Nov. 3, 2025

The Future of SGC?? Hobby Quick Hits E215

The Future of SGC?? Hobby Quick Hits E215

As we head towards the end of 2025 I weigh back in on what the future may hold for SGC and some observations I've made from the trenches.  


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Probby not Quick Hits, delivering that breaking hobby news direct

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your earloaders, you want to know those Josh Hard shop shop,

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You've got your cover up. Your host John new Name. Hello, everyone,

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and welcome to another edition of Hobby Quick Hits. And

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on today's episode, we're going back to the well again

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to weigh in on STC. And I don't always like

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to go back to a topic as quick as I

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am on this one, but in this case, I think

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it's warranted some new stuff for those that don't know,

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I may folk suburb kind of want to weigh in

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what I'm seeing on that level. I just had Ryan

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Zazyinski of Gemory on Sports Cardination and he wighed in

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with some of his insights and opinions. So with all

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that being said, I wanted to kind of delve in

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on this again on this episode if you will revisit

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the topic of SGC. So that is what is on

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tap for today. We're going to take a quick break,

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but we'll be right back with the release schedules to

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some of the hobby news and then we'll tackle what's

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going on with SGC.

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Okay, now, a quick word from our great sponsor followed

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release calendar for the next couple weeks. Let's start with

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November fifth, twenty twenty five. Leaf Vivid Hobby, Baseball, Rugglers

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and jumbos ain't on the same day, twenty twenty five

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ONYX Vintage Extended Series Baseball Megas twenty twenty five, Panini

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Certified Football twenty twenty five, Panini PFL Combat Anthology. Also

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on the fifth, twenty twenty four Pulse Luman Baseball heat Seekers. Addition,

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also on the fifth Big Big Day on the fifth

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here twenty twenty five, Slash twenty six uppert X Series

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one Hockey Blasters and Tens. Let's go to the sixth,

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twenty twenty five twenty six tops Basketball Megas. Also let's

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go to the seventh twenty twenty five ONYX Vintage Extended

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Series Baseball November seventh, Pokemon Mega Lucario ex Figure All

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the seventh less I say Otherwise twenty twenty five, Beaumachrome

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University Football Megas twenty twenty five, Panini Mosaic Football twenty

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twenty four, Slash twenty five, Panini Noir Soccer twenty twenty

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five tops UFC Finest, And we go to the eleventh

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twenty twenty five Post Meridian Football Heat Seeker edition on

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the November twelve, twenty twenty five Panini Absolute Football Kaboom

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Countdown Calendar twenty twenty five Panini Phoenix Football staying on

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the twelve, twenty twenty five Tops Pro Debut, Baseball twenty

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twenty five Tops Update Series, Baseball, Hobby and Jumbos also

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on the twelve. Finishing out that day, Skybox Metal Universe,

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Batman from Upper Deck. Let's go to the thirteenth, twenty

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twenty five Pulse All Star Baseball moving to the fourteenth

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Pokemon Mega Charbizard x ex Ultra Premium collection. Also Pokemon

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Mega Evolution Fantasmal Flames all different variations. There also Pokemon

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twenty twenty five Trainer's tool Kit, Mega Battle Deck, Mega

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Ganguard Deonce Ex. Don't ask me what does mean. I

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am just reading off a release sheet. With that being said,

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that's your next two weeks in hobby products. As I

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always say, choose your weapon. Happy ripping.

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Let's go round the hobby verse and catch up on

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this week's hobby news.

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And find out.

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All right.

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I want to start out with an item that's going

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to collect auction. It's actually started. It will end on

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November sixth. I'm surprised this store this item is not

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getting more buzz than it actually is. It's a nineteen

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fifty one Bowman uncut sheet four rolls of nine players each,

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so thirty six cards total. There are seventy two cards

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that make up the High Number series. This is half

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of them at thirty six and one of the cards

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on there is card you might have heard before, nineteen

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fifty one Bowman Mickey Mantel the Rookie car. It's on

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the edge panel but surprisingly in very good shape, good color,

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the backs are clean, got a small hairline crease in it,

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and just an iconic card, uncut form. Again. The bidding

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started at ten k it's obviously going to go more

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than that. It will end on November sixth, and just

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to me an incredible piece and the only one. I

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believe it's the only one in existence, you know, if

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I'm not mistaken. So really cool there to check that out.

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Oh I don't believe it.

