Feb. 13, 2026
Lauren Rizzo Shaffer is back! E375
Lauren Rizzo Shaffer returns to the podcast.
Talking points on this episode may include:
*State of the Hobby Union
*Doing Shows and Dealer approach
*Buying and Selling
*Thoughts on progress of Women in the Hobby.
*Hobby writing and hitting the block.
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Sports guard Nations, Hobbies, the People, Wheely News and Interviews.
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It's you on number.
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One Soul Sports Garnation. Hobby is the People.
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Sports guar Nation. What is up? Everybody? Welcome to episode
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three seventy five sportscard Nation. As always, Glad to be back.
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Hope you enjoyed the Super Bowl. Not the greatest super
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Bowl all time, actually pretty boring by Super Bowl standards,
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but I do believe the best team won the game.
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Congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks on their second Super Bowl ring. Glad.
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I have my guest on, who I consider a good
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friend in the hobby. She's back again. I believe this
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is her second appearance on the show. I could be wrong.
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She's also my Hobby Hotline teammates, one of them of
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the sixteen and Laurena zo'shaeffer and very talented young lady.
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She's a dealer along with her husband Brian, like myself,
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and so we're gonna talk a little bit about, you know,
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being a dealer, traveling, how do you get your stuff there?
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All that fun stuff. But we're gonna chop up some
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hobby as well. So it's been a little bit before
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we had her on it figured it's a good time
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to kind of catch back up. So she is today's guest,
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and I'm very happy to have her on the show.
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Always enjoy having the next guest on the Sports Cardination podcast.
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She's been on here before and she hopefully she'll come
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back even after this episode again, but always a pleasure
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and I consider her a very good friend. Lauren Rizzio Schaeffer,
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Lauren goes here, welcome back as.
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Always, thank you for having me. I'm so happy to
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be back.
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Yeah no, yeah, thank you is more than thank me.
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So but uh, you know, you're you're you're very you're
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pretty active in the hobby or your you're a teammate
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of mine on hobby Hotline there. I always say, you know,
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glad to have you amongst the six folks that we
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do have involving that show. Now you're a veteran. I
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think the maybe the you know, the last either the
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last time in the one you were more newer, but
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now you're you're one of the vets and do a
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great job. And uh, you know just kind of where
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the hobby is right now, like you know, you know,
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is a hobby in a healthy place. I know what's
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doing well, and sometimes you know, and I think you'll
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agree with this one. I think sometimes we put too
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much emphasis on the dollar signs, and obviously it's doing
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well if we look at it just from that perspective.
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I'm not trying to say that it's not important, but
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to me, it's gotta be more than that. Like, where
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do you how do you see where we are right
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now here as we start twenty twenty six.
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I think we're in a pretty good spot. I just
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went to the first card show the year in Dallas,
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the Dallas Card Show, and we set up and we
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had a great time, and it was packed. There were
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so many people there, so I think, I mean, if
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you want an indication of interest, that was definitely there
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at the Dallas Card Show, which is a great show
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to go to. So for it to be the first
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card show of the year and for people to come
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out and be excited and be active, I mean, I
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think we're off to a good start, at least for
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twenty twenty six.
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Yeah, no doubt. You know it shows, that's a whole
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We could do a show on shows, right and I
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did shows and we've and we've talked about this even
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on Hobby hotline south right. We're getting a lot more shows.
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We're getting them in countries that haven't had them before.
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We're getting them me it's not even a you know,
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uh uh, you know, a nation of national thing necessarily,
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but we're even getting shows in smaller cities that have
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never had them here in the States and not just abroad.
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Do you think there's a point, And I guess the
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easy answer is to say, well, we'll get to that
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point when people stop going to them. But do you
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think there's a tipping the scales points where there can
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be too many shows too often?
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I'm sure, I'm sure it's possible, but I don't. I
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think we're a long way off from that personally. I
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think also different shows are different purposes. Like we we
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go to not a ton of shows, but we set up,
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you know, quite a few. And we've been to you know,
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Not Express, which is a you know, festival with a
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card show. We've been to National Now and set up.
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We've been to Dallas Card Show many times, it's our favorite.
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We've been to the West Coast Card Show. And they
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all are different. They all have different energy, they have
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different crowds, they have different purposes, they have different scopes.
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So I think, I personally, if it is possible, which
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nothing's impossible, I think we're a long way off from that.
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I think everybody who puts on a card show right
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now that is able to do it again knows that
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it's it's grueling and it's I mean the Culture Collision show,
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it's a new show and it's doing really well, and
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they you know, we're starting to expand to more shows,
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you know, more than one a year, and it's it's hard,
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and Raphael works really hard to make that show successful.
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And I think, but I think it's necessary. I think
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that you know, people like Raphael saw that there was
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a a need and he filled that need. And so
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I think that the ones, I think it with a
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lot of things in the hobby, if it's not done well,
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or it's not done with good intention, it it won't last.
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So I think that there may be one day too
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many card shows, but I think the ones that serve
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a great purpose for a great amount of people, they'll
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always thrive, they'll always be there.
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So how many shows are you getting to as a
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consumer where you're not necessarily set up and you're just
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going to take it in? Buy cars, sell whatever, and
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how many are you doing as a dealer as I do.
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Most of the time we are setting up as a dealer.
