at least, you know, a shout60200:29:56.119 --> 00:29:58.119
out whatever. When I think it was Austin Dillon had60300:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.000
won the race, he cont to them, I think it was,60400:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.559
And you know, try to get Richeal's racing to buy60500:30:03.839 --> 00:30:05.599
some of those race whens. For the life of me,60600:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.960
I understand, like when a driver wins a race, why60700:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.599
they're not buying the Pennini instance they have in the shop.60800:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.599
That's how hard is it to make a four card60900:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.960
even a minimum four card promo.61000:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.000
Set for a race?61100:30:20.279 --> 00:30:23.160
You know, the racing schedule a year ahead of time,61200:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.400
if not more right, It's not like, hey, we're racing61300:30:26.440 --> 00:30:27.039
in two weeks.61400:30:27.079 --> 00:30:28.440
New race just popped up.61500:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.559
It's not that short to right, you know what the61600:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.680
dates of those races make little promo sets. I don't61700:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.400
care if you just give them out the kids through61800:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.880
the gate, only kids fifteen, you know, thirteen and under.61900:30:42.279 --> 00:30:43.680
Get it. I would have.62000:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.440
I would give it to everybody. But if you if62100:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.799
you can't print off a million of them, and you62200:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.039
want to give them the just kids, that's fine too,62300:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.559
because the parents are gonna see them. Nonetheless, that are62400:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.720
fans too, and they're gonna realize there's racing cards to62500:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.279
be had. Like it's little things, those little things that62600:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.319
aren't happening that has me. And I'm not even a62700:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.319
racing card guy. Per say, I have some wax that62800:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.319
seal it. That's the story in itself. Thanks thanks Loud.62900:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.920
But but like, like, it doesn't seem like it would63000:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.480
be that difficult to do. And and I know it63100:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.440
will cost money, but it's not like they it's gonna63200:31:17.480 --> 00:31:18.799
cost someone to do with either.63300:31:18.880 --> 00:31:20.599
Yeah, I don't I don't think anybody wants to spend63400:31:20.640 --> 00:31:22.240
the money. I don't know if he wants to the63500:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.160
tracks want you know, I guess you know, I know Charlotte,63600:31:25.400 --> 00:31:26.640
have the ring, buy the print and you get a63700:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.920
little match on how to and it's got the year63800:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.119
number twenty five and you know how hard it kind63900:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.119
of sub that in when you go to indyk nty64000:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.160
five hundred you buy the program. I think it's got64100:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.279
a voucher or uncut or it used to uncut sheet64200:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.680
of the drivers. There's so many opportunities, but I just64300:31:41.920 --> 00:31:42.759
I just think.64400:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.680
They're leaving them on the table though logan like, no,64500:31:45.960 --> 00:31:47.240
they don't find the money.64600:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.359
They don't want to do work. You know, maybe they're64700:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.319
busy with the other license with a pickaball.64800:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.720
Well, that don't buy the light like to me, like,64900:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.319
if you're gonna take the job, do the job at65000:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.960
least better than they are now. I know, I'm not65100:32:01.039 --> 00:32:04.799
saying they should do everything exactly like Baseball does, right,65200:32:04.960 --> 00:32:06.680
but parks But.65300:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.039
Parkside came in to do IndyCar and they were doing65400:32:10.079 --> 00:32:11.039
exactly that.65500:32:11.079 --> 00:32:15.440
They have packs at the tracks, and that makes sense65600:32:15.759 --> 00:32:21.279
on ados on card audos, yes, and I think they65700:32:21.319 --> 00:32:22.880
had like a I want to say, like an all65800:32:22.920 --> 00:32:23.440
Star pack.65900:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.359
I think a generic kind of the driver. You know,66000:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.160
NASCAR could have packs. But Parkside, you know, is new,66100:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.880
and they were they were due work, trying to do well.66200:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.519
Guys, we could, we could. I'm getting mad and I'm66300:32:35.519 --> 00:32:41.319
not even racing card collector per se. So but listen, Uh,66400:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.720
I'll make sure that the links to vote are on66500:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.519
whether you're watching this on YouTube or listening to this66600:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.519
in audio form, the links will be in the show66700:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.480
notes to vote for your favorite ten cards for induction66800:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.079
into the Racing Card Hall of Fame. And uh, you66900:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.039
know I'm talking the two guys who probably do more67000:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.519
for racing than than what what Panini does. So, uh,67100:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.799
there you go, and you should you should take a67200:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.440
page from these two gentlemen and show some some initiative67300:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.119
and some hootspa and get some stuff done. But uh,67400:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.000
you know what, maybe you should call your contacts at67500:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.880
Panini and they can like, do uh you know their67600:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.279
version of the Racing Card Hall of Fame. I know67700:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.559
they can't put a competing but something they can allude67800:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.160
