Jan. 26, 2026

2026 Football Card HOF Candidates w/Ray Fonio Hobby Quick Hits E221

2026 Football Card HOF Candidates w/Ray Fonio Hobby Quick Hits E221
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Special Episode:
Ray Fonio of the Football Card Hall of Fame joins us to go over the 45 cards up for possible induction as the 4th Class. Top 5 vote getters will get in.

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Hey, everyone, welcome to episode twenty one Hobby Quick Hits.

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As we sometimes do on this show, we kind of

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go off format, if you will, that will be the

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case today. My friend Ray Fonio will join us. So

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we do have a guest on today's show, which is

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usually not the case. But we're going to go over

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the twenty twenty six Football Card Hall of Fame candidate

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list for this year's class, and we normally do it

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on Sports Cardination, but with some scheduling and snaffoos and

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all that stuff, we're going to tackle it on this episode.

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So we're going to go through the list forty five

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cards rather quickly. There'd be no new segment, no product

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release segment. We're just gonna go right into the Football

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Card Hall of Fame candidate list and the to vote

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will be in the show notes. We urge you to

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go and vote and get that done to induct this

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year's Card class into the Football Card Hall of Fame.

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So with that being said, let's start the show and

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talk to Ray about this year's potentials. Joining me now

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is my friend Ray from Philly, Ray Fonio. Normally we

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would do this pod this segment, not Sports Cardination, but

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like I said in the intro, between scheduling and time,

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we didn't get it done. But we've already baked in

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a plan myself and Ray and his group. Should be

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the last time we're on this version of hobby Quickets.

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We'll get back on a sports cardination. But Ray is

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the founder of Sports Cards Hall of Fame more than one.

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We're gonna be talking about football today, but there's also

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basketball in baseball as well. And thanks for joining me, Ray.

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I appreciate you having me on again, John, Thank you

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so much.

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Yeah, no, this is this is a worthy a venture.

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A lot of work goes in into it, Like like

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I said, not just you, but also your team as well.

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And I think you know, I don't know why I

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hadn't been done until you kind of tackle this thing

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and uh here we are? What what class will this be?

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What year will this be? For football?

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This is gonna be the fourth annual Football car Hall

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of Fame six already.

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Yeah, where's the time going? Like it doesn't seem like

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I don't know about you, but for for doing this,

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having you on to talk about it doesn't seem like

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for four years where yeah you said, uh here we

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are so fourth year, ye have forty five cards. We're

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gonna go through them. Probably are you gonna do them

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from like all this to most current if you will,

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or newish?

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Yeah, well the oldest.

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We'll go through them. You know, we're not gonna rush rush,

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but we'll go through the kind of briskly. I'll chime

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in not maybe every card, but here and there, and

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you know, we kind of talk about you know, the rules, uh,

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you know, and who gets in, how many get in,

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how many people, how many cards people can vote for,

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where they can go to vote. I'll also put that

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in the show notes, but for those listening as well,

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go over that stuff.

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Well all right, so did you want me to start.

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Yeah, yeah, just kind of the parameters, like like how

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many you know, there's forty five candidate cards, yep, but

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how many make the class that how many of the

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top vote getters.

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Well, there's forty Again, there's forty five cards in the class,

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like there is each year. It used to be the

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first two years myself Bart Bart's cards. In scott Ascani tradition,

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they also head off the football card Hall of Fame.

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We did ten cards the first two years each year

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and then last year and year number three, we had

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lowered it to five. So five cards will be getting

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in this year only because the football card history doesn't

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go as far back as as baseball cards, so we

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wanted to kind of you know, shorten the amount of

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cards that gets in eat yep.

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And so the five top vote getters will get in yep.

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Who comes off the ballot, not to be mean, but

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who yeah.

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Well, in order to keep the ballot fresh each year

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and try and rotate, the bottom five cards of courts

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that finish forty one to forty five will get bumped

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off next year and then they'll so they'll add ten

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new cards each year. So the five cards that get

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inducted it and the five cars that get bumped off,

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so that means thirty five will be returning each year,

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and then ten new cards get put on the ballot

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as new cards. Now, the five cars that get bumped off,

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it's possible they can get put back one as you'll

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see on this year's out on a few cards from

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a couple of years AGO's ballot. Barton Scott decided that

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they wanted to you know, put these cards is another

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chance to get back once since they were such great cards.

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Figure give it a one more shot to see what

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happens to them.

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All right, so uh, if you want, we're gonna go

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from you know, oldest to the newest that has no

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bearing you. A new card can get in, an old

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card may not get in. It's again, it's all based

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power to the people, right and and and uh you

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know who wants what what particular card?

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Uh?

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And so let's let's start right from the oldest stuff

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that we weren't around yet.

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For the well least. The first card is the eighteen

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eighty eight two Harry Beacher card that is considered the

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first football card. Yeah, if people see that card on

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the ball, that it looks like he's holding a football card.

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But it's a beautiful card. And so they started off

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with the eighteen eighty eight n one sixty two Harry Beacher.

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And this year has that been I'm assuming that's been

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on before. Has this card been closed? I mean this

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is night kind of card.

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Yeah. Last year, like I said, top five get in,

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I think it was somewhere around eighth or ninth, So

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it was very close in getting in last year. So

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who knows, maybe this year is the Year'll see. The

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next card is a new card, the eighteen ninety four

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Mayo Cut Plug. And those cars don't really have names

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on them, but it's kind of like a generic. But

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the whist one does have a name of John Dunlop,

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so that was a new card entered in this year

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is a eighteen ninety four Mayo Cut Plug John don Lop.

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A return a card coming back from last year is

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the nineteen thirty five National Chickle Clark Hinkel. There is

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a thirty five National Chickle card in the Hall of

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Fame already. That's the Bronco mcgirsky. A cart that was

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on the ballot in two years ago in twenty twenty

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four is now back going. It was one of the

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five that got bumped off. And that's the forty eight

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bum in Kenny Washington and yeah underrated.

