June 29, 2026

State of the Grading Space E232

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The Grading Space continues to change, evolve, regress all at the same time. It's been a bit since we checked in and covered it, so let's dive in on this episode.

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You know, we did that three part special with the

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NFL Draft review with Dan de Tour. I hope you

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enjoyed that a little different.

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UH.

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It's recording from his UH podcast and and UH radio show,

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but gave us permission to use it and figured why not. Right,

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It's it's you know, there is no off season UH

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in football. And we did the Q and A a couple

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of weeks back, but we're we're back on our hobby grind,

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if you will. And today's topic is definitely hot button

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in the hobby slash industry, right, and that's grating and

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the terrain and everything that's entailed, price increases, price levels

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being paused, you know, controversy, everything. We're going to really

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dive into it today. I've done these before, but it's

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been a while, so it's time to update sort of

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where we are in the grading landscape. And so that's

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what today's episode is going to tackle so, you know,

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full disclosure on a bolk suburb for SGC. So I

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come with a little bit of that angle as well.

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Okay, Now a quick word from our great sponsor, followed

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All right, let's go through the next couple weeks of

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hobby releases if you will not a busy couple weeks,

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just you know, a smattering of products. Let's go through

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them in order. Starting July first, twenty twenty six, Tops,

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Marvel Comics Chrome Blasters and Hobby the following day, July second,

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twenty five, Slash twenty six, Upper Deck Parkhurst Hockey going

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to the Thirdies are all from July third, twenty twenty six,

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Leaf Glory of the Game, Soccer twenty twenty six, Panini Donners,

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Elite Baseball, Pokemon Mega, Grinina Ex Premium Collection. Yeah, somehow

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I got through that. Staying on the third, twenty twenty

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six Wild Card, Matt Metal Soccer, Road to Glory. A

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lot of soccer products coming out. Wonder why. Some kind

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of big tournament going on July eighth, Star Trek, Voyager,

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Archives and Inscriptions. Staying on the eighth, the twenty twenty

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six Tops Finest Baseball, The Delight Edition, Hobbies and Megas

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also on the eighth, the twenty twenty six Tops Marvel

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Comics Chrome Mega following day on the ninth, twenty twenty

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twenty twenty six Keepsake bon Jovi Tour Collection same day,

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twenty five Slash twenty six Tops Motif Basketball. Also twenty

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twenty five Slash twenty six Tops Pristine Premiers League Soccer.

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Also on the ninth, twenty twenty five, Slash twenty six

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Top Shuifa Club Competitions, Museum Collection Soccer, Hat trick and Hobby.

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Also on the ninth, twenty twenty six Upper at Goodwin

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champions and three products to close out July tenth, twenty

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twenty six Leaf Metal Draft Edition Baseball, Hobby and Megas

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and twenty twenty five Tops Chrome Black Football actually two

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products rather than three, but two editions with the Metal

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Draft Baseball.

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So there you go. You know, twelve to fifteen.

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Products to choose and pick from choose wisely, Happy ripping.

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Let's go round the hobby verse and catch up on

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this week's hobby news.

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And find out well hobby hobby news. I definitely feel

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like we need to talk about or mention yantas Anacopo

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is no longer Milwaukee's going to Miami in a trade deal.

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His brother was soon waived by Milwaukee is expected to

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sign with Miami. So one of the big guns in

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the NBA is got a new home. To South Beach,

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and obviously it's going to have a hobby impact. And

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I'll make the argument that this is the one of

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the biggest acquisitions for Miami, the second biggest acquisition for

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Miami since they acquired Sheck from the Lakers. And you say, well, John,

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what about Lebron? Where does Heat rank if you if

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you think this is the second biggest acquisition for the

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Heats franchise history. While we'll keep this in mind, they're getting, uh,

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you know, Giannis who has a ring. You know, when

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they signed Lebron, he didn't have a ring, and there

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was already a pretty decent supporting cast there. So Miami

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gave up a lot for him. So the cupboard is

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not as full as when Lebron went to Miami. But

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it's gonna be interesting to see. You know, he does

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have that championship pedigree. I know things in Milwaukee have

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went south, no pun intended, So now he heads south

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from Milwaukee as they tried to rebuild with some of

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the stuff that they got from Miami and players and

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also in draft picks. All right, let's talk about cards.

