Tony De Marzio returns "Hobby Wrap Up 2025" E364

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Spawns Guardation. What is up, everybody? Welcome to episode three

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sixty four of Sports Coordination. I hope everyone had a

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great Thanksgiving a couple of days ago with family and friends.

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And you know it's a time of year, the holiday season, right,

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we're getting ready for Christmas or what how they youl

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may celebrate, but I think Thanksgiving really, at least for me,

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kind of ramps it up right and gets us thinking

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about the season, right, the how they winner fe live

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here in the Northeast, and you know, I'm not a

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big inner guy, but I do like Thanksgiving and Christmas,

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which you know, can't do nothing about it takes place

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in winter. So hopefully how they was a good one

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and a fun one. And glad the hobby listening to

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the show, and you know, Thanksgivings the time to reminisce

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for what we were thankful for and appreciate and kind

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of give thanks and think about it right, and thankful

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for my friendship with my guests on this week's show,

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Who returns for part two of our conversation, and that's

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Tony Demarzio out of the Philly area. And you know

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when we talk when he's been on the show, it's

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really sometimes I think we forget we're even recording, and

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we're just throwing the hobby, throwing some topics around, covering

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the hobby and it's a lot of fun. So I

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hope you enjoyed part one. If not, go back and

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listen to it. And this is part two. All right, folks,

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welcome to part two of my conversation with my good

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friend Tony Demarzio, as we wrap up sort of the

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year that was in the Hobby. We're gonna start off

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here with part two. I'm gonna talk about sort of

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being hesitant to post some of my collection on social media,

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maybe not for reasons you would think, so I'll tease

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you with that, but here you go Part two with

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Tony Demarzio. I'm even like I'm and I know I've

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told you this before, I'm sort of cautious of how

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many cards I post because I don't want to come

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across as like you know, like oh, John's showing another

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you know, four figure card again, and to some four

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figure cards like I don't even want to. That's beneath me,

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right and for me, that's sort of like my highest level.

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So ever, like you said, everyone's got a different sort

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of level budget, discretionary income, and you know, I think

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we have to be careful, we have to be cognizant.

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I don't want to say careful. I think we have

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to be cognizant of that. I know. I told you

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a story where some of my content is doing a

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review of a show I set up at, and the

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first one of the first ones I ever did where

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I did that sort of content, I actually disclosed how

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much money I made at the show. That had a

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gentleman fairly politely email me and said, you know, John,

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I'm on a small budget. You know, if I buy

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a thirty forty dollars card, that's a big deal to me.

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And you're throwing around you know, hey, you made so

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many four figures at the show, and it sort of

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rubbed me. I like you, but it sort of rubbed

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me the wrong way hearing you talk in those terms.

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And obviously I didn't do that to make that person

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feel bad or feel lesser, but it wasn't really until

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I got that email out from this person that I

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didn't even think about that maybe could be perceived as such, right,

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and then I felt bad. I actually responded back and like, hey,

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that wasn't my intent to make you feel inadequate, Like

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the hobbies are for turning no matter what your budget level.

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You know, I'll answer any question or help you out

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any time you want. I didn't, you know, And so

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I actually apologize. Some would say, well, you don't really

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owe an apology, but listen, he felt bad after hearing

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what I said, and you know, I don't want that

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to be the case if I can prevent it. So

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I apologize kind of tried to explain that that wasn't

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my intent. It wasn't to make him feel lesser or

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or lesser part of the hobby. But it also taught

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me the lesson I learned from it, and I always

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try to learn things as we all do, or hopefully

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that we all do. Tony's like when I did future

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sort of show reviews, I stopped like I'd say the

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show was excellent or I had one of my best

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shows financially, but I left off. I stopped giving out

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figures or saying how much I intake, And you know,

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just to prevent that from happening again. And I just thought,

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if one person is emailing me saying that rubbed him

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the wrong way, how many didn't email and and it

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still rubbed him, you know, the wrong way. So I

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just didn't want to upset people. And again that's a

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double sided coin, right I I stopped giving out those figures.

