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Sports Guardinations hobby is the people Wheely News and Interviews.
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It's your number one soul. Sports Guardations hobby is the people.
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Sports Guardation. What is up? Everybody? Welcome the episode three
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eighty seven of Sportscardination Podcast. Want to thank our great sponsors,
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Iron Sports Cards, Sports Collectors, Digest, Hobby, Hotline, Upper Deck
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and a new sponsor coming soon. I can't reveal just yet,
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but happy to have them aboard. And we'll be breaking
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that news shortly. But let's talk about today's guest. He
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claimed artists. He can do really anything, wildlife, nature, cacter people,
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but he's famous for due mean athletes and sports are
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and his work has been used by Tops and Upper Deck.
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And we've had artists on before. Uh and I've always said, right,
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the cards are all works of art in their own right,
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and uh, this gentleman epitomize it. And I'm talking to
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none other than acclaimed artist James Fiorentino. And first time
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he's been on the show, and glad to have him.
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And uh, you know, we we learned some stuff, or
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I learned some stuff. And you know, he is active
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and he's a former great athlete in his own right.
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And we'll learn more about that as well. So with
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that being said, let's get the show started. Happy to
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have my next guest on the Sports Cardination guest line.
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He is an acclaimed amazing artist. He can pretty much
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paint anything, wildlife, you name it, but more known for
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his work in the sports art field, and happy to
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have him on. I've seen his work for for many moons,
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but finally happy to have him here on the podcast today.
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James Fiorantino, Welcome.
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Thanks for having me on. And I have to first
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say that maybe the coolest intro I've ever seen.
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And then it's out downhill after that game. I appreciate
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you that and like I said, uh, your acclaimed artist.
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Your work is speaks for itself. It's amazing. You know.
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It's funny I've said this when I've had other artist
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on the podcast. My dad is a great artist. He
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does a lot of Disney stuff. My son is incredible freehand.
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Like you can draw and paint the Beatles. It skipped me.
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I could barely draw a stick figure to save my life,
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even struggling like when we played Hangman as a kid.
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But I always have an affection for people who are talented,
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especially in the art field, knowing how bad I'm at
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it and how difficult it is to do. I know,
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you collect cards and stuff. You know, you grew up
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in New Jersey. I have to I'll start off with
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this question. You know what came first for you, cards
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or painting as a young kid growing up in Jersey.
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Yeah, definitely painting. I mean that was something you know,
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I was doing at a really young age. I mean
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like three, four or five years old, So I was
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just drawing and coloring anything I could see and get
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my hands on. I think my first experience probably with
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cards was you know, so probably in that eight year
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old range. I think by the time eight nine years old,
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I was starting to get excited by it. I remember,
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which is kind of ironic, where my father had a
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set for me they had bought years, you know, some
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years before I was born. It was the eighty two
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top set, and that had been sitting in the house,
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you know, prior to me collecting, which ironically had you know,
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Ripkins Rookie in it, who I would eventually paint his
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twenty one thirty one game and all that stuff. So
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always kind of funny how it ties into things like that.
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But I think by the time eighty five eighty forty
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five started to roll around, I was starting to get
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into cards and the Yankees, and maddingly, my mother's cousin
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owned a baseball card shop in New Jersey, so there
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were some you know, family roots there with with I mean,
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that's like early card stuff really, But yeah, I've been
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I've been collecting and of love cards since I was
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a young kid.
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I always ask artistists right when we're kids, myself included,
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like I said, I can't I can't draw myself, you know,
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to save my life, save my life. But when you're young, right,
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you're in kindergarten, and you know you're drawing a picture,
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probably with crayons, and to you right, it's a masterpiece, right,
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even though to probably an older person just looks like
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a bunch of different crayon colors on a page. When
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did you know, like, even as a young kid, like hey,
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like this is good, Like I got something here, I've
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got a scuse.
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Yeah, well, I think you know, I knew I was
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better than you know, most kids around, even at a young age.
