Karvin Cheung's influence on the hobby is probably more than you realize.  He's a risk taker who decisions have had positive effects. He returns for part 2 of our conversation on this episode.  

Talking points on this episode may include:

*The Evolution of the Hobby

*Wearing different hobby hats

*Working for Upper Deck, Working for Panini

*The Legend of the Exquisite brand

*Grail item

*Would you like to see multiple licensing again?

*Taking Risks

*NSCC Discussion 

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