Feb. 27, 2026

Tim Wermeling "Going Hobby Full-Time" E377

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Tim Wermeling is a collector who recently made the hobby his full time gig. We'll discuss that amongst other topics.


Talking points on this episode may include:


*Beginnings

*His Personal Collection

*Being a competitive Power Lifter

*The decision to go full-time hobby

*Buying slabs over raw

*Where do you do business

*Acquiring inventory

*To price or not to price

*Store eventually?


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Sports Guardations Hobbies, the People Wheely News and Interviews. It's

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your number one soul sports Gardations hobby is the people.

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Sports Gardation. What is up? Everybody? Welcome to Episode three

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seventy seven. Other Sports Cardination podcasts. Congrats not only to

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the women's ice hockey team of the United States, but

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the men's hockey team, both with wins over Canada and

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the gold medal game. Both games went to overtime and

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won in dramatic fashion. And I don't know about you.

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You know, the Olympics comes around only every four years,

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summer and winter, and I'm always I think I like

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the winner ones better to be honest with you, but

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I'm always I was trying to watch as much as

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as I can, and you know, definitely watched a lot

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of hockey, curling, some of the the you know, the

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acrobatic skiing stuff, the looge uh ice skating. Just a

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great event that you know, because we only get it

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every four years. Uh sort of like the World Cup

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in soccer too, right, We look forward to it because

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you know, it's not an every year thing. If it

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was an every year thing, we the bloom would come

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off the row. So watched a lot of outside the

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week off from from school. Uh, so I was on

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automatic vacation, so uh in took a lot of Olympics

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and some great uh some great performances of Lissa Lou

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uh and obviously the two hockey teams just uh uh.

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You know, a lot of a lot of pride comes

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out when when your country does well in the Olympics,

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and the US represented themselves very well. So wanted to

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just kind of start off with that. Uh and uh.

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But today we got a great speaking of great performances,

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we have a great guest on a friend of mine,

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first time on the show though, uh, Tim Wormaline, and

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uh he's recently got into uh not got into the hobby,

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but gone full time with the hobby, buying and selling cars.

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He's all been a collector a while, but making the

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plunge into the full time status. So we're going to tackle,

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you know, some tips, tricks, his approach, why he did it,

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all that fun stuff and whenever someone goes full time

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in a hobby, even though I'm not, maybe I could be,

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but I used to be years ago, but I always

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loved the dynamics involved in kind of picking the brain

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of those people. So when I saw Tim had done that,

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you know a little bit ago, Mike, I gotta have

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to have him on. We gotta we talk about this.

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So that's uh, that's on store for this episode, So

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don't go away, all right. Happy to have the next

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gentleman on the Sports Cardination guest line. I consider him

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a friend. I know I didn't do good this year

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and his football points pool, but previous year I finished

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in the money. I flamed out this year, but he's

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someone who's just went full time in the hobby. So

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we're gonna we're gonna tackle that and talk about that

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as well. But Tim Wermerline, Welcome to Sports Cardination.

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Thanks John, Thanks for having me.

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Yeah, before we get into like going full time and

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what all that entails, like where you know, for you,

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when did the hobby start. I know a lot of

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our stories are similar, but they're also individual as well.

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Absolutely, I started back when I was a kid, open

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basketball cards, baseball cards, football, you know, seeing those cards,

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those funky football cards with a you know, players in

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a Steelers jersey, but it's got like a Miami Dolphins

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logo on there. It says a different different team in

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the back. So I started it. Then I did a

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bunch of pokemona as a kid. I remember trading a

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Holographic Blast toys for a bunch of magic cards and

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my mom was mad at me. So collected as a kid,

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probably up until two thousands or so, and then got

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out of it. I got heavily into sports and then

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took a big gap until COVID, and then you know,

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just ramped up since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty Giant muted,

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Gia muted.

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Yep, there we go. You mentioned Pokemon Pokemon. Is that

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something uh you know, you mentioned doing it as a kid,

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that that genre of the hobby's really exploded and even

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in the last couple of years, is that something you

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for rate back into or not necessarily?

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Yeah, I did, especially during early COVID, I was going

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to I would have family members kind of me about

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their friends that had stuff for sale, so I would

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run out by them and buy cards off them. So yeah,

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I've been buying Pokemon since COVID too. Done, done pretty well, great, great,

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a bunch of it, And yeah.