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You know, for those that don't know, again, I'll vote.

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I'm not gonna tell people who I vote for, but

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I will say this. Look, if you don't know who

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Kenny Washington is, google him, as Kurt Signetti would say,

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and learn about. He was a tremendous athlete Italian with

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Jackie Robinson and all that stuff as well. So this one,

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you know a little sentimental to me. I'll just say.

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That, Yeah, I mean it's a pretty classic, great looking

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car at forty eight bone and black and white car.

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That's fantastic. A part that's returning from last year's ballot

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from a big set the forty eight leaf sit Luckman,

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another car coming back again as the forty eight Leaf

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Bobby Lane and.

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Former brief brief Steelers quarterback. I'm wearing my Steelers winter

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winter cap bears as the storm's coming. Yeah, well we're

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all bet we're all betting down here. Yeah it's this

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one's a you know, this one's gonna be a bad one,

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they're saying. So yeah, we'll see hopefully everyone uh you know,

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we we we kind of laugh, but uh you know

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it can cause obviously, uh deaths and and severe injuries,

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and we hope, uh I hope everyone's all right. But

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uh yeah, yeah go ahead. So I just had the.

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Right uh after that is a new card on the

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ballot this year. Uh former Eagle Great running back nineteen

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forty eight leaf Steve Van Buren Big Boy card. So

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the card does say big boyl on there. So this

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is a first year card on the ballot. Ever, a

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card returning from last year is a fifty bum in

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uh Crazy Legs el Roy Crazy Legs hirsh Yeah. And

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another card returning from last year, the nineteen fifty tops

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Felt Joe Peterno former Penn State.

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Yeah does. And I know we've because when we've done

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the show on the other sports Carnation and we will

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you know, when we do that, we put the pictures up. Unfortunately,

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we're not doing that today. I thought that would be

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in by now, truth be told. So I don't know

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how much. I don't know how much Ray like what

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happened at the end and the Sandusky stuff, you know,

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I mean, it's still Joe Paterno, He's still a legend

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in Penn State. And you know, I know it's a

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little tarnished, but I don't think enough to keep that car.

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And plus that card is not easy to find. That

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is a kind of iconic hard to find a lot

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of people. Yeah, and a lot of people's like target

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lists for for years. Right, So maybe that's it too.

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Maybe it's just not enough. Like you might know about it.

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I might know about it. Died in the wool football

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card collectors might know about it, and and then sort

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of that middle tier collector just might not know enough

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about Maybe it's more of that than the whole could be. Yeah,

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no dark cloud stuff, who knows, who knows?

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Coming up after that is a classic card. This is

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a returney from last year. This is I think the

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third year on the ballot, nineteen fifty bowman Doak Walker. Yeah,

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full looking car card that got close last year. It

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was a returney from last year to fifty one bowman

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Norm van Brocklin rookie. Beautiful looking card if people want

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to look this up on the ballot, you know, with

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the blue uniform and the yellow ram horns or great

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looking card. I think this finished like seventh or eighth

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last year, so it's a possibility he was on the cusp.

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Speaking of another card that was on the cusp last

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year was the fifty one bowman Tom Landry, former Great

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Dallas Cowboy head coach, was a player, and you see

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him in the fifty one bowman, a great looking card.

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He as a memory of the Giants. And yeah, that

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one's another one. And I put that kind of with

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paternal two coaching legends and players, right, they both played.

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I mean they're more known for the coaching, were more

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known for the coaching prowers, but they're I mean, they're

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legendary on potentially on some people's mount rushmore of coaches,

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and these are their first cards. Talking about the Paternal

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in this Landry YouTube you just mentioned, these two cards

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not being in at this point are a little both

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surprising to me. I know, we already talked about Turno

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and you know, Landry made his mark obviously in the

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NFL where Paternal did it at the college level. But

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at one time, you know, at times they were the

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pinnacle of coaching at each of those level. When you

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talk coaching, these were one of the first people you

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thought of in those times. And so the fact that

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their first cards are still on the outside looking in,

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I think that will change in both of these cards cases.

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You know, maybe one of them gets in this year,

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the other one eventually, maybe they both will have to

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see right.

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Yeah, And coming up next as a card that is

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a Returney from two years ago. So this was like

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one of the I forgot what the other card was

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that I had stated. That is a return of the

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forty eighth bowman Kenny Washington. This is a similar situation

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they are. This is the fifty one bowman Emlyn Tell

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card looks a great looking car at Barton Scott decided

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that this card absolutely needs a at least one more shot,

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and that's a returney from the twenty twenty four ballot.

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A card that was I finished. I think it finished

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around twelve last year. The nineteen fifty two Bowman Large

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Frank Gifford rookie card. Nice looking card. And the next

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card is a new entry into this year that Barton

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Scott put in is the nineteen fifty two Bowman Large

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Jim Lanceford. It shows his college uniform on the University

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of Texas, beautiful blue background. A card that was summer

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I think finished ten to fifteen last year. It's a

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returning from last year. And that's the fifty two bom

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and George Blanda, great Bears, legendary player.

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Yeah yeah, and another guy who's I mean he played

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into his forties. I've been thinking about it. Yeah, we

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talk about you know how Tom Brady played his forties.

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One of Super Bowl his forties. Ye. Blanda did that

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before the equipment was as high tech as the modern

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as the modern day equipment. And he had a tremendous

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career and he was multi dimensional. He could kick he

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could throw like you know, he was a coach on

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the field, you know, just just he's obviously in the

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real Hall of Fame. Again. This is another card that

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I think it's just a matter of time, whether the

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time is this year, but I think it will happen.

