Dec. 12, 2025
Paulie Campione is back! E366

Paulie Campione from the "What Do You Collect" podcast returns this week for Part II of our fun hobby conversation.
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*Growing up in NYC during a magic time in sports.
*What Do You Collect.
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*Digital over Cardboard and if so why.
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of Sports Carnation. Polly can't be own his back, my
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fellow New.
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York City.
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Brother from another mother, as we like to say, part
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two of our great conversation, and man, we're gotta have
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him back on and left a little bit on the
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table just for time wise, but awesome chatting up with
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him and just you know, it's like again, it's like
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when two people get together like that that you know,
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have fun as you forget the MIC's even on it.
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So I had a fun conversation. If you think catch
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part one, go back a week and catch that Part
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two was today. You don't matter what order you listen
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to them. So if you're already listening to this, that's
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fine and go back and listen to part well part
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one as well. I want to thank our sponsors that
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Them each month.
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Hobby Hotline, our Saturday Morning Conglomerate show, and Upper Deck
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who lets us review some product. So with all the
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house cleaning out of the way, let's get the show started,
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all right, folks, Here is part two of my conversation
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with Poali camp you owned, and we're going to start
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out here talking about opening wax boxes. Right, and while
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it's fun, no one will argue that it's not really
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cost prohibitive. And while it's fun, open and then sort
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of when the dust settles right, sometimes you really take
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it on the chin. So we're gonna we're gonna tackle
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that aspect and then much more so, here you.
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Are and something even better.
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Like a lot of times, like I can't stand getting
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like a box of cards and then I got you
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know that it comes down to like one pack that's
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good and that I'm gonna like put aside.
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But the rest of that box sits there.
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And even if somebody pops one day and becomes a star,
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I gotta go look through boxes and stuff to find
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out which one I have. Like it's just it's just
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like a crazy process. But like with this the digital
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it's there's a search baar, you type in the guy's
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name and you could have, you know, ten thousand digital moments,
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those few names, those few you own are gonna pop
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right up. It's like a search digital catalog. And not
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only that, but even if you can't take owning a
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lot of these things from ripping packs and having like
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duds that you consider like all right, this is just
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another common they have these things called like burning challenges
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and things like that, so you could basically burn these
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old things into you know, to hit leaderboards and win
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you know, new packs and new stuff or things like
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merchandise or whatever promotion they're running. You can burn them
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off and they still have a value. So it's it's
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kind of nice because it's like even if it's digital,
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it still takes.
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Up mental space.
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And you're like, you know what, I do want to
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get rid of these thousand commons that I have, so
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let's burn them away and turn them into something else.
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So it's like I think it's just like one of
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those things though, like you have to sit down with
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somebody and like like like one night.
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We get some cigars, we order a piazza, We sit.
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There on the digital devices, and then we got to
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like go through it a little bit. So sometimes it's
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like what is all this world? But I think if
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you're able to like chat with it friendly wise and
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see it, it becomes part of your life almost because
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you're like, I gotta make my line up today, you know,
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or whatever. I don't have time, Let me eat autofill
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and put in whatever five plays I have because I
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don't want.
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To miss the day of your fantasy predictions. So I mean,
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it's just something. It's something cool.
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And that's why I you know, like I said, I
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don't stop collecting one thing or another. I think that's
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the whole point. Also, why you know, I started the
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what do you collect?
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Podcasts?
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Because there's so many different avenues and so many things
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you can't collect. If you're a fan of of any sport,
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any player, you just want to you know, own different
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different items. Who wants bibbleheads of you know, do I
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have a Derek Ga bibblehead?
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Do I have one of these headline of things that
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came out with these blown up heads of Yeah?
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I got them all, I got, I got that, I got,
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I got the cards I got, I got told you
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these motion things. It's it when you're a fan, it's
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you like somebody or a team, you just wanna you know,
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might have a nice wide variety, and you know, if
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you're in it just for to get to make a buck.
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It's the whole other story.
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But yeah, well, speaking of that, I wanted to ask
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you about that real quick too. And you mentioned, you know,
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opening a box and maybe get one pack where it
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brings you some joy and then the others maybe not
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not so much. And let's and I think you know,
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without knowing right, these wax boxes are not going down
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in price.
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A lot of them are four figures or more.
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And just because you pay a thousand bucks or more
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for a boxing card does not mean you get get
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that much worth in actual physical cards and most likely
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not right.
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It's like lottery chickens.
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You scratch off ten, you hit one for a couple
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of bucks, in the other nine not so not so much. So, uh,
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you know it's it's wax is generally a losing proposition.
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I wanted to ask you about this. You know, we're
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seeing on the on the physical side of the hobby.
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And again, to each their own, I'm not besmirching anybody,
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but we've seen a lot of people get in the
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physical side of the hobby just to just for the
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financial aspect, I'm gonna buy this on Monday and I'm
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GONNESDA on Wednesday with a double trip of my money
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cash out. You know, they're not necessarily passionate about the
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how They're passionate about flipping and making profit and moving
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on to the next big thing, whatever that might be.