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All right. TOPS is back in the basketball game officially

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with the license scene going over to them, and they

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wasted no time creating the NBA Living set. We're all

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familiar with the baseball addition. It now exists in basketball

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one card a week, print to order. It's got the

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design of the nineteen fifty seven fifty eight TOPS original

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design and card number one Lebron James not my favorite player,

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but it is what it is, and we can't really

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be surprised that they're doing this. They're going to cash

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in on this license all they can. Speaking of cool

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items hitting the auction block, this auction will open eleven

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twenty one, November twenty first, and close between December twelfth

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and December fourteenth. What is it? It's the a ticket

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stub graded PSA one point five from the Yankees game

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on July fourth, nineteen thirty nine. What's the significance of

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that game? The luckiest man in the world speech given

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by Lou Garrick when he was diagnosed with ALS. Only

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nine of these exist and only four are graded higher.

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So when it comes to ticket stubs, this is a

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pretty cool item if you ask me, whatnot getting paid?

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They just announced they have a new two and twenty

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five million dollar fund that was invested in them from

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various brokerage brokerages and since twenty nineteen. This marks the

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nine hundred and sixty eight million dollars that they have

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had invested in their company. You know, we hear a

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lot about these, you know, fund sources and brokerage places

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investing in some of these hobby juggernauts, if you will,

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I just wonder like, are they getting you know, bang

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for their buck or can there be some losses here

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which may prevent future funding or even seeing some of

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these entities, you know, going out of business potentially when

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money dries up. Don't know, just just throwing down my

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speculation hat there. Panini, who's CEO, longtime CEO although Celestro

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passed away a few months back on Italian newspapers reporting

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that they probably will be on the market and that

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Top Slash Fanatics will be one of the first in

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line to try to make that purchase. The sale just

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not necessarily the tops, but Panini is expected to be

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sold and finalized by mid twenty twenty six, according to

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this an Italian newspaper. So if Top slash Fanatics was

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to acquire Panini, you know, again, just strength more of

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a stranglehold of the hobby that they would have. That's

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my thoughts there, all right. We don't often hear, you know,

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mann card manufacturers, presidents or ceo sort of way in

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on the state of the hobby, at least candidly as

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usually always you know, Roses and daisies when they talk

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about the hobby, but this time not so much, which

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I found a little refreshing. What am I talking about?

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Upper Deck president Jason Mashera on his LinkedIn page put

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a little bit of a dissertation of the hobby, a

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statement out on the kind of the state of the

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union of the hobby. I'm paraphrasing some of his points.

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You can seek out his actual statement, but he pointed

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out that fifty percent of the transactions of the hobby

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come from only ten percent of the hobby, meaning it's

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controlled by the bigger whales. I don't think that's breaking news,

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but he really is concerned that, you know, if that

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money goes elsewhere, you know, it could affect the hobby

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in a negative sort of way, and that it's it's

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sort of the the power brokers kind of setting the

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tone again. Nothing I don't think we didn't really know,

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but you know, he just he's concerned about it. He's

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also concerned about the gambling aspect and gambling effect of

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the hobby and you know what that could mean long

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term and on the younger set. And he pointed also

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to the point of wax that's you know, most products

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now seem to be according to him, you know, four

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figures or more and people being priced out, not just

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in wax, but just in in general. And so, you know,

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he cares about the hobby. He's concerned about it. It's

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refreshing to see a person of his stature sort of

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talk about the stuff that's not all that smells pretty

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and shiny, right and good. So I applaud him for that.

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I know he's taking some criticism because some people have

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pointed out that, you know, upper Deck has some very

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expensive products that price people out, so he's getting kind

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of labeled sort of a hypocrite, you know, but I

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don't think. I don't really, I don't see it exactly

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like that. I mean, we're all entitled to our opinion, right,

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and there are some great, more affordable upper Deck products,

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plenty of them, so I get it. You know, someone

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else commented that he's just bitter because he lost because

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upper Deck lost the other sport license, and he's just

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you know, sour grapes. I can't speak for Jason. Maybe

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that's what it is, Maybe it isn't, maybe that's his

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true feelings. So I'll just end on this. It was

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just nice to see, you know, someone really kind of

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weigh in someone from that position, right, kind of just

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weigh in again, most of the stuff is not breaking news.

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Most of the stuff is stuff we realize or should realize.

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But it's nice to hear it come from that sort

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of level instead of always just you know, how awesome

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the hobby always is and there's nothing wrong whatsoever. So

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I'll close on that. In a June episode of this

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very podcast, Hobby Quick Hits, I weighed in and kind

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of where SGC was at, what maybe the future may hold,

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kind of stemming from a lot of people, a lot

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of content creators and influencers, you know, claiming that the

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end was near and that they would soon be killed

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off by collectors and you know at the time didn't

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see it that way and kind of wanted to sort

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of counterpoint counterpoint that. So I did a SGC stated

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the union sort of episode and I don't know, again,

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I don't often go back and sort of rehash stuff,

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at least this soon. Right. That was again in June,

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and here we are about the beginning of November and

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you know, five months later, but some things have changed,

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and wanted to sort of revisit it, update it if

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you will. Now if you're asking me today, do I

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think SGC is going to be closed by collectors. I'm

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still going to say no, but I will say this

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to be one hundred percent honest and transparent. I don't

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feel as confident about that as I did in June.