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The biggest show in Northeast history. It's being billed at

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billed as July June twenty sixth and twenty eighth, so

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it's already happened at the time of this recording. But

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let's talk about it. Marlborough, Marlborough, Massachusetts, A thousand tables

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and fifty audis Graph guests, and that's that's kind of

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getting into national territory. Not exactly but pretty close. So

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congrats to those that have put her on. The show

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was over, but hopefully it went well for everybody involved.

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All right, let's talk about another sports story. I lied,

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I said, we'll get into hobby hobby, but the World

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Cup ongoing obviously if you follow it. The United States

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team we'll make it into the knockout round and out

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of the group stage. They do have another game before

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the knockout round. They're two and oh and I believe

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I'm not sure they play next. I think I heard England.

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I don't know if that's true, but they're two and

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oh and doing doing pretty well obviously on North American

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soil with games here in the States, Canada and Mexico,

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and so it's nice to see, right and especially when

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it's kind of your home championship, if you will. Now,

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I don't think anyone expects them to hold up the cup.

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But the fact that they're they're you know, doing well

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and moving out of the group and the one the group.

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I think that's exciting for US citizens and I think

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it's exciting for US soccer fans. So be remess. We

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have some soccer products coming out almost every day from

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different companies. So if you are a soccer fan who

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likes the rip packs, especially this time of year, there's

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no shortage of those products, all right. Venture firm seven

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seven six, which is led by Alex o'hannian, has been

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of Serena Williams, but you know a name in his

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own right. They have purchased on it who makes college cards,

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formed in twenty twenty two, so they're going to go

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head to head with Panini with these naal type releases

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on it's actually done well in recent years in a

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quiet in a quiet way, but there are no slouch

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when it comes to the producing college cards. And you know,

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o'hannian has stated that they are the number one manufacturers

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of female athletes on cards for the hobby, so that

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will continue. And he's tabbed Evan Parker alumnus of this

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very show as his CEO coming from Mantle, which is

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also Ohannians one of Ohanian's ventures as well. So Evan

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Parker new CEO on it and an o'hannian ladventure firm

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now the new owner.

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On it.

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So congrats to all involved there. Cops has unveiled their

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new rookie basketball logo. I'll check it out online. Obviously,

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this is an audio podcast, so I can't show it

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to you per se, but it's readily available for your

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browsing pleasure.

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I like it.

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I think it's very cool looking, well done. Got to

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give credit where it's credits due. And again we're seeing,

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you know, Cops rookie logos on basketball products once again.

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And we'll finish up with Steve Grad formerly of PSA

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and now formerly of Beckett. He is venturing out. He

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is very experienced and very knowledgeable, does his own YouTube

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channel and knows his stuff. Then he has been doing

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this for a long time. Well now he has his

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own company full time, so you can get your autographs,

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authenticated opinions. He can be a witness at a signing

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event and also a consultant. So Steve Grad, if you

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google that, I'm sure his website will come up. But

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we're going to reach out to to see we get

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him on sportscardination. So with that being said, that is

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the news. And now all right, let's delve back into

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the world of grading. And we've done plenty of shows

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on grading, but it's been a while, so let's a

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lot of things have changed, uh since we really have

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done a hobby quick hits on grading exclusively. Obviously, most

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know PSA has a acquired SGC and now Beckett. Many

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people are not fond of that. Many people some people

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want the Federal Trade Commission getting involved in calling it

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a monopoly. We have recently learned that the PSA has

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stopped many of their cheaper bulk levels. They've increased their

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turnaround time. And the cheapest level, I believe is the

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value level, and that's an eighty around eighty dollars card.

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So it's going to be right now more expensive to

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send a card to PSA. They are talking about this

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will be a four month thing and then they'll revisit it.

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They are in a you know, eight figure card backlog,

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and that's a lot of car to have in a

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facility or facility and be responsible for. So obviously is

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why the turnaround times are so bad, so they're trying

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to catch up. And you know, degrading card industry is

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not like other industries. You know, like a restaurant gets busy,

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you hire more staff, you build an addition onto the restaurant.

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Not saying that grading companies don't do either or don't

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do both, but they also try to stem the flow

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of cards so that they can catch up on the

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backlog as well. So that's what PSA is doing. Many

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had predicted that SGC would not exist at this time

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any longer with the acquisition. That has proven to be false.