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Yeah, I mean talking about Brady. He had all the

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modern equipment and stuff to stay in shape. Bland that

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probably did it on beer, had nutrition and Garan pizza,

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you know, yeah, nothing else but that. Yeah. Next up

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as a card returned from last year, came very close,

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fifty seven Tops Poll Horning rookie card of the Packers.

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Here's another returning from last year, fifty seven Tops Dick

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Night Train Lane.

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Yeah, that's a classic.

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And now Ray heading into the sixties card number nineteen.

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This's the sixty two Tops Mike Dick, a rookie card.

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I'm surprised this one hasn't gone in yet because he

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was a great coach and a great player.

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Yeah yeah. And then even after his career, even after

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both of those careers were over, Ray player and coach,

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he still didn't just fade into oblivion. He was at ESPN,

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he was an analyst, he was a guest on many

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other football shows. He you know, he didn't mince words.

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You didn't have to wonder how he felt, which I

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always find refreshing and most people do. Not everybody, but

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most people. Yeah, I kind of that's an icon accept too.

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So another card that you know, maybe this is the

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again we'll see.

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I mean, it's kind of tough. It just goes to

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show how tough it is for years to get in. Yeah,

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and here is one of your favorites nineteen sixty two tops,

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Ernie Davis rookie.

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Yeah, listen, I got one. That's that's behind me. You know, listen,

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I'm in Syracuse. He's a Syracuse legend. Most you know,

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you've seen the movie The Express. Even if he didn't

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see the movie Express, you just know about his history.

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The number one first of the African American Heisman Trophy winner,

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only Heisman Trophy winner to come out of Syracuse University,

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the fields named after him at the Dome, and number

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one draft pick with the Browns who had already who

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already had another Syracuse running bag. You might have heard

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of the guy. His name is Jim Brown, I think.

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And then they drafted Ernie Davis to join him to

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be like this too a monster. Unfortunately, the story doesn't

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have a great ending with with Ernie coming down with leukemia.

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Uh.

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And obviously in those days, we didn't we don't have

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the medical uh stuff that we have now, and unfortunately

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never never got to live out his NFL dream. But

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for not living out that NFL dream, as sad as

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that is, he's still a legend in many ways, and

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maybe that plays into it a little bit. I know,

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I said I wasn't gonna politic I lied, I forgot

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about I didn't forget about this card. But I can't

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talk about it and not you know, have some personal

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inflection here, right, This is an icon of card. Uh people.

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A lot of people chase or want this card. This

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is a card I actually have more than one copy,

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and anytime I'm at a show or the National and

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I see one, I always, even though I already own it,

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I still contemplate adding more to what I already have.

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So it's a great card on the ballot.

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Yeah, I'm biased vote for Ernie, but that's I'll leave

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it at that and we'll go to.

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The next card is from the same set. One of

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my favorites is the sixty two tops of the Scrambler,

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fran Tarkenting great look at card.

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In those sets and for those that you know most

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people know, but those black bordered card sets condition obviously

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sensitive and I just love the you know, the two

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pictures and the inset. It's just a iconic set. Like

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I'm not a set collector anymore, Ray, but like that's

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how even has nothing to do with the Ernie Davis,

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even though it's in that obviously card in that set.

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If I ever did you know we all as collectors

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that man, if I ever did a vintage set, what

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what set would I pick? Well, if I had to

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pick a vintage football set, I think nineteeny two would

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probably be my first yep.

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Go wrong. And next up, now we're into this is

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another one of my favorites. Sixty three Fleeer. A lot

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of this is we're mainly AFL players of Lance Alworth

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Rookie card and uh, this card was one of the

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out This one of the cards outside looking in that

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finished very close to sixty three Fleer Lenn Dawson Rookie card.

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Great card. And then now we're going in the top

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sixty three tops of Ray mitchke Bart, one of Scott's

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favorite players. Scott's a Scotty tradition, big Packers fan, so

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he always says on this picture of this card, he's

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only twenty six years old, and he looks, you know yeah,

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sixty three you.

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Know yeah, Well when you hit, when you hit people

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that hard.

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It takes a lot out of you. Same from the

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same set, sixty three Tops Bob Lily and here is

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a new card ad it this year from Scott and

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bart the sixty three Tops Deacon Jones, one of my

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all time favorite players. Uh, creator of the head slap.

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I mean this duy is a big me mean great

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great defensive end.

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Yeah, many many quarterback didn't like to see him. On

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the eposite side.

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That's a cool looking car the green borders. It's a

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great looking car.

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Yep.

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A card that's returning from two years ago. Ballot brought

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back from Scott and Bartes to sixty a Tops Bob

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Greasy Rookie. And then here's a car from last year

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coming back to seventy tops O j. Simpson Rookie and

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the seventy one tops of Mean Joe Green from your team. Man.

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Listen, this is the reason I'm a Steeler fan is

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me and Joe that's my dude. They can't see it.

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It's up there. But I have a figurine and I've

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obviously got that card in more than one copy along

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with some other Me and Joe mean, Joe's my you

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know Jackie everyone knows like a Jackie Robinson guy in baseball. Well,

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me and Joe's my football equivalent to Jackie. And why

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I'm a Steeler fan to this day. The co commercial

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growing up in New York City, didn't like the Giants

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or the Jets, didn't know about the Bills. Uh yet,

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so me Joe will always be you know this this card.

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He's arguably one of the greatest defensive players ever. Forget

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who he played for, just as a as a player.

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So another card, I'm surprised not and yet that'll that'll

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be all I say there, you know, going back to

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the O. J. Simpson, uh rookie for you previously mentioned.