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You know, a lot of the sneaker folks came over
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when that that part of the high that hobby sort
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of plate toed, and they came over when the cards crescendoed,
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especially during COVID with the digital did did you see
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the same sort of phenomenon there or not not so much?
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Yeah?
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Absolutely, I mean there still is things that I feel
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like now everything's trying to level and it's trying to
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become more of the collectibles than.
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The beginning, because in the beginning, it was honestly.
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Like a lot of the a lot of the big
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bang came from people just wanting anything on the platform.
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There was some common selling for twenty five thirty dollars,
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which now you know, a down to the base dollar
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and you know, and it'll sit there because there's so
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many of them because it.
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Was that hole.
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There's not a lot of these and they you know,
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as they were released, they're officially licensed. So a lot
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of the digital stuff that is still going NBA licensed
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with NBA Top Shot, UH, NFL O Day is licensed
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by the NFL. Candy has MLB UH Digital Collectibles, an
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NHL Breakaway has the Hockey.
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They're all officially licensed.
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So these are the only companies that can do a
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video and and basically turn it into a collectible. There's
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you know, maybe someone does digital stills, but to get
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the actual video highlight, there's only those companies that that
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can do that.
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So the mint size on these, generally speaking are very small.
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When there's like this year the Cooper Flag, it's capped
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at only a thousand digital rookie, and then there's some
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parallels that go into that total build. I mean, so
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it's it's it's very small considering. So it's like this
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is right now as they're coming out, they're hovering around
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maybe one sixty to one seventy for just a base
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rookie one hundred and sixty bucks right now as they
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just came out a week or two ago. So uh,
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it's something that you know, everybody wants one because it's
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you know, he's you know, the hot rookie. If it
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becomes like the wenby the sensation and then he actually delivers,
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that's something that will go up.
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You know.
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It's it's as it as they also have these challenges
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that go on throughout the season, it kind of fuels
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them again because it's like, okay, now we have a
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new rare moment that maybe comes out and it's like, okay,
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there'll be the first, you know, the top three people
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that want to burn their Cooper Flag commons and whoever
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burns the top three you say, for example, I'm just
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giving that as an example. There'll be an actual number
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how many people will win it will win.
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This race moment.
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So if you stacked a bunch of them, you know
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now so it's like okay, now I'm gonna burn maybe
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six or seven or eight of them, and I want
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to be the guy who burns the most. Now you
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can get you know that that thousand dollars you know
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Cooper flag moment that only has a few only limited
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maybe minted to fifty or like. That's what happens as
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you know, the season goes on. So which is something
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I like because again it brings you back to your
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collection and it's not just oh I collected it, I
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got it.
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And now it's gone.
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But yes, in the beginning, it was a lot of
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people running in uh trying to make money selling them
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quick because the money was just like you couldn't get
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like you were just happy to get a pack. Like
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the packs had cues where you were lucky, like week
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after week that something would come out. I had, you know,
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I don't know, maybe a month of strikeouts like not
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even not you know, sorry missed out, Sorry missed out,
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and you were just like waiting to try to get
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a pack. So obviously anything you sold out of that
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was profit because it was just, you know, so new,
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and it was so cool because it was like, Okay,
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you want Lebron James on a you know video and
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it's and it's minted and there's only this is the
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first series, so nothing else exists like this. But like
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every collectible, as years keep going on, maybe I don't
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need Lebron James anymore because I already have them from
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the last four years. You know, it's like the physical
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I'm only gonna keep buying the guys that you know
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are my my top you know highlights that my top icons.
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I don't.
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I don't necessarily want every player every year, you know
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what I mean, Like, unless you're like just one of
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those like set completion type people that I just like
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collecting sets, then.
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Sure, go for your go for your sets every year.
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But sometimes it's like, you know, Okay, I got my one,
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I got my autograph Rookie. I'm good. I don't need
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another physical card.
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I mean really for me, that's I mean a lot
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of the stuff, it's unless it's the few of my
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uh you know, icons of idols. If I have the
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Rookie and it's autographed, like I don't know, to me,
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that's that's, that's my highlight. I don't need another limited
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to twenty five card of the same guy three four
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years later.
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I don't know. To me, it's it's.
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Nice, but I don't. I'm not gonna go after it,
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you know. But the digital stuff it creates every year
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a whole nother reason to want to get locked into
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it because you can do so much with it.
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Like I because if you.
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Told me there was a store that could take all
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my physical stuff down to and then like say, they're
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gonna throw it in a trash bind depending on what.
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The value was and they're gonna give me.
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A couple of packs for it, Like all right, Like
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let's go. I'll start digging out my old stuff and
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see what I could do with it. You know, I
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don't know, maybe maybe in the future there since there's
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