Feb. 27, 2026
Tim Wermeling "Going Hobby Full-Time" E377
Tim Wermeling is a collector who recently made the hobby his full time gig. We'll discuss that amongst other topics.
Talking points on this episode may include:
*Beginnings
*His Personal Collection
*Being a competitive Power Lifter
*The decision to go full-time hobby
*Buying slabs over raw
*Where do you do business
*Acquiring inventory
*To price or not to price
*Store eventually?
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Sports Guardations Hobbies, the People Wheely News and Interviews. It's
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your number one soul sports Gardations hobby is the people.
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Sports Gardation. What is up? Everybody? Welcome to Episode three
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seventy seven. Other Sports Cardination podcasts. Congrats not only to
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the women's ice hockey team of the United States, but
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the men's hockey team, both with wins over Canada and
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the gold medal game. Both games went to overtime and
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won in dramatic fashion. And I don't know about you.
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You know, the Olympics comes around only every four years,
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summer and winter, and I'm always I think I like
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the winner ones better to be honest with you, but
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I'm always I was trying to watch as much as
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as I can, and you know, definitely watched a lot
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of hockey, curling, some of the the you know, the
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acrobatic skiing stuff, the looge uh ice skating. Just a
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great event that you know, because we only get it
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every four years. Uh sort of like the World Cup
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in soccer too, right, We look forward to it because
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you know, it's not an every year thing. If it
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was an every year thing, we the bloom would come
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off the row. So watched a lot of outside the
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week off from from school. Uh, so I was on
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automatic vacation, so uh in took a lot of Olympics
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and some great uh some great performances of Lissa Lou
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uh and obviously the two hockey teams just uh uh.
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You know, a lot of a lot of pride comes
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out when when your country does well in the Olympics,
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and the US represented themselves very well. So wanted to
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just kind of start off with that. Uh and uh.
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But today we got a great speaking of great performances,
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we have a great guest on a friend of mine,
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first time on the show though, uh, Tim Wormaline, and
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uh he's recently got into uh not got into the hobby,
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but gone full time with the hobby, buying and selling cars.
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He's all been a collector a while, but making the
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plunge into the full time status. So we're going to tackle,
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you know, some tips, tricks, his approach, why he did it,
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all that fun stuff and whenever someone goes full time
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in a hobby, even though I'm not, maybe I could be,
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but I used to be years ago, but I always
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loved the dynamics involved in kind of picking the brain
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of those people. So when I saw Tim had done that,
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you know a little bit ago, Mike, I gotta have
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to have him on. We gotta we talk about this.
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So that's uh, that's on store for this episode, So
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don't go away, all right. Happy to have the next
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gentleman on the Sports Cardination guest line. I consider him
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a friend. I know I didn't do good this year
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and his football points pool, but previous year I finished
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in the money. I flamed out this year, but he's
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someone who's just went full time in the hobby. So
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we're gonna we're gonna tackle that and talk about that
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as well. But Tim Wermerline, Welcome to Sports Cardination.
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Thanks John, Thanks for having me.
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Yeah, before we get into like going full time and
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what all that entails, like where you know, for you,
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when did the hobby start. I know a lot of
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our stories are similar, but they're also individual as well.
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Absolutely, I started back when I was a kid, open
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basketball cards, baseball cards, football, you know, seeing those cards,
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those funky football cards with a you know, players in
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a Steelers jersey, but it's got like a Miami Dolphins
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logo on there. It says a different different team in
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the back. So I started it. Then I did a
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bunch of pokemona as a kid. I remember trading a
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Holographic Blast toys for a bunch of magic cards and
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my mom was mad at me. So collected as a kid,
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probably up until two thousands or so, and then got
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out of it. I got heavily into sports and then
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took a big gap until COVID, and then you know,
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just ramped up since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty Giant muted,
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Gia muted.