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What do you think? It's it's a weird question, but

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like you know, when when you got your sports card

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side the Pokemon like I don't. I'm a sports guy,

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so I don't know anything about Pokemon. So if you

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see me at a show, you know, I have people

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submit from my book submission service Pokemon, but I myself

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don't have a clue about it. Was it easier like

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coming back? Like you said in around twenty twenty, was

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it easier to get up the speed with Pokemon or

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sports cards are about the same? How would you answer

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that boom?

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Pokemon was probably a little bit easier starting off with,

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just because I knew the sets I grew up with

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and I knew they were highly collectible. Sports wasn't too bad,

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but I'd say Pokemon was a little bit easier.

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Yeah, And I will tell you this as someone who

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does the SGC bolk grating tim I get more Pokemon

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stuff coming back as counterfeits from submissions than the sports card. Now,

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it happens in both genres, but percentage wise, it's a

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higher percentage on the Pokemon side, is it? Why do

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you think that is? And it's is it something like

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can you tell when you're buying or you know, picking

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up Pokemon? Is it easier? Is it easy to spot

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for you? And why do we see so many, you know,

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counterfeits on the Pokemon.

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So I don't. I don't buy a ton of raw anymore.

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I did early on during COVID, but then I just

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weaned into buying just grated and stuff already. That way,

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I don't have to run into the counterfeits for for

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the most part, I don't run into that. Ask for

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the you know, why we're getting some of the conference,

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I'd say it's probably a little bit easier making a

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counterfeit Pokemon card than a counterfeit sports card. Uh, they're

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all I mean, besides the holographic you know, a paper

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Pokemon card, a paper Pokemon card. Yeah, the hollow you'll

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know the difference with that. Usually there's a specific hollow

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to the like the original hollows. Now we have these

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full arts where the print is all across the card

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and there's usually a texture to it. A lot of

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fakes don't have the texture.

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Yeah you are you like, I know, you said you

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buy more like already graded Pokemon. But if someone was

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to like come over and say, hey, I got some

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raw Pokemon, I'm just trying to get out, Like, are

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you feel pretty confident you could wee through it and

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like of of void dose counterfeit.

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Yeah, for the most part, especially like I said, the

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tent Holy Raffic, those are pretty easy to see. Usually

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the fonts a little bit different, that's another big distinguisher,

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quality of the card, and maybe thinner. Those usually the

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big differences I see with that. Thankfully don't run across

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it too often, so haven't got no scan do on

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that yet.

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Yeah, it's crazy. You know. Even people ask me, like

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even sub and like what do you think, and I'm like,

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I can give you my opinion, right, but until it's grated.

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That's really where the official verdict comes in with, you

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know what with sports cards, especially on the vintage side,

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we got the light task, the pixelation, but then sometimes

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I can I've told people like, this is like ninety

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nine percent fake, and I've had people say, well, you

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know what, for the the eighteen dollars, I'm just gonna

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I'm just gonna send it anyway and let just to

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be sure, and I'm like, that's up to you with

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your A eighteen box, you know what I mean. And

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most of the time in those cases, you know, comes

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back kind of like I thought. So Unfortunately, you know,

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I hate to be the bear bad news but that's

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you know, that's what does happen. You know, I know

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you've gone full time. Well again, we're gonna we're gonna

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deep dive into that a little bit more. But on

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the PC side of things, is there things you don't sell?

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And if so, like what moves your meter there? And

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what do you tend to keep?

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Yeah, so obviously I'm a big Kyler Murray collector. I

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have four four apochy cases full of them. Yeah, I

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have a four roadbox of like top loaded stuff full

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of them. It's like that stuff I just hold on to.

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It started off as an investment piece and then I

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just couldn't get rid of it. Other things I collect

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are on autographs of football m vps. Don't have any

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time radiotograph yet, football MVPs single seasons record holders for stats.

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It's like Chris Johnson, Ladai and Tomilinton, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice.

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All terrible players.

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Yeah, not that hold right, So like those I don't

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have it. I like one of each players. That's my

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goal when I started that. No, no Mahomes out all yet,

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so Brady Mahomes are up there on the to get eventually,

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well with.