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We obviously know about all the stuff post career he's

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got the way I look at I get. I get

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how that might hinder that card because personal feelings and

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beliefs towards you know, whether he did that heinous crime

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or not. But again, as a football player, only separating

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the two, one of the greatest running backs to to

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ever do it. And you know he's gone now. If

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you if you're if you know, like Pete Rose, if

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he's like, well, I'm not putting him in while he's here,

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well that will be his punishment. He's gone now. So

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if you vote for the Simpson card, that makes you

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feel better. That not that he would know anyway, but

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like you know, using that sort of real Hall of

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Fame rationale, you know, separating the player from the off

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the field stuff. Just still and that card, you know,

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Ray as a dealer, I set up and I have

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that ship card sometimes in my cases doesn't last long.

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In my cases, I'll be very honest. People still want

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to own the card.

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Yeah, it is an iconic card. But going to Joe

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Green just to give you and your listeners heads up,

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this car finished ninth last year. Yeah it was in

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the top ten. Yeah, soga happened.

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That's Magga happened.

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Next up is the seventy seven top Steve Largent Rookie

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great Receiver from the Seahawks. Then we have the seventy

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eight tops Tony Dorset rookie from the Cowboys, Great running Back,

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seventy nine Tops are all Campbell. That pretty much completes

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the seventies.

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Tony Dorset to you as an Eagles fan, yeah, Earl

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Campbell's that to me as a Steelers fan, right, the

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emmesis running back that whether we beat that team or not,

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whether you know the Eagles beat the Cowboys or the

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Steelers beat the Oilers, those guys always did damage and

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if we lost, they were usually generally probably a key

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cock to why that happened happened. And even as playing

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on sort of our tribal teams, you know, you respect

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greatness even though they're not wearing your favorite uniform. And

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I think you with Dorset and me with Earl Campbell

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and Arol Campbell. You know, injuries took its toll on

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his career, but watch some of those old tapes. Yeah,

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a Jim Brown sort of feel to him. You know,

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it was obviously a post Brown, but he was sort

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of the the seventies and early eighties version of kind

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of to me, I just felt a little bit that

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from him. So again, another great candidate.

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Definitely, he was a he was a bruiser. Yeah, and

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here's another tough guy. The nineteen eighty two Top's Ronnie Lot,

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Brookie card Uh, some of his kids out there. Another

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story about Ronnie Lott. This was a guy at halftime

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had a broken finger and had the doctor's cut part

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of his finger off tape it pack.

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That's insane. Can you imagine like the doctor, the look

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on the doctor's face like what yeah, and then not

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only to have that procedure done ray, but then go

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back out there and play right, and now we got

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it again. I don't mean to sound you know, but

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it's true.

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But what you're gonna say is true. I mean you don't.

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See, like look into some of the today's games. They

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get a little stinger and they're questionable to return, and

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many times that's it for him for that game or

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the last couple of weeks.

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Yeah, around two or three goes to show the passion

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and the lovely half of the game. It wasn't about

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the money.

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It really was, and they weren't making Some of those

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guys had jobs in the off seasons. The Durance were

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doing like speaking engagements like they loved the game and

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they would do anything including get appendages amputated to play.

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That's crazy, and we're writing the same year now. Probably

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the greatest defensive player of all time, the eighty two

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tops Lawrence Taylor rookie. This finished, I want to say sixth,

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so it was the first card that missed being in

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last year two tops Lawrence Taylor rookie. Definitely, you know,

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my opinion, the greatest defensive player of all time.

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Yeah, that's an Eagles fan given accolades to it.

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I mean, I could stay Reggie White, you know. But yeah,

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let's be real, Lawrenceton.

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I'm gonna still save me and Joe and a quick

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fun story. I'll make this. I'll make this short. A

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couple of years ago with the National, I attended an

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after show party with a now defunct company and a

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lot of athletes were there. Was very cool. I got

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to meet my basketball idol, which is Chris Mullin from Brooklyn.

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That was cool. But Lawrence Taylor was there and I

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went up to him and talked to him and say,

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you know, Lawrence, pleasure meeting you, like you're the second

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greatest defensive player of all time in my book, you know,

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And he's like, oh, really, who's the first. I got

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to ask who's the first, and I'm like, oh, it's me,

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Joe Green. He goes you know what, this was him talking.

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He goes, I was ready to argue with you, but

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me and Joe was tremendous. And if I'm not going

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to be first and it's me and Joe, it's hard

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to argue. So I won't. And he proceeded to talk

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like I don't want to bug THEMS. I kept it

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like thanks, thanks, Lawrence, And he's kept grabbing me by

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the shoulder to stay and keep talking to me. Twenty minutes.

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And when Lawrence Taylor grabbed you by the shoulder, you

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don't really go. You don't really go anywhere.

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Could you imagine him on the Steel Curtain team with

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me Joe?

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That would be insane.

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Ham and Lambert would Taylor?

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Well, that one of those would probably not be there

474
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:13.880
if they had, you know, yeah, physically possible, but yeah,

475
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.519
cool moment. You know, even though I'm not necessarily with

476
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:20.319
Giants Fanner. But you can't argue he was a crazy dude,

477
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:25.400
still dude, but you can't argue with he changed when

478
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:29.480
he came along. He changed the linebacker position again, you know,

479
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.200
like a new iteration of it.

480
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.559
So yep, for sure. And next up we're into the

481
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:39.079
USFL era. This is the eighty four USFL Steve Young

482
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.559
rookie cart This is a returny from the twenty four ballot.

483
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:46.920
And speaking of USFL and great defensive players, eighty four

484
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:50.519
USFL Reggie White, rookie. I will say, maybe not the

485
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.119
greatest all around defensive player, but I do have him

486
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.200
as the greatest defensive vandal of all time.

487
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.279
Yep. I don't argue that. I won't argue that. I

488
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:00.839
kind of feel the same way. And this is a

489
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.720
card that it's not a short pert necessary, but you

490
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.920
don't see these all the time. They're not all over

491
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.720
the you know, you see Marino rookies and Montana rookies.