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It's subsequent like Carson once, you know, I think it

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was yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But it's funny because I

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stopped doing it. And then every once in a while

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I'll get someone who will email email me or DM

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me Tony and say, hey, why why aren't you saying

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what you're saying? It was a great show? How much

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money did you make? And then I respond back to

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that person saying, listen, some people, well don't want to

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hear that or it rubs them the wrong way. So

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I stop doing and you know, most people will respond back, Okay,

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I get that makes sense. And every once in a while

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someone will respond back and say, well tell me in

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the email. I'm not gonna tell any buddy, And I

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still don't do that because I just don't want, you

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know what I mean, They could say that and you

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say what you make and then they'd be like, oh,

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you know what I mean whatever, So it's neither to

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me at the end of the day, Writ's neither here

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nor there. If I said, hey, the show was great,

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was great. If I say the show was not great,

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didn't do well, then you know it is it is

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what it is, you know, And then I don't just talk.

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It's a car as we all know or should know, right,

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And I know you know this, Tony, Right, A car

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show isn't just about the dollar signs, Right, It's about

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the people you meet and see again and talk to

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and I come to my table that I know, and

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those kinds conversations, or acquiring a card. Even as a

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dealer you buy cards. So it's it's it shouldn't just

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be about how much money you make. Sure is that important?

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Sure if you say, if you're a dealer and you

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set up at a show, that is important to say,

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to say, it's not as being disingenuous. But I don't

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want that to be the end all be all, especially

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when it comes to content creation. I don't want it

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to be just about dollars and cents. To me, you know,

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I got into this hobby and I'm going off on

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a little soapbox here. But I got into this hobby

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as a seven year old kid, Tony, and I didn't

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care what stuff was worth then, right. It was only

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as I matured through the hobby, acquired more cards, start

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working at a card store, start doing shows on my

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own for the first time, where that became more uh

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you know, important, or more of a part of the equation,

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if you will. But even then and even now, it's

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not the end all be all, you know, I don't.

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I'd still do cards even if I wasn't doing card shows.

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I'd still do cards if I wasn't doing a podcast.

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So I you know, well, you know, is money an

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important part of the hobby. To say no would would

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not be truthful, right, But I don't want it to

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be the focal point or the only point. So I've

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stopped giving out some of those numbers or even when

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I say, hey, I got this card, I don't always,

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you know, uh say what it costs me or what

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I paid And like, you know, you know this just

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as well as someone wants to find out, they can.

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In today's tracking and analytics, people can find out what

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someone paid for a card if they if they're dying

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to know. Uh, and so I don't. I don't make

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dollar signs of focal point is are a topic sometimes. Sure,

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I just don't want it to be a huge part

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of what I do or I talk about. But for some,

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for some, it's a bigger it's a bigger quotient, if

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you will, or a bigger part of what they do.

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And unfrankly, there are some people and who are self

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admittedly would tell you that's really the only reason they

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do it now and again it's America, right, you don't

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necessarily have to apologize for that. But for me, that's

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not my you know, modus operandeal sort of kind of

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your thoughts on sort of that rant that I just

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want to sow.

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For me personally, I think ninety five percent of my

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collection would be considered an investment because regardless for they're

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spending ten dollars three dollars on a card in a thousand,

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you don't want to throw the money away, so, you know,

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so for five ten percent, I want to have fun,

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you know, with the gels or the occasional Ben Simmons

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or Jeff George Card. Uh, you know, I'm picking up

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some art. A lot of you know, a lot of

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good people in the hobby are doing art now, custom

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work of you know, based on cards or ballplayers, and

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they put them in different types of card designs.

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So but yeah, you know, we don't want to you know,

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we don't.

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Want to buy cards and then ultimately they lose their value,

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which you know could happen at any time. So for

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folks that consider cards as an asset, I totally get that.

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For folks who consider cards as just a strict collectible

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with no monetary value, I understand that too. And for

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folks like me who do my hybrid approach, I just

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try to always stay cognizant of how much spending and what,

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you know, because it's like what we talked about on

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the Mike Burker stage at the National it's for me,

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it's about having an exit strategy. I learned that when

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I was able to you know, picked up a Crackerjack

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card which I showed here on the first time I

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was on the show. I was able to convert you know,

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sixteen Mickey Manor and to Michael Jordan's and I Clemente Autimi,

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and I was able to get a couple of cards

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from that, So, you know, downsized dollars since probably stayed the.

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Same, but you know, footprint.

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Of my of my collection got a little bit smaller.

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So you know, if if I bought something that went

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down to value, then I never would have been able

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to do that. So I just think it's definitely cognizant

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to use applications like card Ladder, PCP, you know, to

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keep track of your collection. And most importantly, as we

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spoke about offline and last time I was on, just

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make sure you're spending money that you do have. You know,

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don't take credit card loans and other things to buy.

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Cards, because that's when you end up having.