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Mahomes, you got time. I mean he's got some years.

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And listen, Brady is still active as far as with

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between broadcasting and commercials, and now he's involved in cards.

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So uh, there'll be more signatures. Maybe not a ton,

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but there'll be more. And again he's young, he's forty

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five years old, so you know he'll be signing more things.

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And uh went went with these m VP autos. Is

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this a certain card you're looking for? You're just trying

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to get one of each?

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No, I just want I just want on card autograph.

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I don't really want to leaf product. Ideally a licensed product. Yeah,

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license on car autograph is the goal. I did just

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get rid of a Roethlisberger auto as a Steelers fan,

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but it was a sticker, so I'm like, I'll upgrade

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that to a non card auto.

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Yeah. Well, and you know I'm a huge Steeler fan.

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And we'll see, uh this liston what you mentioned, you know,

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having four patrications of He's been rumored like that the

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Steelers potentially could acquire him in a trade potentially, Because

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what are your thoughts as a Steelers fan and a

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Kyler Murray collector, would that be something you'd like to

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see you don't really carry either way.

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I mean, that'd be cool. I just want I want

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Kyler out of Arizona. Honestly, I think it'd be fun

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in Pittsburgh, but I kind of want to see him

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more in a dome or southern environment. I don't know

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how he would fare in the cold, cold weather, you know,

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for that portion of the year.

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Yeah, it's you know, it's funny. We we look, look

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what we just watched in the super Bowl, right with

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Sam Donald and it's fifteen uh to. Sometimes a change

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of scenery can make all the difference. So he's still

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not he's not an old guy, still fairly young. So yeah,

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so maybe maybe a change of scenery, a new team

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wherever that might be, is just what the doctor ordered

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for him. So you know, I know a lot of

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people might be a little down on him. I think

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it's too early to go. Look how many people discarded

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Sam Donald, you know, especially the Jets years and kind

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of just wrote, you know, rid him off and said

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he was a bust. And here he you know, we

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just watched him hoist the Lombardi and have an increasible

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and not just you know, it wasn't like he just

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got hot in the playoffs like he was. He was

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good all year so and last year even when was

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wit Minnesota had a great year, they just choose not

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to sign him and thought JJ McCarthy was probably gonna

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be better, and he had. She turned out uh to be.

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They might even have some you know regret there that

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maybe they've hated the wrong call call there, but Seattle

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sort of benefited, uh from that. So you know, when

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quarterbacks are still too young, I think you know, it's

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a waiting to see even even too. I know it's

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a little bit older, but it's not working out of Miami,

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but maybe a new location is again just kind of

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what's needed for for quarterbacks, the resurrect career. We've seen

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it before. We just witnessed it here in the Super Bowl.

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So uh too soon to to sort of bury someone,

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so to speak, uh if you will. Uh. And you said, so,

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you're not like these m VP You don't want any sticker.

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Out of it.

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I have not.

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It's like grape of stickers, but like the player actually

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holding on the card.

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And you say, I get it. I get it. They

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don't bother me as much as they do other people.

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But I get what you said. I fully one hundred percent.

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I get it. I don't necessarily have like a PC

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where I auto collection, But obviously you give me a

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choice between a non card auto and a sticker auto.

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That's an easy that's a layup right, always would pick

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the on card auto. But you know, one of my

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things I always say on this show is you don't

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have to like sticker autos, but in many cases without them,

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you probably wouldn't get certain players potentially signing cards. So

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it's sort of the you gotta live with that, so

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to speak. And in some cases I get you know,

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give me a choice of the two on card auto,

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you know, eight days a week, but sometimes, you know,

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the sticker audo sort of the sacrifice we make for

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just having that player available in a product for you know,

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You are listening to the Sportscard Nation podcast.

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Your Competitive Powerlifter as well. For you, when did that? Like,

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when did you know that was something that you wanted

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to do?

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So I started playing the football when I was twelve,

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and my family's not tall, so I'm like, well, I

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can only get bigger, stronger, and faster. So I started

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looking weights then and I've always high school of college,

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always the strongest kid out there, you know, even starting

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their alignement and everything at two hundred pounds. And then

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I got done playing football in college in twenty twelve,

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and then I took a two year ye two or

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three year gap of not competing in anything. And it

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was twenty January twenty fifteen was my first party meet.