492
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.200
You turn left, you turn right. This is one of

493
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.400
those cards, and again a lot of people want. It's

494
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.240
on a lot of people's left, which is saying something

495
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.000
from the defensive side of the ball right. Yeah, everyone

496
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.359
likes to touchdown guys and the quarterbacks and the running

497
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:30.160
back and the receivers. But Reggie YUSF outcard. This one

498
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.000
kind of you know, that just shows you how much

499
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.240
competition there is in this field. A card like that

500
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:39.200
is still on the outside looking for sure, yep.

501
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:43.119
And next up is in nineteen eighty nine Pro set

502
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.720
Santa Claus card. Then this card's been hanging around for years.

503
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:51.160
It's been doing pretty well. Same year. Now we're onto

504
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.359
the eighty nine score of Dion Sanders's Rookie Card Prime Time,

505
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.480
so that's a great card, and the eighty nine score

506
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:03.880
supplemental Boat Jackson. This card finished pretty high. As matter

507
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.000
of fact, it finished I think it was around twentieth

508
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.000
twenty first and the low twenties, which is pretty good. Both.

509
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:13.720
Jackson great iconic figure in football. As a shame what

510
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:17.240
happened to him. He would have been believable. And here's

511
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.720
a nineteen ninety pro set promos. It's a return from

512
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:23.559
Bart Scott from two years ago of the classic Vince

513
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:28.480
Lombardi Trophy card. And then we have the nineteen ninety

514
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:33.720
score supplemental EMITTT. Smith Rookie card beautiful car, blue borders.

515
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.559
Yeah, I'm not a dobviously, I'm not a Dallas fan

516
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:40.799
being a Steeler fan, but Emmett Smith for me was

517
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.039
one of those guys that I sort of rooted for,

518
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.920
even though it was the Cowboys. I can't speak for

519
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.960
you being an Eagles fan, same division, this was a

520
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.960
different conference. For me. Well, what I loved about Emmett

521
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.559
Ray was like he did his talking with his play

522
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.400
in the field. He wasn't a big raw rock guy.

523
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.359
You know. He scored touch and he'd handle the ball

524
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.160
to the ref and you know, sort of the odds

525
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.759
against some kind of small in stature for the running

526
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.119
back position. Many people didn't think he'd have a great

527
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:14.279
career with his size coming out of Florida of the Gators,

528
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:16.680
and he proved a lot of people wrong and became

529
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.079
the rushing leader of all time at least as of

530
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.160
right now. And I think doesn't get enough credit. And

531
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.720
like you said, this is not kind of card with

532
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.400
the dark borders. Only comes out of a supplemental set,

533
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.200
so you're not gonna pull this card out of a pack.

534
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.839
And I just think it's a great card because it's

535
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.640
just not a million of them, you know. I think

536
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.160
that that goes into some of the lore of these cards.

537
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:46.759
How many, how easy or not easy are they to find?

538
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.759
And it's not a short printed card. But being that

539
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.000
it doesn't come out of you're going to can't pull

540
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.240
it out of a pack. You have to have a set,

541
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.079
and these are factory Seld sets, so to get the

542
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.640
actual card someone has to take the cellophane off the set,

543
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.599
break the seal and pull the card out right and

544
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.559
then obviously break the set up.

545
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.720
So yeah, and the blue border is really nice. And

546
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.640
for people looking this card up, they're playing against the giants.

547
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.240
And if I'm not mistaken, the guy that's chasing him

548
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.400
down could be Lawrence Taylor. Yeah, yep, because I see

549
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.839
a number five right behind him, but I don't.

550
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.960
See they think it might be it's Lawrence Taylor.

551
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.079
After this is a card that hung around, just barely

552
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.720
hung around. Last year, the ninety one Stadium Club Brett

553
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.440
Favrookie finished I think thirty or fortieth, so it was

554
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:39.839
the last card to continue one.

555
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:44.720
Yeah, and another guy right post careers. Some controversy, I

556
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.559
think I take that probably hurts the cards. Candidacy, truth

557
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:49.559
be told.

558
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.079
A little bit. Yeah, And after that we have the

559
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:58.119
ninety eight sp authentic Peyton Manning Rookie card, trying to

560
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:00.240
get into some of the modern to show everybody, you know,

561
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:01.680
we too, not just the vintage.

562
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:05.160
Yeah yeah, and these are you know, we say modern

563
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.359
ninety eight, that's a year old car.

564
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.000
Now, you know that's funny for me?

565
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.799
Yeah? Yeah, No, you're right, it's funny. We can laugh

566
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.000
at that. To someone else, they're like, yeah, I had

567
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:24.000
ten years to be born yet you know so, And

568
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:26.599
I'm a big Peyton Manning guy. I think you know,

569
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.599
he's got a couple of rings with the Colts, one

570
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.599
with the Broncos, played in the same error with Brady,

571
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.160
which I don't think helped him. But you know, I

572
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.759
make the argument and people, you know, some people will

573
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.759
agree with me and others think I'm nuts. I like

574
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.759
quarterback wise, like Peyton Manning's right there with Tom Brady,

575
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.440
just doesn't have as many rings. He didn't have the

576
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.960
support cast in the same way that Brady did or

577
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.160
even the coaching. Uh you know, there was no Belichick

578
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.359
with Manning. So I love picking up not just you know,

579
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.160
just Peyton Manning, rookies in general because I think they're

580
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.759
like tremendously undervoved and here's a guy still doing it

581
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:08.759
today on TV and just funny. It could be his

582
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.960
comedic career was almost as good as this quarterback Quarterback

583
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.240
Chops along with the brother Eli and even Cooper gets

584
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.680
in on the action too lately.

585
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.000
Yeah yeah, Well, speaking of Tom Brady, the next card

586
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.400
is this two thousand playoff contenders. Tom Brady autograph card,

587
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.359
which is very rare to find that car.