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A situation like the margin call, so to speak, because

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sooner or later that credit card bill comes due.

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You know, person always want to be paid back.

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So yeah, and it's so easy, right, it's so easy

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with listen, and I've done it. I'm a full disclosure

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and full transmit. You know, I talked about it on

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this very show that at one point I had a

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ten thousand dollars debt in opening wax and buying cases

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and opening boxes and it's gone now. I paid it off,

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but it taught me a lesson, right, don't do that again.

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It's why I don't open a ton of wax anymore,

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Tony number one. I'm a heavy vintage anyway. But even

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if I wasn't, that taught me. It's it's like the

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Pavlow's experiment, Right, how many times are you gonna go

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into alley and get whacked over the head to your

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stuff till the light bulb goes on and you say, like, hey,

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like every time I go into sale, I get whacked

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in the head and it hurts. I'm gonna stop doing it,

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and for opening lots of wax became you know, but

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it took ten thousand dollars lesson to learn it. Thankfully,

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you know that's paid off. But I and you know,

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someone said, well, why did? It's sort of embarrassing, John,

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aren't you embarrassed? I'm not really embarrassed about I'm not

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proud of it either, but I used it as an

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example that you can go down that rabbit hole and

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not even realize it until you one day you wake

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up and you get that bill. You know it's easy.

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And this isn't even just a sports card thing. This

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is anything you buy with a credit card. Right, you

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forget right, you're just running your car through a machine.

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You're just putting the numbers in on a computer screen

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and ordering something, and then you have the item and

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you're like, man, I didn't even pay, Like I didn't

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pay any money for this, but like you said, that

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bill still shows up eventually, yeh.

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And you know, yeah, that's interesting.

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Now.

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I was gonna say, because you talk about the wax,

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but even I think you mentioned how we're both vintage collectors.

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That's what our main focus is. And even with vintage cards.

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Now we're seeing piece and valleys like take that Baltimore

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News ruth uh you know, sold for seven million round

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it at one auction, and then it gets sent to

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another auction house and it sells for three million dollars less.

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It makes so not everything is safe.

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And you know, Heaven's forbid that person or company whoever

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bought that card at seven million and they had to

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take that three million dollar loss. I mean, imagine they

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had a loan against that. So not only are you

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taking a loss on a card, but you're also getting

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a buzz cut on the interest rate and everything because.

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The loan is still dope. So hopefully, you know, folks

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are not doing that.

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So I think a lot of folks in the hobby

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are smart and just you know, because it's like anything else,

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profits are not guaranteed long term.

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I think it's.

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Fine, but it's like, and I'm a sports better, uh

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you know again, full transparency. I I'm not a big better, right,

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I'll bet, I'll bet a little bit each week, especially

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especially I'm more of an NFL guy. And here's the thing.

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I don't go to the casino or play blackjack or

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roulette or crap or anything like that. But I feel

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with like sports betting, because I'm a sports fan, right

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that you have a working knowledge, right you know, hey,

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this person's heard, or this guy's not playing, this guy's good,

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or you know, you look at how they match up.

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And I will say this, and I don't want to

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I don't want to sound conceited when I say that

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I generally win more money than I lose. Now that

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varies from week to week. And when I'm saying money,

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it's not thousands. We're not talking thousands of dollars here, right,

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And it just gives me an interest on each game,

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right to you sort of have a dog in the fight,

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whether it's a five dollars bet, ten dollars bet or

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twenty dollars bet, and that's generally what I'm talking about here, right,

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But there's no guarantees. There's no guarantees. Even with that,

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as much as I think I know the NFL and

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lines and you know, overs and others and money, as

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much as I think, maybe more than the average guy,

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there's some weeks you lose, right, And so same thing

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with cards is no matter matter what where your knowledge

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base is, you know, I probably would have lost on

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you know, I wasn't buying the Baltimore News grouth tony,

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but that did. When that happened, that surprised me that

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it didn't bring at least kind of what it did

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the last auction, right, And and I think the bigger

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surprise was how how many million less that it went for,

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not even you know, it's one thing to go for

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less from seven million to three, but you know it

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didn't go from seven million to six or five and

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a half. It went from seven million to three. So,

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like you said, they're no guarantees. And if you're buying

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that card on a credit card or a loan, you

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know you lost, right, And that's a big hit. That's

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a way bigger hit. Obviously than my ten thousand dollars

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wax step on a credit card and so, and I

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don't care, I don't care who you are. Four million

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bucks is a out of money, and so a good

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point by you. Go ahead.