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When I you know, I tell people kindergarten teachers, first grade,
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second grade teachers were keeping my artwork from class, so
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I was they were obviously noticing, oh, you know, this
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kid's doing something I really haven't seen much before. And so,
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you know, was a god given talent that I just
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loved to do and enjoyed and and you know, was
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wanting to do it every day and learn as much
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as I could and still do today. So I think,
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you know, you you start to see like, wow, holy cow,
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this is like better than some adult straw, you know,
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when you're in third, fourth grade, fifth grade. You know,
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then obviously eventually I was you know, working on things
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that again I loved, which could have been comics, cartoons,
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you know, toys back then. Obviously, then it got into
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sports in baseball. So at that young age, I was
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starting to you know, do a lot of you know,
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as detailed as I could. I think the big turn
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for me, which I've talked about a lot, is you know,
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I was lucky enough to have my mom take me
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to art lessons when I was eight, and you know,
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I started learning with adults and learning how to paint,
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and you know that really helped, and you know, go
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into art shows when I was younger, and even baseball
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card shows. I mean I used to go to a
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lot of baseball card shows when I was younger, when
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shows were first really starting to take off. And even
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then there weren't a lot of artists there. And I'm
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talking when I was young, so I could have been
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like fourteen thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old. So yeah, it
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was definitely an early thing that was recognized at a
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young age by a lot of people.
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Did you know that even though obviously you knew you
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had the talent, Like you said, you were sort of
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years ahead of your time and you could tell like, hey,
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I have something here. Did you know then, like hey
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I want this is what I wanted to do as
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a career or was it? Was it too young to
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really think that far ahead?
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Definitely not as a career. I still can't believe it
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today that I paint for a living. I think it's
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a very difficult thing. It's you know, being a professional
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artist is the same as being a professional musician or
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actor or anything. You know. I just did things and
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painted sports too, because I loved it. I certainly didn't
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do it thinking I was going to make money in it.
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And of course, like for me, it's it's like you
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mentioned earlier, I paint you know, you know, family portraits
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to landscapes to wildlife for major organizations and galleries and
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obviously the sports. But no, I wasn't really thinking that.
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I you know, started to realize though, by the time
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I was fourteen fifteen, that I can make money with it,
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which was pretty crazy. You know, when I met Damaggia
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at fourteen and had him sign a painting at a
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card show, and you know, being involved with the National
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Baseball Hall of Fame at fifteen years old, and you know,
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being in the New Jersey area where a lot of
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people collected and enjoyed sports and sort of got it.
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I was like, wow, okay, like this is actually really great.
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at it. Late in high school, was starting to do
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very well, was able to pay my way through college
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because of it. So there was a sense of, oh,
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this is possible. But you know, again, I just did
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it for the love of it.
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Yeah, and again I've seen a lot of what you've done.
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Just I can't say it enough. Just kudos to you
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on accredible work. And you know, typically like how long,
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you know, I always asked this of an artist, like
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every piece is different, so maybe are more intricate than others.
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I mean, they're all intricate in the in their own right,
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but maybe one might be a little more detailed. And
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I know it's probably a hard question to answer, like
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how how many when we see the finished product right
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and it's beautiful, and then I think, sometimes you know,
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we love it, but we don't realize how much. I'll say,
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like the blood, sweat and tears and time goes into
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a piece on the average, you know, what does how
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much time does it take to finish an incredible piece?
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Yeah, I mean it's complicating the sense of like it's first,
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it's watercolor, which is my medium, which is a very
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fast medium but also probably the most challenging medium to
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anyone who doesn't know. You know, you really can't make
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many mistakes. You can't go over it like a crilic
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or oils a medium I fell in love with. I
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painted almost like a critic or oils very photo photorealistic.
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three four days. There are paintings that could take me
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two weeks. It depends on how large they are, If
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it's a twenty two by a thirty or thirty by
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forty versus a small painting versus painting on it like
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a card size versus you know, several paint people in
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the painting, so it varies. I mean, I try to
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make it like a nine to five job, you know,
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with the mix of talking to people as well to
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day and then painting almost every day of the week,
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so it's you know, it takes time. There are paintings.
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in a month, you can finish six in a month,
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again depending on the size. But it probably is a
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lot more than I think sometimes. And you know, I'm
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lucky to have kind of mastered it in the sense
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of I've been painting water color for over thirty years now.