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And so I've been doing doing that competitively for the

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past eleven years now and been to a bunch of nationals.

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Did in IPL Worlds a couple of years ago. Yeah,

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it's been been a journey. It's not easy.

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No, no, And I've seen some of your videos on

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your social media. God bless you. I will you never.

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I can lift a little bit, but not anywhere along

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those Plus I'm way too old anyway. I played football

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as well in high school and then I went on

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the coaching varsity football and it's a big part as

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you well know, ten minutes a big part of football.

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We always like to have our kids, uh in the

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weight room as much as we could, and you know,

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make that part of our sort of regular routine as

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much and then encourage kids even in the off season,

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like stick with it if you can. And we always,

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you know, at the high school I was at, always

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sort of made the weight room available even even in

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the off season.

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So actually, how I met one of your buddies, Steve

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runs Slam Museum.

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Maybe yeah, yeah, Steve Sousa, Yeah.

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Yeah, he I had I had your hobby quick Hit

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shirt on in the gym and he goes, you got cards.

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I'm like I do, He goes, you know, John, I do.

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Small World.

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That's awesome.

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When you told me that story, I thought that was insane,

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Like what is the what are the odds?

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Right?

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Yeah?

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So how about you that like how much your how

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much time a week do you devote to like lifting

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and training and all that stuff.

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The lifting suspect three or four days a week for

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about a couple of hours. Yeah, so it's not it's

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not terrible.

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Yeah. How much traveling do you do? Like how far

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do you go with competing.

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Depends. So I'm from Wisconsin and the meat director that

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runs USPA in Wisconsin, I like going up and doing

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his meets for the fact of how he runs them

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and the people that he is helping him. So that's

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what's six seven hours away to go to usually his meets.

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But I mean I've been to Vegas, did when you're

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in Saint Louis my love with Wisconsin, been to Florida

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for meat. Yeah, you know, I gotta fly. I gotta fly.

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But if I'm finally do that every two or three years,

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that for that far away.

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Yeah, and I know this is not the reason you

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do it. I'm sort of intrigued by this. Obviously, you

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gotta do. There is travel. There is expensive if if

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you're if you're successful and you win and play, you know,

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I don't know how that can it be profitable or

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or not not necessarily.

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So the money's coming in from the best of the

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best that it's not me. I'm pretty good. But they

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had an event called the Sheffield at the end of

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January beginning of February, and that's where the big prize

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money is at. There's a kid that was like two

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two week class to blow me. He totaled over almost

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three hundred pounds more than I do and he won

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the Sheffield and just freaking an athlete. I did win

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money one time. I did what was it regionals? I

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did regionals one year and I won the best deadliftter

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award at that competition, won five hundred bucks. So not

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a lot of money.

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So for you, it's more like you just it's a passion.

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You love it. You love to do it. How long

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do you think? You know, we've seen guys like dude,

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you know, I'll get and you're more the expert in

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this category than me. But I've seen like po where

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guys are doing this into their you know, their their

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older agees. Do you have like have you ever thought

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about like I'm gonna do it till this point or

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is it just when your body tells you, like all right, Tim,

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you know that's uh, We're good.

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My buddy's telling me right now to stop. But I'll

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probably I'll probably never quit fully. I'll still compete to

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some extent. It's something I can't give up, that competitive

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nature in me. I'm always grinding. I think that's one

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reason why the hobby is doing I'm doing now is nice,

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but no, it's I'll do it till I'm dead. Probably.

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Yeah. Do they have is it? Do they have classes

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by age? So you're competing against you know, you're not

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You're not forty something competing against someone in their twenties.

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Yeah, so after after I'm in the submasters right now,

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so some submasters thirty five or thirty nine. Then after

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that it's every basically every decade after that. Yeah, for

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some masters eight the messers one messas, two messas, three,

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so forth a class.

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All right, so you're a Steeler fan. I'm a Steeler fan,

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but you're I'm from New York City. Uh, you know,

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I get asked that how does the kid from New

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York City become a Steeler fan? For me, I'm older

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than you. It was that whole me and Joe Green's

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my dude, and that coke commercial. And I was a kid.