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Now you know they are not obviously the same company

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pre acquisition, post acquisition right and full transparency. Many might know,

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but some may not. I am a folk suburb for

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SGC and still do it. I think I'm my third

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year of doing it. I actually enjoy doing it, and

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I expected a decrease in submissions after the acquisition, and

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that has happened, truth be told, but not on the

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level that I thought. I am still getting quite the

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hall in cards being handed to me for SG grading,

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and I'm appreciative and thankful of that. Still love the brand.

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I know it's not their standalone company, anymore. I get

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all the logistics, and their turnaround time has gone from

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at one point ACTUALLYC was ten to twelve days, it's

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now sixty to eighty. And you know you still got

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your CGC has made strides. Beckett now owned by the

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Collector's Holdings, the parent company of PSA as well, and

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they have a new label with that acquisition. So a

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lot of things going on in a grading, So let's

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let's tack let's tackle some topics here. You know, do

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I think you know PSA is too powerful? They were

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already pretty powerful. They were the number one greater even

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pre acquisition of the other two grading Do I think

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they have a monopoly? No, not in the truest sense

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of the word. But I also don't think it's maybe

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a great idea that they own SGC and Beckett. But

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I will say this, I am glad that a card

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manufacturer i e. Tops, Slash, Fanatics or Panini don't own

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a grading company at the time of this recording, and

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I hope it never happens. I believe that's a conflict

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of interest. I've said that many many times, and I

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always will feel and say that I hope that day

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never come. Then I don't care if that day comes.

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I would never do business with that grading company. So

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fanatics about PSA or SGC or whatever grading company you

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want to say. That would be my end of my

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relationship with that grading company if I had one to

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begin with. But that would be the end there. You

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know a lot of people talking about the consistency of

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the grades, right, Remember these are humans that are grading

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these cards, and it's subjective, right. We've heard the stories

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of people cracking and resubmitting and get a different grade.

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We've even heard stories where someone's cracked and resubmitted and

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a card that didn't get a grade the first time,

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like minimum size not matter, something along those lines, got

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a grade the second time. So again, a lot of

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it's subjective. You know, people mentioned like they want all

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AI grading, much like TAG does. I don't mind a

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little AI in my grading. I just don't want all

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AI in migrating.

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I really don't.

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I like the fact that a fellow human being, you know,

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picks that card up with gloves on and examines it,

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puts it on a magnification, and then gives his or

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her assessment. I don't want to lose that much. The

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same like as a baseball fan. Right, we have the

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ABS system now they can kind of overrule the or

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confirm the umpire's called. But I don't want to not

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see an umpire behind the plate. I don't want all AI.

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I believe there's a purpose for it. You know, AI

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has been used. It's not a new thing to grading.

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You know, when you send your cards tough grading company,

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most of them use AI and the intake on up.

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You know, when they're submitted and putting them into the system.

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They are scanned in and you know, a bar code

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is given to each card with the identification of the car.

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So I have no problem with that. I'm not even

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completely opposed to like an initial AI grade with you know,

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the human also giving it a grade or vice versa, right,

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initially graded by human and then the AI sort of

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sort of like we're seeing with the ABS in baseball,

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where the you know, the computer kind of checks the

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work of the human. I'm not opposed to that, but

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I don't want one hundred percent AI. And that's nothing

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that I haven't said prior.

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I've heard.

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You know what, John, these these companies have quotas. You know,

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they're not giving out nine's on Griffy eighty nine upper

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decks anymore because they they want, you know, what's out

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there to stay out there. They don't want to add

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to the population. I'm not a buyer. I'm not a

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believer and buyer of that theory. And I've spoken a

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few graders off the record who do not want their

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names mentioned, and I've asked them that you know, you've

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ever given a mandate that don't grade one higher than

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this or this card higher than that, And not one

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of them has said off the record that that's the case.

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And I really don't think there is. I think they

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can sometimes feel like there is, but I maybe I'm

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being optimistic, and I hope not. But I really do

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think that you know, they're not doing but they're not

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being told be very careful. I think they're being told

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to be very careful, careful, you know, make sure you

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know the grade is the grade what you're giving it.