588
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:33.039
Do you think this is another one like there? You

589
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:35.480
can make an argument that of all these cards, that's

590
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.920
what might be on many people's Hey, you get only

591
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:40.880
one of these cards, but you get to keep it.

592
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.359
Many people would take this Brady card. Do you think

593
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.759
because of how expensive it is, maybe he's hurting it's

594
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:52.319
it's candidcy because they can't visualize really owning it in

595
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:53.799
the realistic scenario.

596
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:56.720
Yeah, I think that's part of it, as well as

597
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.759
that people are looking at what they think they can afford.

598
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.799
But it beans that this card is not just a

599
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.680
base it's an autograph on there as well, which really

600
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.799
jacks up the price in his card. Probably does steer

601
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.480
people away from thinking, well, I would never hone this

602
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.319
card anyway. But truth be told, people have to really

603
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.359
look at the card, not look at what they think

604
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:17.519
they would be able to hone it.

605
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:18.680
Yep, yep.

606
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.880
And the last, but not least is a twenty seventeen

607
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.759
Now this is modern Panini prison prison. Patrick Mahomes rookie,

608
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.880
this is actually Cartech got bumped two years ago and

609
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.400
Bart Scott brought this one back because I mean, he's

610
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.359
a three time super Bowl champion, could win war before

611
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.200
his career is over. They revamped the offense a little bit.

612
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.319
He's still a young guy. Could win one, maybe even

613
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:43.599
two more, who knows.

614
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.720
I agree with you. I think there's one or two

615
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.240
more rings before is all of the said and done.

616
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:51.599
Unless you know, things just get off track. God forbid

617
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:52.119
an injury.

618
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:52.599
You know.

619
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.240
I know he's injured now, but he's tracking back to

620
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.960
be ready for for next on him out, you know.

621
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.960
And that's a smart organization he's in. I think they'll

622
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.599
figure some things out. I think there's at least one

623
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.719
more ring somewhere in the horizon before all and said

624
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:12.239
and done. And even if he doesn't get another ring

625
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.320
where I think you'll agree with this. I mean, he's

626
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.360
gonna be in the Hall of Fame. Injury, he's gonna be,

627
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.400
I think. I here's the question if he if he

628
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:23.400
stopped playing today, does he get is the Hall of Famer?

629
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:24.159
I think so?

630
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.280
In your Yeah, I agree, I think I never really

631
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.840
thought about it till I just asked you. But yeah,

632
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.800
I think he thinks a Hall of Fame prison Rookie

633
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.440
card I mean ken, you know, like my saying goes,

634
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.000
I'm not throwing that out.

635
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.440
Of bed, but that was the last one on the ballot.

636
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.159
Yeah, that it's it's so tough because only five, right, Like,

637
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:51.119
there's just gonna be so many that are worthy, as

638
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.159
we just discussed, right that you can make a case

639
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.360
for every single one of these cards to be in

640
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:59.159
and maybe at some point they all will be over

641
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:04.039
the years. Yeah, but you know, five we're gonna get in. Uh,

642
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.519
you know, tell people we're gonna we're gonna make some

643
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.760
picks on the playoffs being you know, this weekend. But

644
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.159
before we do that and kind of and again I'll

645
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.119
put this in the show notes, so you know, don't

646
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.199
catch Ray telling you. Look in the show notes click

647
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.440
the link there. But where can people go when it

648
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:26.960
is voting start? End? And where do people go to vote?

649
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:31.360
Yeah, voting started on Monday, January nineteenth, so it's currently

650
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.920
active now and people can go to my channel Ray

651
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.679
from Philly on YouTube. The link is down below and

652
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.119
they can just hit on the link and there will

653
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.639
be the ballot. Voting ends on Friday, February sixth for

654
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.480
that Super Bowl weekend. Myself Bart at Bart's cards in

655
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.880
scott a scanty tradition, will record that night on Friday,

656
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.440
and it'll be released on Super Bowl Sunday or actually

657
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.320
I think on the day before. So it's gonna be

658
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.119
on Super Bowl weekend, which we poly tind of because

659
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.559
we thought that was the perfect time. That that's cool. Yeah,

660
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.159
on super Bowl weekend. So yeah, it's gonna it's trivia,

661
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:08.639
a lot of fun. You could vote for up to

662
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:11.199
ten cards, but only the top five getmes.

663
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.960
Yeah, that's cool. Well the only one, listen, the only

664
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:20.239
politicket I'll do. Uh, vote for me, Joe, for Everie Davis.

665
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.559
That's and and obviously I'll be along with eight other

666
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.199
cards as well. I won't mention the other I'll let

667
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.679
that the secret. But you know, two of them, I'll

668
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.039
let you out of the bag if you will. But listen,

669
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.400
I know they're not here. But like you mentioned, you know,

670
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:42.239
Barton Scotty, just continue in this tradition, which I believe

671
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.119
is important. I think it has a place. Uh there's

672
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:49.039
there's you know, like we have regular sports, all the fames,

673
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.079
why not you know, we have iconic athletes, we have

674
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:53.119
iconic cards.

675
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:57.360
Yeah, absolutely, and both deserve a lot of credit. Because

676
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.840
it resist to me. Those two football guys are really knowledgeable.

677
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.599
Bart's cards and Scanni tradition. I mean, they do a

678
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.119
lot of work in picking the ballot. It's not easy

679
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.360
leave me, I know because I picked the baseball card ballot,

680
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.480
and people are always questioning this that or anything else.

681
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.119
So they do a great job for sure.