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So you mentioned water color, and it's sort of the
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higher degree of difficulty, right, Like, you don't you don't
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get any Mulligan's or due over, So you've got to
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be precise, you got to have a steady hand. What
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was it about water colors that drew you to that
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rather than another meeting?
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Yeah, I mean there's something I loved about it when
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I was young. I joke around saying maybe it wasn't
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messy or smell bad like oils when you're when you're
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mixing paints and stuff. And I had painted in every
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medium growing up and even in college. Just the way
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it flows, the way I controlled it. I think for
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what I love the paint, which is a lot of detail.
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and it just had a different feel to it. I
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think that's why I always, you know, I keep painting
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it because I feel like, you know, it separates me
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from a lot of artists, you know, in how I
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paint it, so just something there, and it also lends
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itself really beautifully. I think to sports, you know, especially baseball,
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especially actually painting vintage cards and things like that, because
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it's just that watercolor has that old school feel to it.
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So it's worked out really well that way.
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but it may not be a simp. I think use
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a technique called a dry brush technique. Is it as
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simple as it sounds, where you're just not using where
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you you know, when you're painting, you know, the average
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person they're dipping their their paint rush into a cup
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of water and then into the paint where it's it's
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not as wet. Is it as simple as that? Or
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am I simplifying it too much?
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I think it's I think it's like anything else, the
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more you experience something, the more you do it, you
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you figure it out. However, there's always everybody has a
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different way of doing things. And it's funny because I'd say,
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maybe a month ago, I did a watercolor demo for
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a local water color society, and I don't do them often,
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just based on time and and everything. But I was like, yeah,
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I'll be happy to do it. And you know, even
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the people in the room were laughing because I do
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stuck very differently, and they were it was unique and
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they can't figure out how I'm doing it. And sometimes
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I say, I don't even know how I'm doing it.
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out along the way, and that's the beauty of anybody
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creating any kind of art. So I do think there
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are techniques that I do that a lot of people
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wouldn't be able to do, or they quit while doing
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it they think they're making a mistake. You know, to
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get very technical with it, it's you know, I use
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a very heavy paper, you're scraping away paper, you're doing
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this and that, and again that's trial and eron figuring
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it out over many, many years. What brushes, what pain
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what paper and so anyway, Yeah, I think that if
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a teacher is teaching you, certainly you can kind of
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figure that stuff on your own. But it takes a
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lot of time and effort, you know, to be able
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to learn it.
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Yeah, no doubt. Like I said, you're talking to someone
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who could barely figure.
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Sports combination has reasons.
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You're an accomplished athlete as well. You've played baseball, including
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it in college. Do you think being a baseball player
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and athlete does that help you as an artist when
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painting athletes or is they really? Are they mutually exclusive?
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It's a good question. I do think it helps. I
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think that in anything, there's a t rudeness and honesty
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to the way you paint what you love and a passion.
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I think maybe certainly I know what may look right
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or really cool to someone size wise, cropping wise, certain
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ways people throw something swing. So I do think because
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I have a passion and I really appreciated, you know,
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I appreciate how these what these guys are doing today
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and and have a love for it, and you know,
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playing it on a very low level in college. But still,
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you know, I do think that that adds to it.
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I think that, you know, if I went painted something
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I don't know much about, could I do a good job, Sure,
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but it may not be the passion that maybe somebody
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specializes in that would have. I certainly feel like you
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see that same thing in my work and my landscapes
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or portraits of people in wildlife, which I love. So
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I think it's you know, it certainly helps, especially for
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you know, growing up playing basketball, baseball and football and
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being fan of it, and especially in baseball. I'm still
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as excited today to paint those things and learning even
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more now about about sports and different things for my kids.
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It's still exciting and helps. I think I.
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Would think you're uber talented. I'm sure you know nothing
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gives you too much grief. But is there a sport
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or a niche of painting that maybe gets you a
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little more white knuckle over another word like football to
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to baseball or wildlife to sports or is it not?
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Not really it's all Is it all the same, It's
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just the subject is different.