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I don't expect it still. I'm not predicting that I

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wouldn't bet on it, but I feel less confident that

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it wouldn't happen today than I did in June. And again,

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you know, i'll rehash I love the brand, I love

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the company. They're a sponsor of Sports Carnation, but that

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has nothing to do with my feelings about them. I

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was a user of their product, you know, before they

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were even a sponsor. And I'm a bulk suburb currently,

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and I you know, even though they got rid of

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the bulk subbing rates, I continue to do the bulk subbing,

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just adjusting my prices. So let's let's look at it

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from that angle. So, you know, I expected a decrease

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in the amount of subs I got with the new

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pricing structure. Anytime you raise prices, right, you should probably

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expect lesser volume. Solda, I'm sure there are exceptions to

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that rule. And that was that's been exactly the case.

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But I will say this, my projections for how much

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less I would get submitted to me as a SGC

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bolk suburb I overestimated. Yes, subs are down, but not

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by any stretch of imagination what I kind of forecasted.

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I'm still getting I got my I just recently got

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my fourth largest sub you know, even with the new price,

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even without the new pricing, but just across the board

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since I started bulk subbing over two years ago, so

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I'm still getting large submissions. I just posted on my

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will be posted publicly before they will be posted as

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raw cards before I get them back. I am not

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going to post degraded cards, but I will post the

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So numbers are still pleasantly good. I was, honestly, and

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I think I might have said that on the June episode.

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I was concerned that the numbers would dwindle to a

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point that I'd have to stop, folks of me, not

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because I wanted to stop, but because the volume wouldn't

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be There would be a decision that I didn't make,

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but would be made for me. And again when I

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called people and email people telling them of what happened

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the new rates, I got just so many calls, text

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and emails of support, you know, saying, hey, I'm still

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subbing with you. The convenience is worth a buck or

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two more, you know, in in pricing. I'm not worried

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about it. You know. Also keep in mind with folk subbing,

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whatever the rate is right, anyone that subs on their

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own right. And this isn't just an SGC thing, but

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when you when you sub with a grading company, you know,

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especially the bigger ones, you need to really expect between

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a forty five dollars and sixty dollars shipping bill both

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ways combined, right, probably about twenty five going to that

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grading company at about thirty five forty that you're gonna

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have to pay for shipping, if not more coming back.

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Add those together and you're looking at fifty to seventy

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five Bucks just in shipping charges before you even pay

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for your first graded card. So for many of these folks,

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you know, it's still cheaper to you whose my BOLK

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sub service, even with the adjusted pricing, And many of

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them pointed to that reason. And again, I'm handling all

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the packaging, shipping, insurance, dealing with it right, sorting it out,

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entering it in on the system. They don't have to

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do any of that. They literally just fill out a

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sheet of paper, a form SGC sub form that I

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created for what I do. They fill that out with

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what they're subbing their info, name, address in, phone number,

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and email, and then hand me the cards right, and

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I take care of the rest. Now. I do not

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ship the cards back to them unless they pay twenty

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dollars which is signature confirmation ensured shipping. They're generally picked

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up at my house, at a Dunkin Donut, Starbucks, or

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at the numerous card shows that we have in the area.

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Most of the time they are picked up at the

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card shows itself. At the card shows, I'd say about

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seventy percent of my BOLK subs are given to me

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at the card show and then picked up and graded

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card form. When the gratings completed at a subsequent card show,

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and there's another thirty percent that may be dropped off locally,

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whether that be at Starbucks, dunkin Donuts, my house, and

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that sort of. So it's been surprisingly still good. You

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know that I wasn't confident that that was going to continue,

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but here we are, and for the record, we are.

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Our next sub will be sub number thirty nine, and

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they're generally one to two a month, So using that

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thirty nine number, you can tell sort of how long

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I've sort of been doing it. Recently, Ryan Staczynski of

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jem Ery was on Sports Carnation as a guest, actually

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the last couple. If you're listening to this on show

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release date, go check out his what he had to say.

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You know, he does a great job with the generate

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reports and newsletter and emails, but those give you data, right,

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it doesn't give you sort of his opinion. So I

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love having him on the podcast to get his opinion

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of what's going on in the grading world, and he doesn't.

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You know, he's a pretty laid back sort of guy,

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but he also gives his honest opinion and honest assessment.