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So you got me thinking.

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So I think we need sports coordination lock line, and

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we'll do it in the same way that Jim Feist

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used to have his infomercials in the nineteen eighties and

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early nineties. And you can give it out streets, Parley's

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sucker bets, teasers, ties, don't give me any ideas, and.

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Y's sensitive guy. If I even if I'm not doing that,

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I'm joking here. But even if I was to do

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that and then someone emails me like, hey, I took

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your advice and I lost, I would honestly feel terrible.

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Yeah yeah, then not only, but not only can you

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offer it on the games, but then you can offer

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on cards like.

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Will Greer versus Kyler Murray. You know which was better?

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Right now, neither Will Grier is done and Caler Murray

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is hurt slash being benched. So look at this guy.

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You see this guy here, I got I'm showing a

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boom in Tiffany sorry, Tops Tiffany nineteen ninety Jeff George.

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He's got one of the greatest arms in football history,

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not one of the career he had a gun. Yeah,

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that was back in the day. Man, people were killing

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for for Jeff. Yeah. So there's the you know, there's

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the cautionary tale, right that. You know, you mentioned Jayden

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Daniels earlier, right, who I think is a great quarterback.

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But now you know, and in a game that was

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a blowout, you know, dan Quinn left him in. He

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got a serious injury. You know, he should be fine

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like after you know, he rehabs and comes back probably

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next year, but you don't know what if he's a

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different quarterback from the after the injury. You just like

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that stuff. You feel terrible. I don't even care. Like

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I'm not a Redskins are Commanders, I'm not.

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I still call it Stargers San Diego. So it's a little.

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Yeah, so I'm not a fan of the Commanders. But like,

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by all, everything I hear about him is a great kid,

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great great guy. And you don't want to see you

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don't want to see that, and you hope everything's okay,

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and uh, you know, but that's a caution everything right,

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We've seen this. We've seen this before. People blow out

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knees and different things and and even even with Tommy

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John surgeries rights as they've got that down to a science,

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but sometimes guys are not the same even after that surgery. Yeah,

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so there's no guarantees and that's you know, you gotta

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be careful.

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eight hundred eighty two nine fifty five sixty one.

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Let's go. You are listening to the Sports cod Nation podcast.

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Speaking of at Baltimore's News roof, Let's piggy a bit,

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a little bit back off of that. Do you think

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that's an indicator maybe where the vintage market is going,

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or you think it's just an anomaly boo.

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Cards of that price are in a whole different league

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of its own.

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So we're talking, you know, Wagner high grade fifty two tops,

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Mantle fifty one, Boom and Mantle high grade.

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Apparently now you got.

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Lebron cards going near that high you know, the shine

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index or whatever they're calling that. I think it's a

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cautionary tale of a person has a tremendous card and

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auction houses like big cards, maybe not as much as before,

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but and you know, when you're a seller.

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A consigner, I should say, and you have a card at.

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That magnitude, you could probably wheel and deal and negotiate rates.

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Reserves whether hidden or known, and maybe.

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You can even get like what you think is a

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you know, lowest price like you would accept like when

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Ken Golden had, you know, when he tried on his

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TV show tried to get you know, Wagner at a

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certain price, and he guaranteed a price. He also guaranteed

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a price on a Jackie Robinson jersey during the first season.

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Well maybe, you know, if it's such a special item,

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you can guarantee your price and if the bidders don't

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get it, maybe.

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The auction house buys it.

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You know, I have no idea, but I know Heritage

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had a problem seventy nine eighty OPG box that went unpaid,

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so they had to fu you know, they had to

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you know, pay it and then and then relictit again something.

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Yeah, who knows. But cars like that, it's a whole

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different ballgame. That's like the major leagues.

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Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Well, coming down a

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home here, Yeah, let's talk about something. I try to

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be like this. I know you're like this, Like you your

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person that is very thankful someone helps you out or

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does you with solid Uh, you make sure to say

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thank you or acknowledge it, right, I do that.

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You know.