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If you're not sure, get a second opinion, if you will,

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a lot of people like the point fingers and point blame, right,

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that's what we do as folks, and you know grading

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is no different, and so a lot of people are

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blaming other people for why turnaround times are so long,

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and one of the things people point to is the

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ultra modern. Right, people are sending two dollars cards, three

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dollar cards, four dollar cards, five dollars. You know, you're

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lesser valued cards to get graded, obviously with hopes of

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getting the ten as obviously a ten would significantly raise

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the value of said cards. And you know, I get that,

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and but a lot of people are saying, like, you

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shouldn't be sending those. That's causing the backlog. That's why

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I can't get my cards in a reasonable fashion. And

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here's my answer to that. Right, this is America. If

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you know Jill or Jack want to send in you

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know they're Scott Rowland, you know, two thousand and five

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card that's you know, a quarter or fifty cents. Then

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that's their business. You might not like it, give you

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adjuta or make you mad, but they they're paying the freight, right,

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they're paying their twenty bucks or more or whatever cost

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the grade that card. Maybe it's a sentimental card, like

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who are we to tell other people what you can

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or cannot send?

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Right?

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The grading companies are trying to not so much what

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cards to send, but they're trying to sort of do

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that with their pricing structure. Right, So right now, at

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the minimum level you can send a car to PSA

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at is eighty dollars, And so you're gonna pay eighty

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dollars no matter what card you said. It could be

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a Babe Ruth card, or it could be a Jose Kendo,

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whatever one, it's eighty dollars, right, And so now that

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person who has a sentimental Scott rolling card has got

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to decide do I now want to pay eighty dollars

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for that? But if they do, who are we to

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say you're the problem or you're what's making this backloger,

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You're what's causing this delay in my cards getting back

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in a timely fashion. I think we got to stop

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blaming other people. And just that's just the way it is.

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If someone wants to pluck down their hard earned money

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to get whatever card graded, whatever card, that's that's their business.

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A lou geig you know, Goudy or lou gereg Conlin collection, right,

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that's that person prerogative. And so you know, I'm not

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going to be that guy. Do I wish to turn

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around times we're more reasonable, no doubt, No doubt I would,

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So I understand. I understand some of the animosity, but

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we were not really pointing it in the right direction.

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Junk wax, junk slab error. Right, that's being because of

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a lot of the lesser value card. You can we

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can label things how we want, right, Labels aren't always

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always accurate, right, It's maybe we just call this the

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grading error. Just more cards are being submitted for grading

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than ever before. I don't like necessarily the junk slab

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error term, but people have come up with and are

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saying that's what we're in.

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So that's you.

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That's your prerogative to use labels, and I try not to.

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I might ask coming in the hobby like that's affiliated

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with grading, like what do you call it?

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Or what would you agree?

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Is it the junk slab era, junk slab eraror let

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them answer that question. But for me, we're just in

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the era where the more cards are getting graded or

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submitted for graded than ever before.

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You know, there's the old.

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Saying, right, buy the card, not the slab. I do

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believe that, right. I have a Jackie Robinson leaf Rookie.

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I have a few friends of mine that have the

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same card, and in a couple of cases, their card

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is slightly graded higher, and quite frankly, I like my

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card better to the I appeal than they, even their

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half point or full point graded higher Carding.

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Mind, I wouldn't trade my card for their card.

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It's still listen, Jackie Robinson, Rookie is a beautiful card.

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I don't care really what shape it is, right, but right,

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you buy the card, right, any I'm a dealer. Anytime

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I sell a graded card off of my table, whether

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it's in a box loose on my table or in

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a lock showcase and has to be asked to be

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purchased or looked at, every buyer potential.

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Buyer is looking at the car.

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Even though as a grade could have a ten grade

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on it or a ninth grade on it. People are

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still going to look at the card as you should. Right,

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you are buying the card. It is encapsulated in a

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piece of plastic. You should not be necessarily buy any plastic.

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Right.

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We've all seen some tens that, like, let's be real,

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shouldn't be tens. They're not tens, but they got graded

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a ten.

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Right.

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We've all seen nines that when we look at them,

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I don't see anything wrong with this. I even looked

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at it magnification. I don't know why this wasn't a ten. Right,

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So that works both ways. That's that's a two way street.

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So you should always buy the card first. Yes, the

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slabs important, Yes, the company, that grade is important. Yes,

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the grade on the card is a huge factor. I

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am not sweeping those factors under the rug. But you know,

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at the end of the day, you're buying that card, right,

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And that's what I do. Even when I go here,

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We're going to go to the National here in about

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a month a little over in a month, Right, I'm

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going to buy some graded cards, no doubt. And I'm

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going to look at any graded card I buy. I'm

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not just gonna say I'm taking that or I'm you know,

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I'm more likely say I'm interested in that. Can I

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take a look at it, right, And I'm going to

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look at that card even more closely in hand, even

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though I've seen it in the case, and so should you.

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