Jan. 16, 2026
Logan Ward & Val Marz Hobby Talk & Racing Card HOF E371
Nascard Radio's Val Marz and Logan Ward join me to chop up some hobby and also talk about their "Racing Card Hall of Fame"
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Sports Guard Nations Hobbies, the People, Wheely News and Interviews.
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It's your number one soul sports gar Nations hobby is
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the people.
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Sports Guarnation. What is up, everybody?
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Welcome to episode three seventy one of Sports Cardination. My
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two guests today are good friends of mine, but that's
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not why. That's not the only reason they're on the show.
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It's been a bit u but they're the host of
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Nascard Radio, Logan Warden val Mars, and we're gonna talk
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a little bit. But they know the hobby besides racing,
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so we're gonna we're gonna chop up some hobby. We're
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gonna talk about their venture the Racing Card Hall of Fame.
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We've seen Ray Fonio and team do that with some
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of the other sports. Well, these guys are tackling the
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race seen Card Hall. Voting is open now. We'll give
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you the link during the show and it'll be in
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the show notes as well to go vote for your
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all time favorite racing cards to be inducted in the
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Racing Card Hall of Fame. So this is part one
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of two, as we usually do, and happy to be
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joined by Valen Logan and we have fun. You know,
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when we get together, we even forget there's microphones and recordings,
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and it's always fun. You never know to what might
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be said. So with that being said, let's get the
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show started. I sat down with Logan Ward and Val Mars,
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my friends from NASCAR Radio. We talked some Nascar, we
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talked some hobby, and we talked some Racing Card Hall
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of Fame again, as I do on the show. Folks,
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it is a two part series, so this is part one,
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but it's actually the later part of the conversation. But
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I wanted we wanted to put it first because it
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talks about something that's ongoing right now, which is the
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Racing Card Hall of Fame. The second class to be
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inductive voting is open now, so look for that in
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the show notes and they'll also talk about it during
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the interview as well.
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So enjoy going going back to Nascard Radio. You know,
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we are a niche show. We don't have the viewership
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numbers that the stick and ball sports have, But what
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I will say is we have a very very loyal audience.
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We love our viewers and our listeners, and we get
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a lot of interaction and many of them have become
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good friends of us. So from that aspect of the show,
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that's one of the parts that I really love.
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John's gonna touch on real quick.
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The you're talking about the mattingly and it was kind
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of a simpler time, you know, I was thinking of
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the tops of kind.
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Of making there.
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But you know what's going on right now with NASCAR.
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We like Logan was talking about having the counter zillage
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and he's gonna have your card twenty five, but the
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kind of muddy the water. He issued a Panini instant
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last year of him in twenty four. He has a
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like the first card in the print on demand with
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some parallel he was kind of holding him out, I
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guess for this year on the base it's kind of
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it's kind of confusing the nascars and that.
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Then we talked a little bit before we went on
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live and recorded. You even said with Panini incant that
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this two cards missed. It's supposed to be a seventy
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two card set. It's a seventy card set, and I
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think you said number two and number ten. If you're
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looking for number two and number ten, you're not gonna
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find them at this point. And listen, I don't want to.
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I don't want to drone on too much about it,
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but like I get things happened contractually or you can't
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come to it, like just put another number two and
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the number ten.
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Just take a different.
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Subject, different team however, whatever route you go. But they
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shouldn't be missing cards. That wasn't old ploy back in
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baseball card days to get people to buy more packs.
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We don't need to do that anymore. And this isn't
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even a pack issued set. This is a printed demand set.
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So just replace the two in the ten so people
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can have a complete set. And you know, especially if
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you go if some if that set gets handed down,
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not even so, but just you know, dad gives that,
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the son or grandpa gives that the grandson or granddaughter,
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and they're looking.
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At the set, not knowing any of the prior history.
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They're gonna be like, grandpa gave me a set that's
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not even complete.
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What did he do with two and ten? He's just a.
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Yeah, I totally agree with you, John.
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I don't know where the logic is, especially you know,
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in twenty twenty five not you know, missing numbers, and
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I think it's because it's in their in their system
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so it exists, but it doesn't. It is nothing was
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I don't know. I guess he can't add some there.
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But well, I said, man, I just make just make
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a replacement, tune a replacement.
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It's not it's not rocket science.
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Well this is gonna blow your mind because I didn't
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tell you this part. Well, they made an error on
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one of the cars and they printed it twice, so
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there's actually a variation on a card intink twenty five
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the Kyle Larson. They missed that the date was twenty
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twenty five and they put two thousand and five, and
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so they caught it. And so say the print one,
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say the print run was one hundred and twenty five.
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They sent you both of them. So so everybody, who
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will I think it was card number? You got two,
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you got the two thousand and five, and you got
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the one, but then there's no two and ten.
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So yeah, just make them like even after the fact,
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and like you know, put them up for sale where
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some people can have their sets to legitimately with no
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skip numbering, no missing numbers, and uh, you know, if
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someone don't want to buy them and they're happy with
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the seventy instead, is that's fine.
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Too, but at least give people the option to have a.
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Full numbered set, right and not because they're gonna be
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people who don't know the backstory and they'll be like,
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this is not complete. I could see arguments happening like,
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hey man, you mailed me this set, I'm missing two cards,
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Like you have those. You got to send them, you know,
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And it becomes a whole dilemma. Right then that person's
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gotta explained No, it's not missing two guards. They never
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made those. Well why not?