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I'm fortunate that I have a platform, you know, even

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writing for for Sports Collectors Digest. You know, my editor said, hey,

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the first piece, introduce yourself to everyone, like, hey, I'm

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going to be writing this monthly column. This is who

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I am, and even say to do this but one

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of the things, if you read that first piece I did,

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I literally made sure that like anyone that's coming up,

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you know, from my grandfather who bought me my first

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pack of nineteen seventy nine Tops baseball, to my to

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a store owner named Rudy who gave me my first job,

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if you will, in the hobby, working at his card store,

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and then all the way and on up. I made

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sure to acknowledge all those people when someone does something,

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even now, you know, I always try to thank you know,

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thank them publicly and even privately, and usually both. And

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it's just how I was brought up and raised that,

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you know, Yeah, we can work hard and do things

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ourselves and achieve things ourselves and accomplish things ourselves, but

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you know it's not all that. Sometimes you need a

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little help, need a little lucky even sometimes. And so

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I'm always appreciati of that if someone helps me, you know,

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find something. When I talk about, you know, the Aaron

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Rookie which is behind me that I bought, you know,

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Danny Black was instrumental in sending me that link. Right.

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We all have friends in the hobby that do different things,

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and I'm always cognizant to acknowledge that and let them

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know like, hey, you didn't have to do that, and

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you did. Thank you. Everyone knows. I want everyone to

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know what kind of person you are. And I think

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most people are good like that. I know you are.

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I try to be. I feel like I check those boxes.

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But sometimes that's a lost start, right, and sometimes you

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don't see that or maybe you don't you know, get acknowledged.

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You know. I do a lot of rats, you know

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where I'll just send to people no strings attached, right,

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And I don't do don't get me wrong, I don't

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do that to get like, hey, you know, when I

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send them the cards, there's there's a note in there

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like enjoy the hobby, thanks for listening to the show,

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what YadA, YadA, YadA. I don't say hey, publicly post

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that thank you, like I don't. I don't, you know,

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go for that. A lot of times they they might

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don't post a you know, a picture like thanks J

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John at sports Carnation, he sent this to me. But

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it doesn't happen all the time, right, And I'm not

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gonna sit here and say that when it doesn't happen.

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It's not a little disappointing they won't, but it won't

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also stop me from continuing to do it either. It

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won't be to that level. But you know, I think

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most people do. But there is that group right that

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it's not you know, maybe like me or you, or

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like most people. And sometimes and sometimes maybe it's even

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innocent enough where they just forget or they think they did.

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You know, you're kind of thoughts on you know, you know,

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we talk about community, right, that's a two way street.

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Just some of your thoughts when it comes to you know,

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acknowledging when someone helps you or does something for you

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or gives you something. You know, you know, there's a

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Robinson behind me. That was you know, a custom Robinson

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and Logan Ward said that to me, and I made

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a public post and that's what I think. That's the

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least you can do in my mind. And sometimes it

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doesn't always happen, I guess, is what I'm saying. And

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when it does that, it's it's too bad. Kind of you.

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You weigh in here if you will.

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Yeah, I think it doesn't.

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Think it's can never heard thanking someone, whether that person,

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I mean you're another person, well, whether the person wants

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to think publicly or privately or you know, but like

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you know, when we were talking about tickets earlier, about

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grading twenty five, for me has been a lot about relationships,

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you know, new friendships.

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So I met quite a few people.

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Turns out one of my good friends now I consider

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him a friend even outside of the hobby, because we

474
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.799
could talk about it anything. He works at the same

475
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.440
company I do, different state, but it's like, you know, cool,

476
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:17.160
I mean really great, and you know, helped me find

477
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.240
a Mike Schmidt five hundred home run ticket signed.

478
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:24.359
My son does rowing. This is his second.

479
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:27.519
Year, and I have a nineteen thirty six Olympics from

480
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:31.720
August fourteenth, Berlin. Uh, when the boys in the boat

481
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:34.359
you know, won the gold medal. Showing that ticket here

482
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.640
and it's almost a full ticket to concept.

483
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:39.319
Just someone tore.

484
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.599
Off the corner. I guess that's like, you know, the proof.

485
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.839
I guess that's a stub and that's pretty cool if

486
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.039
that fundant enough.

487
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:48.599
Tom gave me a heads.

488
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.799
Up for a June eighth, nineteen eighty nine Phillies ticket

489
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.599
that's autographed and it's a.

490
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.799
It's a game of gelts hit the two home.

491
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:01.119
Runs and he was referred to and he was referred

492
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.240
to his baby Ruth in the auction, I mean India.

493
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.480
He was referred to as baby Ruth in that game

494
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:09.079
by the announcers before he hit the home run, like

495
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.200
here comes baby Ruth up the bat and then he

496
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.640
hits a home run and the Phillies, uh, you know,

497
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.599
ended up winning after being down ten to nothing, and

498
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.599
Jim Rooker ended up having to walk back from Philadelphia

499
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:24.359
because that's what he said, if we lose the game

500
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:28.079
the Pirates, I'll walk back. And couldn't do it after

501
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:29.880
that game obviously, but he did it a couple of

502
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.279
months later and took him like two weeks or something.