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I didn't like the Giants or Jets. And I'm making

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the story shorter because I talked about it on the

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show on numerous occasions. And I didn't like the Jets

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or Giants, and I just said, the kid in the mean,

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in the mean Joe Green Coke commercial was the same

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age as me at the same time. We had a

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resemblance to each other. I just gravitated towards that. I'm

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not gonna lie. They were winning at that time, and

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you know, I'm five six years old. I jumped aboard

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and I've never looked back. And even in the eighties

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when we were losing a lot, I never jumped ship again.

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You mentioned you're from Wisconsin. Why not the Packers? Right?

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How did the Steelers where? How did the Steelers fall

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into place?

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So I grew a Packer fan. When Packers lost the

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Super Bowl the Broncos, I bowled my eyes out because

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I'm like, no, Packers can't lose. I was what seven

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or eight something like that then going through high school

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and it would have been Roethlisberger's rookie year. I played linebacker.

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I saw how aggressive their defense was, fell in love

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with it, and I've been to a fan ever since

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was that twos and fours and five whatever it was,

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so it just never never looked back.

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I got you, and listen, you're not in Wisconsin like

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you said, so like you you know you're you're in

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the St. Louis right yep, So yeah, you know that

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Saint Louis doesn't really even have they don't have football

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right now. So yeah, I'll let you go. Not that

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I could stop you anyway, but I always get it.

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I always love those kind of stories, like how does

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that happens? You know what I mean? When you're from

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one area but you have another team you for that's uh,

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that's always in I always find that interesting, how that uh,

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whether it's a player, an incident, whatever the case uh

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may may be. So you I had.

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I had a pal Matt big poster on my wall,

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four six foot poster. I had him Erlacker and Ray Lewis.

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Yeah, say that's now, you ain't gonna find any Red

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Lewis stuff.

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And you see how I was a linebacker, So now

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was like, yeah, well I get it.

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I get it, and I was I was in high school.

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I was a d N on the defensive side of

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the bars. But I get Ray Lewis to a like

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to a stealer fever. You get it, you know what

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I mean. I just don't do it, but I won't

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tell you He's not great lying if you didn't respect

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the greatness of uh of Ready. So your full time

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I always love to hear kind of the stories behind

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the stories, like how long has it been? What? What

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pushed you?

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Like?

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What was that? What made you jump into going full time?

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Where do you want to start? So when COVID hit,

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I was ripping, man, what was this I started with?

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I ripped a lot of twenty twenty prison draft pick football, yeah,

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or the bunch of that show just pop the boxes

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of the time. But started ripping that stuff, and then

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you know, cutting stuff, selling stuff here and there. You

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had the Joe Burrow stuff twenty twenty doing ridiculous money,

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you know, selling base cards for twenty thirty bucks. And

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I just enjoyed the whole process with that. And then

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then once fast forward a couple of years, we moved

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from Kirksville to Saint Louis and then wife wanted me

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to try to stay home if I could with the job.

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And then I'm like, I'm try to jump jump in

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with both both feet here and see how see how

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I do? And so I did that in June, and

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then ever since, I just ramped everything up, buying what

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I could, selling as quick as I could. Don't like

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holding stuff, especially the market nowadays, things changed so quickly.

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You just you know, you don't like. It's like holding

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the bag. I see it happen all the time. I

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have a I have a Herbert red and short print

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prison here and if I had that a little too

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long now.

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But again, he's one of those guys, Tim, I don't

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know if you agree with this, like I don't. I

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think he gets a bad rap. I think he's an

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excellent quarterback. He just needs a little more around him,

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you know. And his line is help out this year.

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And if you're a football guy, and I know you are,

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and I am, I'm not necessarily a Chargers fan. When

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I watch enough football, and he's just running for his life,

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and that dude's out there with his hand bandaged up,

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playing like he's he's a warrior. So I think they

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fixed their line some of the line issues, you know.

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I know Keenan Allen came back, he's probably almost done.