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I really appreciate that from him and on you know,

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on those two episodes, I asked him, you know what

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he thought when he first heard the news that Collectors

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was acquired STC and whether he thinks, you know, SGC

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is going to be phased out by collectors. And again

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I don't want to give out the whole episodes and

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photo check it out, but he doesn't believe that the

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SGC is going to be closed by collectors. He thinks

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he's there. They're going to do what they've read he's

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sort of done and made him a smaller company, right

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and kind of you know that boutique word that Ryan

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Hosch used when he said they weren't closing. And so Ryan,

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when I asked Ryan, you know, do you think that

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you know, Ryan from gem Rate, do you do you

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think that SGC is going away? He says he obviously

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doesn't know, he doesn't have any insider info, but in

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his opinion, he doesn't believe that's going to happen. He

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thinks they're going to be sort of that boutique, whether

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it be heavy vintage or pre war that sort of thing.

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He thinks that there remain viable like what we're seeing

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sort of going on currently he think that was he's

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he believes that was the plan all along. What we're

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seeing now, you know. He pointed out to you know,

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what a cost to purchase this company, you know, kind

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of the closet wouldn't make a ton of sense. But

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he also said, you know that it wouldn't be the

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first time something like that happened either. Again, he doesn't

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have any working knowledge, he's not getting any info from

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the powers that be, you know. He also pointed out

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another thing that some of us know, right that one

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of the one of the reasons for the acquisition, right

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was to uh, you know, acquire some of that manpower.

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Some of that SGC workforce, including graters, have went over

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to the PSA side, and that's what happens with acquisitions,

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and so now PSA has poached some of those probably

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top of the line SDC graders and that was probably

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part of the whole plan to begin with, and not

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just graters, but office staff and corporate people at the

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corporate level uh as well. Uh you know, so that

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was one of, you know, probably the reasons for the acquisitions.

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Let's talk about you know, people who point out to well,

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PSA is moving into existing SDC locations and setting up

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shop there. That signifies that the end is near, and

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they may be right again, I don't know, Ryan Sezinski

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doesn't know, But let let's take you know, there's two

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sides every coin. So for all those folks saying, well,

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that's the sign that they're going to phase SGC out,

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they're just going to their locations, they're going to phase

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SDC out, and then they're just going to be one

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hundred percent PSA locations rather than fifty to fifty sixty forty.

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But there's again the other side of that coin, right, Well,

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they can just be you know, cutting out overhead. Right,

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if you have two companies but you're under one roof,

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paying one rent or one building costs to build, right,

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you're consolidating costs. That's just sort of smart business practice.

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So for me, I don't look at it as a

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red flag that the end is near. I look at

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it as they're just trying to you know, save some funds.

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If we're going to Florida, why don't we just share

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space with SGC who's already there, rather than just you know,

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pour a bunch of money into a new building or

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renting a new large facility, so I don't look at

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it like that. So, you know, kind of coming down

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the home stretch here to wrap sort of this episode

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up right, And I hope I'm right. I don't know

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I'm right, but I don't think SGC is going away,

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And from a selfish point of view, I hope they don't.

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I love the brand. They're my favorite grading company, and

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I hope they're, you know, around, you know long after

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I'm I'm not, and I hope that's the case. You know,

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one one more thing I want to touch on real quick.

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You know, I get asked to this question as a

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folk suburb. You know, if SGC was to be phased

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out and didn't don't exist anymore, Hey, you know, hey John,

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what will my cards in SGC slabs? What would happen

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to them? Would they go decrease in value and go

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down in price? And here's my two cents, any kind

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of price d decrease to me would be very minimum

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here to me, here's why, right, Even if SGC was

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to go away, they built up so much providence in

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twenty plus years of providing great grading. Many of the

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record setting cards you're seeing on the auction block are

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in SGC holders. That's you know, providence, but people know

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who SGC is, right, this is not a fly by

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night company that lasted two years and went away, you know,

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the HGA. So will there be a little hit if

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that was to happen, Sure, a little bit, but not

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to what some some are claiming or predicting, and especially

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on the vintage side, I think that's even less minimal.

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You know, I have a Jackie Robinson rookie and an

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SGC holder. If SGC went away, I'm not getting it

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taken out of that holder, and I don't expect the

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value to decrease at all if you know, or very

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much if it did so. Again, the card in the

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holders are still the cards and the holders. And when

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you have a brand with a reputation that SGC has,

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I think that any kind of hit would be of

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the minimal variety. But the only time will tell, and

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so we'll have to wait and see. What I wanted

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to kind of rehash, kind of tub you know, punch

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back in and kind of you know, revisit this topic.

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Any questions or thoughts, you know, you want to tell

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me I'm wrong or nuts, reach out to me. My

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door is always open. Thanks, everyone, will see you soon

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all right. Thank you for listening to another episode of

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