503
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:33.559
You know.

504
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.680
Then you know other friends I have made, as you know,

505
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:45.240
I'm the Clemente collector and Sky He's on Instagram, Sky Paintings.

506
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.200
He does wonderful work, like here's a Clemente for mayor

507
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.240
and instead of saying Bob Clementy, it says it says

508
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.240
Roberto clement And you know that he did a Eddie Goodell,

509
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:01.240
you know, after modeled after fifty two tops and one

510
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.799
of my favorite cards that I probably owned is the

511
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.839
map Lasue from thirty three Galley, which came out in51200:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.799



thirty four here's that little art piece of art that51300:29:12.839 --> 00:29:13.960



he made.51400:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.880



And you know, he also helped me out.51500:29:17.640 --> 00:29:20.839



He was at the Boston Shriners show and he saw51600:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.039



Joe woodcard and I said, you know, even before I said, hey,51700:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.319



if you see Joe woodcard, just let me know, give51800:29:27.319 --> 00:29:29.319



me heads that. He texted me, yeah, I need that,51900:29:29.680 --> 00:29:31.960



And as it turned out, it was from Stan Locke.52000:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.359



And I know Stan from the Philly Show and the National.52100:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.759



He's uh, he's the he's the dealer who bought the52200:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.519



mantles from at the Philly Show there and they had52300:29:39.640 --> 00:29:43.559



me to buy Crackerjack cards and I go, yeah, you know,52400:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.240



tell him that, you know, tell him because my friend52500:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.359



was talking to him. I told my friends, this is52600:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.759



Tony from Philly, you know, like I'm some bookie, you know,52700:29:53.039 --> 00:29:54.559



and stand.52800:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.359



Today Tony, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could do that price,52900:29:57.799 --> 00:29:58.000



you know.53000:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.920



And you know, and there's other folks the hobby, you know,53100:30:01.079 --> 00:30:04.480



like I look at what I have curated, you know,53200:30:04.640 --> 00:30:06.759



since being out of the hobby for thirty five years,53300:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.000



and ninety percent of the favorite cards and my hobby,53400:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.920



regardless of value or things that were recommended, preferred, people53500:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.240



found it for me. And we're talking everything about from53600:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.279



Joe Wood to Steve Jalz to you know Olympic stuff53700:30:23.480 --> 00:30:28.079



and Nolan Ryan, Sandy Calfax. So you know it's my53800:30:28.200 --> 00:30:33.440



favorite cards. The vast majority of them easily came from recommendations.53900:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.039



So you know, if that person feels comfortable, you know,54000:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.039



I'll put a little If I post about it, whether54100:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.799



in a private group or publicly, I'll definitely thank that person.54200:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.319



It's just who I am, you know, That's how I54300:30:44.519 --> 00:30:45.519



just I am.54400:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.079



Yeah, and that's how I am. And it's a good point.54500:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.640



Like I've had people send me something and sometimes it'll54600:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.680



be like like hey, listen, don't I've had and I54700:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.720



will again. I'm not gonna mention your name, but I've54800:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.640



had someone send me something and say, listen, I wanted54900:30:59.680 --> 00:31:01.799



to do this for you, but do me favored don't55000:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.759



even I know how you are, John, and you would55100:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.200



normally like publicly post and thank me. I'd rather you55200:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.799



wouldn't because if someone sees it like I didn't send55300:31:11.799 --> 00:31:16.359



them something, yeah, they might get rubbed. So I know55400:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.279



you appreciate it. You don't have to make a public post.55500:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.680



I'm not gonna be mad. I actually don't want you55600:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.599



to because I just don't want other people feeling like,55700:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.000



you know, I don't like them or whatever the case,55800:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.039



and so I won't if they but you know, and55900:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.839



if I do, I usually will ask the person i'd56000:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.000



like to public acknowledge this, any any objection to that.56100:31:38.160 --> 00:31:40.200



And most of the time people say no, that's great,56200:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.599