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I think they got to get a little, you know,

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I know they got Quintin Johnson, I got one of

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our guys here from Syracuse or Rondi Gatson as as

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a tight end. I think they know need another receiver

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or too. I think they got a great back in

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Amari Hampton. They're just a few pieces away. And he's

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still you know, he got m VP boats this year

472
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:36.160
even even you know, so yeah, he's legit, and so

473
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.720
I don't it's you know, I think he's when all

474
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.559
Saiden Don barn An injury or something like that, he's

475
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.279
he's probably gonna have a Hall of Fame type you know,

476
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.160
whether he wins a ring or not remains to be seen.

477
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.960
But now he's got it. I think he's got one

478
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:54.400
of the best coaches in football there that that just

479
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:57.240
came over RESI. So give a little time, I think

480
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.960
they'll they'll write that thing and he'll be back in

481
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:07.160
the forefront of m VP conversations, especially in the quarterback class.

482
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:11.920
So I'm not necessarily a Chargers guy, but I actually

483
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:17.039
like Justin IRBTT. I'll take him in Pittsburgh just don't

484
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:20.920
want him anymore. But uh uh so, yeah, I get

485
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:24.039
is it? Is it? What when you decided to do.

486
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:28.559
Did you have breaking up a little bit? There we

487
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:30.559
get in there, now there we go.

488
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.319
Yeah. So when when you decided to kind of take

489
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.319
this plunge, did you did you have to really acquire

490
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.160
more inventory or or did you have enough sort of

491
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.279
built up to jump right in?

492
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:44.799
H No, I had had a built inventory up. Like

493
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.680
I said, I don't like holding onto stuff, so I

494
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:50.359
was just buying what I could and using funds we

495
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:55.079
had and sitting around. I do a lot on Twitter,

496
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.000
a lot on any day, probably more on Twitter if

497
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:01.160
I got or X what we're gonna call it, and

498
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:02.680
that's where majority of my sills are.

499
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.519
Yeah, when you buy, how do you acquire? Is it

500
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.240
always in person or not all the time? No?

501
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.920
Actually, I'd say probably majority is buying buying off X

502
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:17.079
probably sixty seventy percent off of people online and other

503
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:19.799
what on at shows.

504
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.400
Yep. And I know you're most of what you're buying

505
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.000
is already like graded, they are already in slabs, so

506
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.559
there's no guess work per se.

507
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.440
Yeah, And one of the reasons for that is there's

508
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:35.599
a little bit more consistent data. I don't go about

509
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:40.000
quality of a raw card, and yeah, I can type

510
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.039
the cert in the card letter and it pops everything

511
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:42.640
up easily.

512
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.000
Yeah, well you know this, h And I'm a dealer

513
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.279
like you probably know, right. You know raw cards, Buying

514
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.559
a row card is can be risky, right can you know?

515
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:56.680
Especially if it's not in person. Even even more risky.

516
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.200
People can show you a picture of one thing and

517
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:03.720
maybe send a different version of it. Where graded card

518
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.599
obviously has a certain number it should match when you

519
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.319
get it as well as the grade. Can there be

520
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:16.240
fake slab, sure, but less of that than fake raw cards.

521
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:20.559
I think that's a safe assumption. And again even for me,

522
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.079
buying that shows right to buy raw cards, which I

523
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.119
do do. I don't want to say I don't do that,

524
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.319
but it's even more time consuming because before I buy it,

525
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.039
I'm gonna I want to take a better look at

526
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.359
it and that sort of thing, So it takes a

527
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.200
little more time, and then chances are you you know,

528
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.359
if it passes that eye test, you're gonna want to

529
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.839
grade it anyway yourself, where if you buy it sort

530
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:46.039
of graded already, it's already sort of baked in there

531
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.920
if you will. All right, That concludes part one of

532
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:55.319
my conversation with Tim a great guy, smart guy, strong guy,

533
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.519
now full time in the Hobby and I hope you

534
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:03.240
come back next week for part two of our Great Conversation.

535
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We're gonna have some closing thoughts our Hobby is the

536
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People Announcer of the Week and wrap up this week's episode.

537
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Great Time for Our Hobby is the People Announcer of

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the Week.

539
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.559
This is Zach Bern, one of many Hobbyists who returned

540
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during COVID. Thanks to John for steering me in the

541
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.880
right direction, and remember the Hobby is the People.

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If you'd like to be the Hobby is the People

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Announcer of the Week to a one four MP three

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