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We have a camper and we you know, take road
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trips and stuff. So there are times where a lot
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of the time when we're just going to a card show,
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just walking around checking it out, not setting up. It's
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when we're on the road and you know, the timing
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is just right that we've hit when there are card
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shows close to us. So majority of the shows we're
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setting up. And where I'm at, there actually was a
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card show this past weekend, but where I'm at in
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central Florida, we don't have a big card community. We
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don't have a big card show, so you know, so
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this one we didn't set up. It was mostly TCG,
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so I think that was part of it. But also
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it wasn't advertised super well. I live here and I
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didn't know anything about it until like two days before
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because my local hobby shop was sponsoring the trade night.
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That's how I found out. So most of the shows
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we go to, we do set up as a dealer,
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but we do like to just kind of cruise around
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and see and feel out, like you know what it's
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like at different shows because it's also just fun. It's
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just fun to see like what different crowds are, like,
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what different people are collecting, what they have to show,
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like and just talk to people. My favorite time to
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talk to people is at card shows when we're set
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up because it's very easy. You have a very easy
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end for a conversation, and you know, and nobody feels
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better like cutting conversation shorter, moving on. So I know,
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I'm like taking this question to its aally different places.
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But no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
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Yeah, just I like I like better when we're set
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up because you know, we're I feel like I'm actually
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like serving a purpose when I'm talking to somebody. But
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I but we do like to just go check out
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card shows, walk around just you know, see Brian goes
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with very strong intention. He likes to go and be
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like with a purpose, whereas I just I'm like, yeah, cards,
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like obviously I want to be in a room full
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of people and cards. So but most of the time
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we're set up. But he he's the main you know,
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seller guy, so I get to kind of like walk
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around more often than well used to. Now I'm the security,
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I'm top dog security for us, so I have to
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see the table now. But yeah, I like, I like
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setting up more at shows than anything for me.
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So yeah, and you're luck as a dealer myself and
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I set up now, I'm usually set up with some
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friends of mine and hobby aquaintances. Well, so if I
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really wanted to, like obviously got to use the wrestroom
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or what have you. If I wanted to walk around,
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it probably can't. I can, but sometimes it gets tricky
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because then I have my stc like bolk subber table,
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and that's usually pretty happened. So I don't get to
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walk around as much as as i'd like to, And
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I don't know that might be good and bad. It
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probably saves me some money stays in my wallet rather
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than funneled out. You know, as a dealer talking to
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a dealer, has your approach changed with how you do
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shows as you do one?
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Yeah, I guess you know. It's I think, like with anything,
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especially in the hobby, you just kind of learn what
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feels right. So we've done enough Dell's card shows that
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it's like we have our we have our routine, we
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know what works, and if we're flying, it's different than
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if we're driving with the camper, but we have you know, routine,
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and you know, we kind of hone it in, So yeah,
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I did. I will say I sat next to somebody
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this last card show. He was sharing the table with
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the guy who's next to us all the time. And
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he's newer to the hobby and he never set up before,
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and he he just had one case, but he had
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a bunch of stuff. But you know, he was new,
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so he was still figuring things out. But he we talked,
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and he talked to a lot of people, you know,
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a lot of content creators that were coming through, you know,
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expressed like gratitude to them. He learned a lot from them. Whatever.
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But I got to share a little bit of knowledge
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too in talking to him while we were there. And
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one of the things I told him is and it
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was late. It was late Saturday, so we'd already been
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set up Thursday, Friday all day Saturday. It was slammed
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at Dallas, which was great, but it was later in
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the day on Saturday, and I told him that one
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of the things I used to do that I don't
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do anymore. I used to greet everybody who like stopped
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and paused at our table. I used to say, you know,
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hi as a go into everybody, and that's not sustainable
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for me anymore. So I told them, I said, you know,
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I'm polite, I pay attention, but I'm not like I
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don't like ask how you're doing, and like try to
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you know, I try not to treat everybody like a
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customer in a shop, you know. I try to let
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them breathe now if they're just walking, you know, because
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sometimes they're just checking things out, and you know, you
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get them kind of roped into a conversation they feel
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like they can't leave or whatever. But also for me,
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it trains so much of my energy and then I'm
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I'm just spent and I can't like think or process
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as well as i'd like. So I'm trying to. I
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told them, I said, you know, you get better about
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your social battery and kind of lending it out. So
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that's one thing that's not like a tangible card thing.
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I think that for us, I've I've definitely adapted that.
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Like if I want to have the energy to like
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also then go to trade night or to see my
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other friends, or you know, to go look at cards. Myself,
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I can't expend my social battery on every person that
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walks by.
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So yeah, and especially on multi day shows even more so, right,
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which I don't really that we don't have them in
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this area like we used to. So most of the
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shows I'm setting up with are just it's that day
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and that's it, right, So I can get away with
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talking a little bit more than if that was a
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two to three Friday Saday type show or even Thursday
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Friday said, you know, four day show. So I fully
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get that, and I compare people too. And maybe this
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is not the greatest analogy, Lauren, but like it's an
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Uber ride, right, if you ever were an Uber driver
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or a rider, right, some people get in and they
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want to talk, like from the jump Street, let's go, hey,
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how's your day? You know, house business? Is you busy today?
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And then you have other writers that like they're in
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show is like that with people attending the show, right,
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