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I don't know. There is no good reason.
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Well, sure bring this one up too. But you know
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we're used to race, huse memorabilia, race hues, tires, race
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huge fires, all this stuff. But this year they introduced
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something in Dunrow stuvenirs watching garment. They got the hauler
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they bought off the NASCAR dot com website.
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Well, that never happens on the sports side.
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Well this is this is the first for NASCAR.
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Uh And so I think it's in Dunro's retail LOGI
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can keep me honest here. But we had Lucas on
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Panini doves watch it that we need.
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Now we need Logan's son Tyler to wear a racing
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game US shirt that says no no like merch shop
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patch cards.
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Oh yeah, you is with that.
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Now he can Now he can cross over to the
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NASCAR side too and wear some some shirts at the
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National saying you know, no, no hauler merchandise patch cards. Yeah,
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that's I hate to see it, but you know, I
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get it. I get it a little bit. But like
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obviously if you get and this isn't just racing whatever
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whatever you collect, right, you open a pack, you you
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you rather have that that piece of apparel b from
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an actual event that something take off a clothing racking
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cut up, you know, or the Panini trick right where
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they have the guy the athlete wear fifty jerseys at
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one time and start peeling them off and then start
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cutting them up. Right, that's not that's not legit as
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far as the game. And that's what we could do
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a whole show just on that, on that topic. And
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so now now I find out it's not just the
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sports thing, it's it's now under the racing side of
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the house as well. So it was only a matter
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of time. Guys, it's happened.
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That's new this year us.
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Welcome to the club, fellas.
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Yay go us yeah.
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Well, you know, folks don't realize or look go at
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the back and it's like, well, you know, they get
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a really cool looking patch, and I think it's off
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the drivers.
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It's not.
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Yeah, you think there'll be an uproar of much of
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an uproar and the racing with the racing hobbyists as
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we see on the stick and ball side or not.
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Not really, we haven't seen much of an uproar on it.
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Uh it comes I think, well, I think it's in
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the megabox the Donners megabox come from. And I pull
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I bought a couple of megaboxes and pull those out
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and I'm like, this is a total waste. But you know,
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it is what it is. It's what we're giving for.
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You know, I'm still a collector. It's not gonna make
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me stop collecting cards. And I think they know that.
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And maybe that's it, right, they know, the NASCAR folks,
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and if you don't like it.
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Well here's the other thing. And I don't mean that's
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the way it's gonna sound. But maybe because the NASCAR
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boxes go for a fraction of what the sports version
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boxes of that go for, that they don't feel as
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bad right, Like, it's not a four thousand dollars box
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sorh or a ten thousand dollars box stuff like that. Uh,
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coming out coming out of they can justify it a
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little bit more. I don't you know, I don't know
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if justifying is the right word, but you know, we'll
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use it in this case. So maybe it boils down
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to something like that.
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I'm sure it does. I mean, if you look at it,
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we're looking at it as a hobby. Everything else. You
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folks at the fanatics, it's all number to them. It's
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all profit, you know, bonus like that. So the amount
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of packs they came with hits and how many cases,
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and you know they are into print runs so they
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have to be creative. So you know, we're looking at
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it as a collectible like that.
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And at the end of the day, you know, all right, guys,
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let's get into some some fun er talk. You guys
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are uh it's when this airs, you're going to be
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right in the middle of the endeavor itself. And it's
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the racing car card c A r D Hall of Fame.
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Now we've seen this, We've seen Ray from Philly do
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he's done this with and his team with some some
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of the Stick and Bass Sports Hobby Card Hall of Fame.
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You guys are covering the Racing Card Hall of Fame
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up right now. If you're listening, there's forty nominees for
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this year's class. You get to vote on ten of them. Uh,
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so you get to vote on one fourth of who's
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up for card induction if you Willness is not Nascar only.
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There's f one. There's some INNDI. It's it's racing, just
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the term racing. If it's a racing card, it can
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be into the Racing Card Hall of Fame. Talk about, guys,
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talk about this endeavor, some of the rules, what I
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didn't some of the blanks I didn't fill with, Just
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sort of that intro into it.
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Right, Yeah, I'll start with it.
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Uh.
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Two years ago I approached val with the idea of
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the Racing Card Hall of Fame. We we got I
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got some inspiration from the Baseball Card Hall of Fame.
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I thought, we know, we need to have our own
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Hall of Fame.
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You know, racing cards are popular, We've been doing it
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a long time, and if anybody's gonna do it, I
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think we should be the ones to do it. So
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two years ago we started this and it's like what
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you said, John, we came up with what we What
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we do is we like to go out and before
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we have a ballot, we go out and we have people.
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We have a form on Google forms where people go
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out and they can fill out nominees on the cards
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that they would like to see be on the ballot
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for the Racing Card Hall of Fame. So that process
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we've already been through that. But people go out and
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they have particular cards, like what you said while ago,
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everybody has their own cards that they love and they
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cherish and they like to show off, and that's what
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we love about it, and they will nominate these cards
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to be on the ballot. So what we'll do is
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we'll pull all those together. If certain cards get X
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number of votes, they're automatically on the ballot. If they
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only receive like one nomination, then we have a committee
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of five collectors.
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Vall and I are not part of that committee.
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