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Uh Yeah, not really. I think I always say, like, obviously,
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when you're doing a painting of a player, someone famous
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that you're presenting to, even if they're not famous, even
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if it's just you know, regular people, anytime you're painting them,
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you know, it's it's the hardest because again I say,
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no one knows what the tree looks like or an
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animal's face looks like. Trying to paint realistic or paint
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someone accurately is always the hardest. So that's still a
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challenge I think for me today at times. But I
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you know, I enjoy again painting everything. If I had
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my choice, I probably do a lot more landscapes, which
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are a lot of fun for me, but not really
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I think maybe from a sports standpoint. I've painted a
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lot of vintage cards, which I love doing, which is
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part of there's only one collection. So like when I'm
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painting old Ruths and Joe Jackson's and Wagoners, and you know,
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painting some of those cards, cards that are like a
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larger size like the roof behind me, you know, they're
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very challenging, I think, very different way of kind of
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attacking the artwork and painting it like the card looks like.
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So that's a little bit different fun for me. So
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you're always learning something new and trying to do something different.
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Are you, Like, is there a little extra pressure when
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maybe you're commissioned by an athlete to do a piece
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for them, because obviously you take pride in what you do,
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whether it's something you're doing on your own or your commission.
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I'm sure that would out even hearing you answer to that,
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But is there a little is they had to get
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up a little bit when you know, like for sure
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that this athlete is actually or a family is going
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to see the piece, and you want it to be
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you know in your mind like perfect.
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Yeah, definitely, I mean, you know, especially if it's a
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bigger project. I mean, for example, I just finished painting
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the National Baseball Hall of Fame's year book cover. Again.
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I was honored to be able to do it last year,
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which was amazing. And you know, not only you're painting
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the cover that thousands of people get and see, but
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the players and the players family and then the original
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was hanging in the Hall of Fame, so you got
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a lot of people coming in to see it. So
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I think the painting, for example, I just did we
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maybe a few weeks ago, you almost lock in a
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little more. I think it's like anything else, you're concentrating
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a little more, you're working it on, you know, working
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on it a little more, and because you're trying to
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obviously put out the best work you can. So and
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that's still exciting for me. So again, thirty years later,
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you know, even still working in this subject matter is exciting.
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When I get to do something, I feel like I'm
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that level for a lot of people to.
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Say, Yeah, definitely, I get that. Do you ever get
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you know, like again, I'm not trying to compare my
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dad to to what you do. But even as a kid,
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see my dad at his easy little painting, Like I said,
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you know, I talked to you before we start, does
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a lot of Disney work. He's still he's eighty eight,
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still still painting. But I remember even as a kid,
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he'd walk away like he'd walk away. I could tell
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he was like a little flustered, frustrated, like I gotta
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take a break. Obviously, again I'm not comparing skill levels
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to you to him, And you ever get moments like that,
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like hey, I've painted enough today. I gotta, I gotta,
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you know, get up and take a break. You hit
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that sort of wall.
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Yeah, definitely. I mean, especially when you're painting detail. I paint,
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you know, on a desk that's got a little angle
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to it, and you're kind of hunched over, so you
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gotta walk around, stretch, come back to it. The more
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you come back to look at things is really good. Sometimes,
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you know, sharing it with my family to take a
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look at it is, But yeah, it's it's it's again
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an artist, it's a It's a real blessing and a
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beautiful thing to be able to do for a living
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and do it every day. But just like anything else
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or any kind of work, you gotta step away, come back,
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step away. Sometimes you make mistakes, you fix them, and
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you try to pick things that are challenging but also
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that you know you could do a good job on.
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But yeah, definitely.
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Yeah, you've already mentioned most no that know your work,
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like your stuff is in in Cooperstown. I mean that
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that in itself is just incredible. You know, you can tell, Hey,
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I'm in the Hall of Fame too. Maybe I didn't
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hit eight, you know, seven hundred something home runs, but
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I'm there in the artists terms. You're you're you're worthy.
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Do you remember like the first time that happened in
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that feeling? Can you go like just kind of recn't
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can't the first time?
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You know?
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And is it comparable to almost being inducted? Like hey my,
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you know, people are going to go through the hall
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and it's like you said the other meg, like lots
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of people are going to you know, thousands of hundreds
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of thousands are going to see my work on a
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daily basis, like just that feeling the first time. It's
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probably old hat now, but you know when it first happened.
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Well, it's almost like a way that they're inducting you.