to that don't exists. Maybe there should be a vow67900:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.880
and logan card and pine we've been pushing for that too.68000:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.279
But so so John, let me give out the links68100:33:40.319 --> 00:33:41.359
real quick to the listeners.68200:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.440
Yeh yeah, go ahead, yeah, go ahead.68300:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.319
First of all, the the actual Racing Card Hall of68400:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.200
Fame site where you can see the cards that have68500:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.359
been inducted is Racing Card h o f dot com.68600:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.720
So if you go to Racing Card hof dot com68700:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.200
can see the twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five68800:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.079
class of the Racing Card Hall of Fame.68900:33:59.400 --> 00:33:59.720
Uh.69000:34:00.000 --> 00:34:00.680
As far as.69100:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.079
Voting goes for this year, it's a Google form, but69200:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.799
I did do a bitly URL for it, so it's69300:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.039
it's a secure site, so it's gonna be HTTPS, and69400:34:11.119 --> 00:34:15.039
so it's gonna be bit dot l y slash twenty69500:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.639
twenty six rc h o F Vote. That's how you69600:34:19.639 --> 00:34:21.400
get to go vote, and you can vote for up69700:34:21.400 --> 00:34:22.639
to ten cards you want, have to vote for ten69800:34:22.679 --> 00:34:24.039
cards if you don't want to, but you can vote69900:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.480
for up to ten cards and asks for your email70000:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.159
and a password because the email it sends you an70100:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.599
email confirmation showing your vote. So the password to get70200:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.320
in and it's on the site is r C HOF70300:34:37.639 --> 00:34:38.199
all cats.70400:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.840
So go out vote early, vote often.70500:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.920
There you go and listen. If Panini or Nascar had70600:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.639
the initiative you guys did in the hustle and the energy,70700:34:52.400 --> 00:34:58.039
the hubby would be even better than already. Appreciate you.70800:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.719
I love these card Hall of Fames. I think they70900:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.119
were long overdue and good to see you kind of.71000:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.960
And again this is the third year, so this is71100:35:07.000 --> 00:35:11.000
not like just happening. This will be the third induction class.71200:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.599
So as well as you've giving it out verbally, I'll71300:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.519
have that in the show notes for anyone that doesn't71400:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.880
write fast like me, that can.71500:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.480
Say appreciate the kind kind of work John, And if71600:35:26.440 --> 00:35:30.599
earlier classes. They can go out to NASCAR radio dot71700:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.199
com and there is a link there Welcome to the71800:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.840
Racing Card Hall of Fame and you can select the71900:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.639
Card Hall of Fame cups.72000:35:41.199 --> 00:35:46.400
The well awesome endeavor man, congrats on on your third72100:35:46.440 --> 00:35:52.400
induction about to happen here soon and awesome to see.72200:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.480
And you guys, you know, like I said, you probably72300:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.079
do more for the hobby than Benini does and you72400:35:58.119 --> 00:35:59.320
don't even have the license.72500:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.199
So yeah, let me say this voting. Voting will end72600:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.320
on the first of February. We will tabulate all the votes,72700:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.679
we will create the new twenty twenty six class website,72800:36:13.159 --> 00:36:17.880
and we will unveil that on NASCAR Radio the show72900:36:17.960 --> 00:36:19.800
that we had before the Daytona five hundred.73000:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.480
There you go at all like that's called strategic planning. Again,73100:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.599
another page they could take out of your guys's book73200:36:27.639 --> 00:36:32.079
if so true. So well, guys, always glad to chop73300:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.679
up some hobby racing and otherwise with you continued success73400:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.320
with NASCAR Radio, the Racing Card Hall of Fame, and73500:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.039
we'll do this as far as I'm concerned, we'll do73600:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.920
this every year and always good talking.73700:36:46.559 --> 00:36:47.840
With Thank you, John for having us.73800:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.519
Yeah, thanks John, we appreciate you, buddy.73900:36:49.800 --> 00:36:50.239
Thank you.74000:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.400
So reminder that is part one. I know they kind74100:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.760
of said their goodbyes at the end. We'll have the74200:36:56.800 --> 00:37:01.039
other half of this conversation next week. But in the meantime,74300:37:01.800 --> 00:37:06.840
go to the link and vote on your favorite NASCAR74400:37:07.639 --> 00:37:11.000
or race I shouldn't say NASCAR, but your favorite racing74500:37:11.119 --> 00:37:15.280
cards because it encompasses more than NASCAR as well. To74600:37:15.480 --> 00:37:21.880
get the second inductees second class inducted into the Racing74700:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.679
Card Hall of Fame. We're going to wrap up the74800:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.400
show with our hobbyes the People Announcer the Week. But74900:37:28.519 --> 00:37:34.400
again a reminder, second half of this conversation next episode.75000:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.119
Time for our hobby is the people Announcer of the week.75100:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.000
Hey there, this is John Keating from that seventies card75200:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.800
show with a friendly reminder that the hobby is the people.75300:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.039
If you'd like to be the hobby is the people75400:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.840
Announcer of the Week to four MP three file and75500:37:56.000 --> 00:38:01.360
send it to Sportscard Nation DC and Gmail. Dunk m