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Yep, there we go. You mentioned Pokemon Pokemon. Is that
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something uh you know, you mentioned doing it as a kid,
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that that genre of the hobby's really exploded and even
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in the last couple of years, is that something you
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for rate back into or not necessarily?
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Yeah, I did, especially during early COVID, I was going
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to I would have family members kind of me about
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their friends that had stuff for sale, so I would
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run out by them and buy cards off them. So yeah,
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I've been buying Pokemon since COVID too. Done, done pretty well, great, great,
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a bunch of it, And yeah.
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What do you think? It's it's a weird question, but
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like you know, when when you got your sports card
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side the Pokemon like I don't. I'm a sports guy,
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so I don't know anything about Pokemon. So if you
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see me at a show, you know, I have people
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submit from my book submission service Pokemon, but I myself
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don't have a clue about it. Was it easier like
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coming back? Like you said in around twenty twenty, was
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it easier to get up the speed with Pokemon or
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sports cards are about the same? How would you answer
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that boom?
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Pokemon was probably a little bit easier starting off with,
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just because I knew the sets I grew up with
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and I knew they were highly collectible. Sports wasn't too bad,
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but I'd say Pokemon was a little bit easier.
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Yeah, And I will tell you this as someone who
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does the SGC bolk grating tim I get more Pokemon
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stuff coming back as counterfeits from submissions than the sports card. Now,
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it happens in both genres, but percentage wise, it's a
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higher percentage on the Pokemon side, is it? Why do
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you think that is? And it's is it something like
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can you tell when you're buying or you know, picking
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up Pokemon? Is it easier? Is it easy to spot
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for you? And why do we see so many, you know,
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counterfeits on the Pokemon.
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So I don't. I don't buy a ton of raw anymore.
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I did early on during COVID, but then I just
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weaned into buying just grated and stuff already. That way,
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I don't have to run into the counterfeits for for
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the most part, I don't run into that. Ask for
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the you know, why we're getting some of the conference,
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I'd say it's probably a little bit easier making a
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counterfeit Pokemon card than a counterfeit sports card. Uh, they're
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all I mean, besides the holographic you know, a paper
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Pokemon card, a paper Pokemon card. Yeah, the hollow you'll
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know the difference with that. Usually there's a specific hollow
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to the like the original hollows. Now we have these
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full arts where the print is all across the card
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and there's usually a texture to it. A lot of
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fakes don't have the texture.
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Yeah you are you like, I know, you said you
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buy more like already graded Pokemon. But if someone was
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to like come over and say, hey, I got some
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raw Pokemon, I'm just trying to get out, Like, are
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you feel pretty confident you could wee through it and
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like of of void dose counterfeit.
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Yeah, for the most part, especially like I said, the
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tent Holy Raffic, those are pretty easy to see. Usually
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the fonts a little bit different, that's another big distinguisher,
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quality of the card, and maybe thinner. Those usually the
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big differences I see with that. Thankfully don't run across
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it too often, so haven't got no scan do on
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that yet.
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Yeah, it's crazy. You know. Even people ask me, like
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even sub and like what do you think, and I'm like,
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I can give you my opinion, right, but until it's grated.
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That's really where the official verdict comes in with, you
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know what with sports cards, especially on the vintage side,
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we got the light task, the pixelation, but then sometimes
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I can I've told people like, this is like ninety
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nine percent fake, and I've had people say, well, you
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know what, for the the eighteen dollars, I'm just gonna
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I'm just gonna send it anyway and let just to
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be sure, and I'm like, that's up to you with
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your A eighteen box, you know what I mean. And
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most of the time in those cases, you know, comes
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back kind of like I thought. So Unfortunately, you know,
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I hate to be the bear bad news but that's
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you know, that's what does happen. You know, I know
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you've gone full time. Well again, we're gonna we're gonna
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deep dive into that a little bit more. But on
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the PC side of things, is there things you don't sell?
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And if so, like what moves your meter there? And
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what do you tend to keep?