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You know, as an artist. There's writers that go in,
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you know, sports commentators and journalists, so you know, we
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you know, as an artist, there's a lot of tremendous
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baseball artists out there who are doing such great things
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for the game and in the past. So it's another
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way of promoting it and the passion for people and
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collectors and the love of the game. I remember, you know,
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getting a phone call. I think I was about fourteen
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fifteen because it was in when I was fifteen, but
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you know, to have my Reggie Jackson painting hang, it
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was surreal. It was surreal to be there because it
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was in the induction case and you know, just hundreds
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of people coming in front of me in the time
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I was there taking pictures of it. And so that
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was the first time I couldn't believe that that many
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people would, you know, have my painting in their house
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like in their photos. And you know, in all honesty,
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even last year doing the yearbook cover for the first time,
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I had done like an induction program once, but doing
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the yearbook cover was such an extreme honor and I
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think the biggest thing for me now it was a
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couple of things. I think a lot of people. There's
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a lot of people that known my work for the
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last thirty years and have known the trading cards I've
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done and all things I've done, and there's people meeting
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me for the first time seeing it. I think the
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coolest thing last year, and what happened this year is that,
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you know, my son who's sixteen, came with me, you know,
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for the induction and the night before and we got
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time to spend. We had some time to spend in
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the Hall of Fame at night on Saturday night with
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the players and to have that with my son, and
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to see the original hanging in the induction room last
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year and players are in there. That is the most
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amazing thing. It doesn't get any better than that. And
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this year, which I'm very excited about, is my twelve
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year old will play baseball there in Cooperstown for the
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week for with his team. And so for him to
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be there with his team, to have his dad's painting
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being there, and you know, that's the big thrill for
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me now in all honesty and uh, like I said,
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that's a different feeling, but just as amazing as it
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was when I was a kid at.
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Fifty Yeah, to share that with your your kids and
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and here you are at fifteen, your work is there.
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I mean, just that's got to be incredible to think
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and here we and it's you know what I mean,
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that's that can't it can't change that, Like it's like
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being inducted. They can't take they can't really take you out.
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And you know you mentioned your kids did for me.
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I didn't get my dad's art issue did How about
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your kids from you?
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They didn't. I mean they're pretty good artists and that
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I always say that they're I think they're better than average,
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and actually, if they wanted to do more of it,
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they'd be pretty good. But they don't have the passion
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like I do and did when I was young. But
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I think they have it in other aspects of their life,
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which is pretty cool. So I think my twelve year old,
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who's very good at music and loves to play the guitar,
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I think it's I think it's in that way for him,
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And I think my older son it's in writing and
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his ability to write and write with empathy and detail
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and just like you know, his thought process. So I
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think they certainly have that side of their brain going
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just not you know, drawing wise, and that's fun to see.
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So I'm a vantage guy. I collect modern cards too.
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I don't want to make but I'm heavy vantage guy.
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I've always said on the show when other artists have
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been on the show. Art is such a fabric and
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an integral part of training cards from from the early
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days and even even today it's still uh, it's always
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been intrinsic and the and sometimes I sometimes I get mad,
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James when I feel like people don't give art an
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artists enough credit for some of the things we're seeing today.
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They just think, you know, I think sometimes with AI,
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which I which I know is a great tool, but
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it makes things sometimes easier, it makes makes us lazier,
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myself included. I don't think artists and art gets enough
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credit for trading cards of the past and even the
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products that we have today. As an artist yourself, I mean,
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do you agree what your what's your take when you hear.
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That, Yeah, I agree totally obviously, And to me that's
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what you know. I've had a passion for vintage cards
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and and old time players since I was a kid.
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00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:49.079
I was really interested in that and and and you know,
478
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.039
I collect I mean, like those old painted cards from
479
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:54.640
the fifties, even going back later. But I love the
480
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:56.680
fifty three set. I talk about the fifty three set
481
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.559
all the time. My cousin had it, you know, Jerry Devorak,
482
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:01.519
when the Ridge artists for that set, was a mentor
483
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:05.079
to me growing up. I just can't get enough of
484
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.920
those cards. I'm so happy that, you know, a lot
485
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.119
of the modern cards, a lot of these companies have
486
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.880
been using artists now over the years. I would argue
487
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:14.839
that there's nothing better than pulling on one of one
488
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.759
art card by someone who's very talented and well known
489
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:20.200
artists than an autograph card. And you're talking about one
490
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:22.000
of one original painting. And I do see some of
491
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.640
them getting their due on the secondary market from a
492
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.079
lot of these guys. I know some of these talented
493
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.920
artists or friends of mine, and so I love the
494
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.160
fact that that's happening. I think arts on the rise.