682
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.000
No doubt. And you know, it's it's always fun to vote, right,

683
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.760
and it's power to the people, Like the people are

684
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.039
voting for these cards, and so you have it's not

685
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.679
your group saying hey, here's the five cards we picked

686
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.639
this year. The people make those picks with their votes,

687
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.280
and I think that's uh, that's cool. And like I

688
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.119
said before during the intro, the next time we do

689
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.639
this next year, it'll be the long form version. We'll

690
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.639
have graphics. We'll have Barton Scottie hopefully along with us.

691
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.880
So we'll go four wide and maybe get a little

692
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.159
you know, a little deeper dive.

693
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:55.480
Uh yeah, definitely.

694
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.960
All right, So you're the guest, I'm gonna give you

695
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.039
the picks. Let you make your first and then i'll

696
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.679
tell you. You know, if I have it the same,

697
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.440
I'm not here what you say, I already know where

698
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.760
I'm going because I thought about it, and truth be told,

699
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.280
I'm a little bit of a sports better. I don't

700
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.719
it's not I don't bet my mortgage in my house,

701
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.480
but I throw a few bucks here and there on

702
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:23.119
on you know, baseball and football, more football, you know,

703
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:26.159
let's start with the a f C. Got two strong

704
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:30.719
defensive units, two young quarterbacks, uh In bow Knicks and

705
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.880
Drake May Broncos Patriots. It's in Denver. How do you know?

706
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.840
How do you who do you see coming out and

707
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.880
headed to the super Bowl in this one?

708
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:43.559
Well, if I'm not mistaken, I think bow Mix is.

709
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:48.280
L oh that's right. Yeah, yeah, we got Jared Stidham. Yeah,

710
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.440
I've just had you know, I liked you know, yeah,

711
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.039
good call. Thank you for I knew that I just

712
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.480
had a brain fart. Yeah, and that maybe that factors

713
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.679
into your pick were my pay Yeah, you know, I'll

714
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:03.079
let you go first.

715
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.519
Because if bow Knicks was playing in Denver at home,

716
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.000
I was gonna pick Denver all the way. But it's

717
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.840
a big change now. Even though the head coach I

718
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.519
forgot his name for the Denver Broncos, Sean Payton, he

719
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.800
seems very confident that He's done this before with backup quarterbacks,

720
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.440
but I don't know. This is a little different. This

721
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.440
is a week to prepare, it's a championship game. I

722
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.519
know it's home in front of his home crowd. And

723
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.840
I do think Sean Payton is a great coach. He

724
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:35.199
I think he will get more than what people expect

725
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.400
out of this Stidham backup quarterback. He'll do better than

726
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.159
people think. Be that as it may. Drake May is

727
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:44.440
having a phenomenal year. If bow Knicks was playing, I

728
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.880
would slightly give the edge to Denver bro I'm going

729
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:47.719
with New England.

730
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.159
Man. You almost it's like you read my mind. This

731
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.760
is exactly kind of how I see it. It's sad

732
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.079
that Knicks got hurt on sort of, you know, towards

733
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.920
the end of the game. And if you see the play, yeah,

734
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.320
it doesn't look it's not like a devastating headed just

735
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.920
the way you got rolled up. Yeah, and it's unfortunate

736
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.599
like that may be a factor to why the rest

737
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.000
of the team doesn't move on. I'm not gonna spend

738
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:18.000
a lot of time. You kind of see almost verbatim

739
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.400
as I do. And you made another point I agree with,

740
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.360
even with Stidham. You know, I think this game, being

741
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:28.039
Denver at home, they still got a great defense. This

742
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:32.840
game's probably closer than people might think with bow Nick's

743
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.000
not playing. So I'm with you. I think the Patriots

744
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.280
win a close one. I think Dick's not being there.

745
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.519
I'm not gonna say that's the only difference, but it

746
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.960
definitely hurts Denver's chances. So we're we're in the same

747
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.280
side of the aisle there. Let's head over to the NFC.

748
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:56.239
You got the Rams Seahawks. This is a division. This

749
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:59.800
is the third time they're gonna play this year, so

750
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:04.639
very familiar with each other. How do you see this

751
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:06.360
one winding up?

752
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.400
Well? Seattle, they say in the NFL is the toughest

753
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.039
place to play on the road. The fans, they're the

754
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:17.079
decibel up over there is quite deafening. It's really tough

755
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:21.239
to win on the road. And Seattle's having a quietly

756
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.920
great year this year. Their running game of Kenneth Walker

757
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.599
has finally woken up. They finally figured out how to

758
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:32.800
use Kenneth Walker. Sam Darnold, his career has been resurgence.

759
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.599
Be that as it may, I'm picking the Rams. I

760
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:41.920
think Matt Stafford his experience and poking the kula. They

761
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.280
have two good running backs. I like Blake Krum and

762
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.519
Irian Williams. They're good. I mean, I think the coach

763
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.840
that they have is the best coach in the league

764
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.400
by far. I think McVeigh is number one without Adele.

765
00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:59.960
And I think you're going to have a Patriots Rams

766
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:06.559
rematch from when Brady Kurt Warner on a TIERI field

767
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:07.320
goal at the end.

768
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.920
Would you get inside my head Bray now like this

769
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:14.840
this is insane because listen again, I think we're along

770
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:15.920
the same lines here.

771
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:17.480
Darn.

772
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.039
You know, Sam Donald kind of has revived his career,

773
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.440
got a second chance again. You know a lot of

774
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.239
people had thrown him on the trash heap as he

775
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:31.840
was a bus pick, you know, revived his career in Minnesota. Uh,

776
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.119
and then then took that to Seattle, had to, like

777
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:39.639
you said, had a tremendous year. You know, Jackson Smith

778
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.440
and Jigba arguably the number one receiver in the NFL.