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Yeah, so obviously I'm a big Kyler Murray collector. I
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have four four apochy cases full of them. Yeah, I
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have a four roadbox of like top loaded stuff full
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of them. It's like that stuff I just hold on to.
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It started off as an investment piece and then I
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just couldn't get rid of it. Other things I collect
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are on autographs of football m vps. Don't have any
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time radiotograph yet, football MVPs single seasons record holders for stats.
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It's like Chris Johnson, Ladai and Tomilinton, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice.
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All terrible players.
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Yeah, not that hold right, So like those I don't
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have it. I like one of each players. That's my
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goal when I started that. No, no Mahomes out all yet,
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so Brady Mahomes are up there on the to get eventually,
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well with.
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Mahomes, you got time. I mean he's got some years.
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And listen, Brady is still active as far as with
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between broadcasting and commercials, and now he's involved in cards.
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So uh, there'll be more signatures. Maybe not a ton,
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but there'll be more. And again he's young, he's forty
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five years old, so you know he'll be signing more things.
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And uh went went with these m VP autos. Is
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this a certain card you're looking for? You're just trying
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to get one of each?
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No, I just want I just want on card autograph.
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I don't really want to leaf product. Ideally a licensed product. Yeah,
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license on car autograph is the goal. I did just
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get rid of a Roethlisberger auto as a Steelers fan,
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but it was a sticker, so I'm like, I'll upgrade
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that to a non card auto.
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Yeah. Well, and you know I'm a huge Steeler fan.
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And we'll see, uh this liston what you mentioned, you know,
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having four patrications of He's been rumored like that the
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Steelers potentially could acquire him in a trade potentially, Because
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what are your thoughts as a Steelers fan and a
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Kyler Murray collector, would that be something you'd like to
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see you don't really carry either way.
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I mean, that'd be cool. I just want I want
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Kyler out of Arizona. Honestly, I think it'd be fun
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in Pittsburgh, but I kind of want to see him
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more in a dome or southern environment. I don't know
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how he would fare in the cold, cold weather, you know,
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for that portion of the year.
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Yeah, it's you know, it's funny. We we look, look
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what we just watched in the super Bowl, right with
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Sam Donald and it's fifteen uh to. Sometimes a change
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of scenery can make all the difference. So he's still
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not he's not an old guy, still fairly young. So yeah,
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so maybe maybe a change of scenery, a new team
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wherever that might be, is just what the doctor ordered
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for him. So you know, I know a lot of
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people might be a little down on him. I think
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it's too early to go. Look how many people discarded
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Sam Donald, you know, especially the Jets years and kind
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of just wrote, you know, rid him off and said
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he was a bust. And here he you know, we
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just watched him hoist the Lombardi and have an increasible
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and not just you know, it wasn't like he just
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got hot in the playoffs like he was. He was
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good all year so and last year even when was
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wit Minnesota had a great year, they just choose not
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to sign him and thought JJ McCarthy was probably gonna
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be better, and he had. She turned out uh to be.
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They might even have some you know regret there that
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maybe they've hated the wrong call call there, but Seattle
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sort of benefited, uh from that. So you know, when
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quarterbacks are still too young, I think you know, it's
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a waiting to see even even too. I know it's
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a little bit older, but it's not working out of Miami,
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but maybe a new location is again just kind of
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what's needed for for quarterbacks, the resurrect career. We've seen
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it before. We just witnessed it here in the Super Bowl.
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So uh too soon to to sort of bury someone,
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so to speak, uh if you will. Uh. And you said, so,
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you're not like these m VP You don't want any sticker.
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Out of it.
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I have not.
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It's like grape of stickers, but like the player actually
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holding on the card.
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And you say, I get it. I get it. They
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don't bother me as much as they do other people.
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But I get what you said. I fully one hundred percent.
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I get it. I don't necessarily have like a PC
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where I auto collection, But obviously you give me a
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choice between a non card auto and a sticker auto.
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