And but every once in a while someone say no,56300:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.799



you don't have I don't need that. I didn't do56400:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.480



that for that reason and that sort of thing. I56500:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.799



know when I send things, I never I never shill56600:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.039



if you will to like, hey do this.56700:31:53.839 --> 00:31:55.559



You don't, you don't shill.56800:31:55.720 --> 00:31:58.240



Hold on, you're.56900:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.519



No, No, you don't show. Thank you?57000:32:02.440 --> 00:32:02.839



Come on?57100:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.240



Man, Well you know.57200:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.200



That's a whole topic when we use the word show.57300:32:08.359 --> 00:32:13.119



But speaking of I just have to interrupt because I57400:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.720



know we're running out of time. But I was talking57500:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.680



with another friend who had made this year Ray from Philly,57600:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.599



and we're talking about the basketball card Hall of Fame57700:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.720



and Ray, and I just want to thank you again57800:32:25.119 --> 00:32:26.680



for I know I wasn't.57900:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.839



Able to make the episode. I was a last minute cancelation.58000:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.319



How to go on the d L for that night? Uh,58100:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.000



last minute scratch. If we're talking about the ponies.58200:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.759



But thank you for helping us with you know, promote58300:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.200



that basketball card Hall of Fame, you know, the vintage58400:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.240



and the modern errors. And it was great having you on,58500:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.200



or actually you having ray On. I was gonna say58600:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.279



having hustle on, but I was. I was there in spirit,58700:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.720



and uh, you know, sharing your ballot votes for both58800:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.759



errors and you know, thank you for that. We really58900:32:57.799 --> 00:32:58.480



appreciate it.59000:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.400



Well. Number one, it's fun, right and and I know59100:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.680



I talked to this, talk to you about this, even59200:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.240



not recording, right, I believe in that. I think it's important.59300:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.680



It's fun. It gets people part of the process. They59400:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.359



get the weigh in on what cards they want to59500:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.000



see that would I vote on. I do the football59600:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.039



and I do the baseball as well. The basketball one59700:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.599



was the first, and I'll probably do this going forward59800:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.880



to Tony. That was the first time I actually shared59900:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.920



what I voted for, So I think I think it60000:33:30.039 --> 00:33:33.599



sets the president. Now I'll probably do that, uh, you know,60100:33:33.799 --> 00:33:37.599



going forward with the other sports card Hall of Fames.60200:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.960



But uh, Ray and you guys and everyone, I know60300:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.319



there's different guys involved with the different sports. Y'all do60400:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.240



a great job. Ray spear Heads that, and I think60500:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.160



it's important. It's fun, right, we get the way in60600:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.720



and right, we have a hall of fame for everything.60700:33:53.759 --> 00:33:56.640



We have a dessert hall of fame. Right, we have60800:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.680



a dessert hall of fame. We need we we gotta60900:33:59.720 --> 00:34:04.200



have sports cards hall of fame. And so I believe61000:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.079



in it. It's fun. I partake in it. So why61100:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.679



not why not you know, do that and promote it61200:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.280



and share it and get other people that may be61300:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.159



not aware of it to be aware of it and61400:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.920



partaking it. And uh, you know it's a I know61500:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.599



it's a labor love for all you guys that are61600:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.119



involved in it. And it's fun to see, right, it's61700:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.079



fun like any kind of hall of fame, just like61800:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.400



the baseball one that's coming up in real life, you know,61900:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.719



with with with with players, Right, it's always fun to62000:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.320



see who gets in, who doesn't debate like why this62100:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.400



guy should have been in and why this maybe God62200:34:43.480 --> 00:34:44.440



shouldn't have been in?62300:34:45.119 --> 00:34:45.280



Uh.62400:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.800



As long as it's done in good spirit and doesn't62500:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.599



become personal, right, that's all fun to do. And and62600:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.719



and same thing with sports cards, right, Uh, and you62700:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.880



know we've got a lot of iconic cards and uh,62800:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.239



uh and it's still that's that aren't in yet. Uh,62900:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.840



but we'll get in as as all these classes, uh63000:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.920



you know, each year, right, and so uh it's something63100:35:09.920 --> 00:35:14.400



I'll support for as long as I'm around and partake in.63200:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.079



And uh I've told that to Ray, I'll say this63300:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.280



to you, right, you know, just give me as much63400:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.679



notice as you can and we'll get you on and63500:35:22.719 --> 00:35:26.079



we'll we'll go through the candidates and uh you know,63600:35:26.239 --> 00:35:29.320



and let people know that to get uh you know,63700:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.159



rock your vote and get your votes in and and63800:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.599



see if your cards, uh, make it, make it. And63900:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.719



that's all. It's all fun and that's that's what the64000:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.440



hobby's supposed to be at the end of the day.64100:35:41.559 --> 00:35:44.719



And uh so it's uh, you know easy for me64200:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.519



when something's fun and and and interesting, right, it's easy64300:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.440



for me to to promote it because uh you know,64400:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.519



that's what it should be all about to begin with.64500:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.280