495
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.559
I think it's being collected more. I think people are
496
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.319
understanding it more. Certainly in the sports in the world
497
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.839
as well. It's been that way for me now for
498
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.000
the last four or five years, where things have been huge.
499
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.720
I've been blessed lucky enough to paint for card companies
500
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.839
for many years, you know, not as many recently. Hopefully
501
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.359
I'll be doing some more, maybe for next year. But
502
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:56.000
going back to my cards in ninety nine with tops
503
00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.440
and the upper Deck cards, and even like this year
504
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.720
I was posting the twenty fifth anniversary and my cards
505
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.519
for reper Deck in two thousand and one, people still
506
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.599
contact me over those cards and how excited they are
507
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:10.880
by them and just finding them for the first time.
508
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.640
And so there's just something so unique and special about
509
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.519
art and art being in the packs and knowing the
510
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artists and their life and what they've done and accomplished.
511
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It goes back to me to you know, when I51200:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.599
was a kid though, from Dick Perez and Vernon Wells51300:27:26.640 --> 00:27:28.720
and guys like that. Of course, I was the most51400:27:28.720 --> 00:27:30.680
excited about those cards I would get in the packs,51500:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.240
and then obviously, like you mentioned, going back to vintage51600:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.079
times of I just it's amazing to think about those guys,51700:27:38.480 --> 00:27:40.599
you know, painting back then for those cards in the51800:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.880
fifties and so yes, I do agree with you. I51900:27:44.920 --> 00:27:46.720
think it's amazing. I love to see more of it.52000:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.359
I think Topps has done a great job with bringing52100:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.920
a lot of artwork back into everything over the last52200:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.839
you know, five six years or more. So I'm excited52300:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.039
that I got on it pretty early, you know, back52400:27:59.079 --> 00:28:03.440
in so yeah, I'm hoping to do a lot more,52500:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.000
which would be a lot of fun. There's nothing cooler52600:28:05.039 --> 00:28:09.920
too than having packs of your your cards in packs52700:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.480
that your kids can open. So hopefully, you know, I'd52800:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.680
love to do like my own set, you know, something52900:28:15.680 --> 00:28:17.039
really special and unique like that.53000:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.720
So always appreciate having some of these sports and sports53100:28:20.759 --> 00:28:26.240
card artists on. We've had double digits of them, and53200:28:27.359 --> 00:28:29.319
I'm not gonna lie, I'm probably a little jealous of53300:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.119
their talent, the way they can paint and draw and53400:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.799
put that together and and look so awesome, and you know,53500:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.599
it's really cool. I wish I wish I had that skill.53600:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.240
And James Biorantino is at the top of that list.53700:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.079
So it was a real, uh, you know, joy talking53800:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.359
to them on this episode. And the good news is53900:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.440
this was part one, as we do these two part54000:28:54.599 --> 00:28:59.880
interview series so Part two will continue uh next week54100:29:00.359 --> 00:29:06.599
as well, So more with James Fiorantino next Friday or54200:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.759
next episode if you will, so thanks to him, and54300:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.200
we'll be talking more with him on the next episode.54400:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.720
So with that being said, we're gonna hear from our hobbies,54500:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.440
the People Announcer of the Week and some closing thoughts54600:29:22.480 --> 00:29:24.759
and wrap up this week's episode.54700:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.519
Time for our hobby is the People Announcer of the Week.54800:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.759
Hello Rookie card collectors, Victor the Rookie Card Specialist on YouTube,54900:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.279
reminding you that the hobby is the People.55000:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.279
If you'd like to be the hobby is the People55100:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.839
Announcer of the Week to one four MP three file55200:29:48.000 --> 00:29:53.960
and send it to Sportscott Nation DC at gmail dot com.55300:29:54.039 --> 00:29:55.240
SA. Good night, Kane,
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