779
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.639
I think the difference in this game, and this would

780
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:49.920
be another one. Listen to all the games they've played

781
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:53.599
this year been very competitive, very close. I think this

782
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.400
one as well, Like you said, Seattle is a tough

783
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.000
place to play, but I, like you, I am going

784
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:03.039
with the Rams. I just feel like some of Donald's

785
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:07.400
bad games have happened against the Rams. And I'm not

786
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.159
saying he's a bad quarterback, but I think he's due

787
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:13.079
for maybe not a great game, maybe not even a

788
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:17.920
bad game. And I think obviously Stafford's the older, veteran quarterback,

789
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.000
less likely to maybe make a mistake, and I think

790
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.440
that might be the difference. And he's got two incredible

791
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:31.000
receivers with Pukin Nakua and DeVante Adams. We talked about

792
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.239
the two running backs and Williams and korm I think,

793
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.400
and both defenses are very similar and very good. I

794
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.119
think it's gonna be another close game. We got two

795
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:45.719
great games this weekend. I think it's the Rams, though.

796
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.719
I think there's a Donald mistake late in the second

797
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:54.519
half of the game that unfortunately costs the Seahawks to

798
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.000
move not move on. And like you, I got it

799
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:03.760
Rams Rams Patriots rematch. That being said, let's you know,

800
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.239
we're not going to have another show before the Super Bowl,

801
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.840
so let's assume where Geniu says, and we're right, you

802
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.599
got winning these Rams Patriots super Bowl match.

803
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.280
Oh, that's tougher. I would give the slight edge to

804
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.000
Stafford only because if they're down, which I could see

805
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.639
them being down late in the game. He's a veteran

806
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:27.639
quarterback that I could see him pulling off a drive

807
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.320
save from the thirty yard line or something, putting the

808
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.679
team at least within field goal range if they're down

809
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.960
by the best in the field goal or even giving

810
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.280
them a shot to go to score a touchdown if

811
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:41.639
they need be. That's a really tough one. I'm going

812
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.239
to have a very very slight edge to the Rams.

813
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.159
All right, We in agreement, but in a little bit

814
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.480
of in a different way. I don't. I think if

815
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.039
this is what the matchup is and that's what we're assuming,

816
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:56.159
I don't think it's a blowout, but I think the

817
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:59.679
Rams pull away in the second half. Drake may young,

818
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.840
he's he's you know, he's not playing terrible, but he

819
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.320
has turned the ball over in recent games. And I

820
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:09.159
think that Super Bowl, well, I think Drake may eventually

821
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:12.239
wins the Super Bowl. I do. I just don't think

822
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.480
this is going to be the year it happens. If

823
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:18.320
they wind up. Actually, I think even if the Seahawks,

824
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.360
I think I think it's I think whoever wins the

825
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.519
NFC game wins wins the Super Bowl. So I'm gonna

826
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:30.639
go with the Rams. I think May a couple of mistakes. Stafford,

827
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:34.360
you know, plays sound football, and you know they win

828
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:39.159
by nine or ten points. Yeah, be wrong, Listen, we're human, right,

829
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.920
Just don't take any what me or Ray says, and

830
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.320
bet if you do, that's on you don't call us

831
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:49.719
and we owe you money. I think I think the

832
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.280
Rams win. I don't think it's maybe as close as

833
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.880
you said. I think just the veteran you know in

834
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.599
New England, the very young team they're on to come up.

835
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.960
This is a team that won like four games last year.

836
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.519
As you probably know, Ray, what Rabel's done, and that

837
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.360
quick amount of time is just studying.

838
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.280
Yeah, so this team is gonna.

839
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.639
Be a force to be reckoned with in the AFC,

840
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.239
probably for years to come. I think May and Rabel

841
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:24.280
get another Lombardi post Belichick there. I just don't think

842
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:26.800
this will be the year. We both could be wrong,

843
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.079
That's why we watched the games. But I think it's

844
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.119
the NFC Super Bowl to lose, if you will, So yeah,

845
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.800
I agree, you know, I think Obviously the Knicks injury

846
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.559
plays into that as well. I think May is just

847
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.400
he's right there, but he's I don't think he's ready.

848
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.599
I think the hotlights might be a little too hot

849
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.920
this year. But I think eventually he'll get it done.

850
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.079
I just don't think this year. But whatever the case

851
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.239
may be, you know, it's football. I love watching it,

852
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.000
and hopefully my Steelers can get back the promise. We're

853
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.440
gonna have a new guy wearing a headset on the sideline.

854
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.840
As of this recording, we don't know who that is yet,

855
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.159
but you know, and I like Mike Tomlin Ray, but

856
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.679
you know, you notice, I think with the Andy Reid

857
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.639
and sometimes when the coach is there so long, the

858
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:24.280
voice gets lost. It's like it doesn't resonate the same way.

859
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.760
And I think that's what happened with Tom. And we

860
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.559
hadn't won a playoff game in nine years. And not

861
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.679
only have we not won a playoff game, the ones

862
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.519
we got and we got run out of the gym

863
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.400
and lost by double digits every time. And I think

864
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.639
it's time to try a different approach, a new direction.

865
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:45.000
We might take a few lumps in four years for

866
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.960
a couple of years, until we can. But it's worth it,

867
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:51.079
you know. That's the other thing. When you win nine

868
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.159
or ten games, you don't get a high draft pick, right,

869
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.239
And we got to figure out the quarterback situation too,

870
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.159
so but it's fun to watch it. You know. I'll

871
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:05.320
always be a Steeler fan, regardless of who the coach is

872
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.920
it and uh, I appreciate you making some time again,

873
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:13.760
UH for future renditions of this will be on the

874
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.199
bigger show with more bells and whistles. But I also

875
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.960
didn't want to not cover the football card Hall of Him,

876
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:25.159
thank you either, So so thanks Ray and for everyone else,

877
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:31.039
go vote, go watch them football and enjoy the enjoy joy,

878
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.239
enjoy it as we come down to the end of

879
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:34.119
the football season.

880
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:34.960
Thank you.