Uh you know you thank me, well yeah, yeah.64600:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.480



Fun people, well listen, fun and people.64700:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.800



Yeah, well, Tony, I appreciate it. Man. We could probably64800:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.440



do three hours. We didn't even touch on on everything.64900:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.960



We hit a couple of the big things and whatnot,65000:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.519



and we'll do it again, and we won't wait till65100:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.760



the end of the year. When we do, we'll do65200:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.719



it sooner, like we So I always give the guest65300:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.320



kind of share your social media is or anything you65400:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.679



want and so people can find you and see see65500:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.400



what you post and all that fun stuff. Yeah.65600:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.360



So I have a YouTube channel.65700:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.599



Haven't been making videos lately, but I do have two65800:36:36.119 --> 00:36:41.440



upcoming videos that people would like. One was about a65900:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.239



fellow collector who worked with his father in law and66000:36:44.280 --> 00:36:48.320



put together the nineteen fourteen and nineteen fifteen crackage accts66100:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.719



from two thousand and six to two thousand and eight66200:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.719



and they accomplished it in less than two years. And66300:36:54.760 --> 00:36:56.360



then the second episode is going to be about the66400:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.599



nineteen sixty eight Tops three D set. So those are66500:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.760



the two shows I'm working on for YouTube to the66600:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.159



end of the year. And I'll take a break and66700:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.800



YouTube just search for TJ t J. Then is I66800:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.840



s online and you can find me or just look66900:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.039



for you know, t J st Jels or something and67000:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.159



then you'll find me quickly.67100:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.559



So yeah, there you go. Well, let's say this is67200:37:19.599 --> 00:37:23.480



always yeah, this is always fun, and uh, we'll you know,67300:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.360



maybe we'll do some other stuff. We talked about maybe67400:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.760



re reviving a show that I used to do, maybe67500:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.800



rebranding it. So there's a little tease. I can't guarantee it,67600:37:34.960 --> 00:37:39.079



but you know, uh, two guys that like to talk, right, Uh,67700:37:39.199 --> 00:37:44.159



that's easy with Yeah, with that too. So we have67800:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.280



no trouble. Uh, you know, fill in time and uh67900:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.800



uh and we have a blast. So Tony has always68000:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.400



appreciate you. You're making some time and coming on and68100:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.480



chopping some stuff up, and uh, you know, for as68200:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.880



much as we talk offline, it's always fun to do68300:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.280



with online as well.68400:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.599



So thanks man, thank you for having me appreciate it.68500:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.280



But we always have a blast, me and Tony chopping68600:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.599



up some hobby whether like I said, you heard me there,68700:38:12.599 --> 00:38:16.039



tell them whether it's online or offline. Uh. You know,68800:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.239



we give each other the straight scoop how we feel.68900:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.159



Whether we agree or disagree it, you know, it doesn't matter, right,69000:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.159



And that's the thing, you know, I think that's the takeaway, Right,69100:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.679



we don't have to agree with everything our hobby friends69200:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.039



say or do or takes right as long as they're69300:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.119



you know, if they're good people doing good things overall. Right,69400:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.400



that's what it should be really about. We've had some69500:38:42.440 --> 00:38:47.639



stuff come up recently, and you know, we gotta we69600:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.880



gotta be those kinds of people where friendships are bigger69700:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.400



than just having a different stance on something. And for me,69800:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.360



that's just the way I was brought up, So there's69900:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.960



no trouble for me. And a little tease here. Might70000:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.840



see some future collabs with myself and Tony coming down70100:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.400



the line, so look forward for that. So now we're70200:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.679



gonna hear from our hobbies the people announcer of the70300:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.159



week and put a bow tie on this week's episode.70400:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.639



Time for our hobby is the People Announcer of the week.70500:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.880



Hello sports Cardination. This is Al from Iconic Baseball.70600:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.719



Keep collecting, stay iconic, and above all else, remember that70700:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.079



the hobby is the people.70800:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.800



If you'd like to be the hobby is the People70900:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.000



Announcer of the week, do a one or MP three71000:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.719



file and send it to sports Cott Nation PC at71100:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.239



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